Who will win the november election in the U.S.? Trump or Hillary?

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I think under trump the US will weaken the sanctions against Russia, and more troubling is that Europe will end up being forced to lift certain sanctions also. Putin already believes he is untouchable and cares little for the welfare of his own people.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I think under trump the US will weaken the sanctions against Russia, and more troubling is that Europe will end up being forced to lift certain sanctions also. Putin already believes he is untouchable and cares little for the welfare of his own people.

    I think the sanctions against Russia has reminded Putin that he isn't intouchable. Russia has a lower GDP than Spain, and the sanctions has hit his country hard.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I agree but he is a man who cares little for his own people suffering due to those sanctions, economic sanctions are less effective against communist countries.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Yes Putin cares little about his own people and they highly approve him so far.

    The only way to weaken his reign is when things are getting worse and the approval rates for him and his gang sink.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I like to think of your modding style as an iron fist in silk tartan glove :)

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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    he's now just u turned on stepping back from his business interests, which he was doing to avoid conflict of interests, now that seems unimportant to him, can you really have a president making decisions who has vested business interests?

    I don't believe he ever said he was going to fully step back from his business interests. He said before he was going to put his children in charge, which isn't good enough.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Yes Putin cares little about his own people and they highly approve him so far.

    The only way to weaken his reign is when things are getting worse and the approval rates for him and his gang sink.

    "The Czar is good, but his governors are evil" said Russian farmers in the past. Putin has managed to pull off the same trick, but he must supply basic economic and social stability to remain in power.
    Chriscoop: today's Russia isn't communist. Putin uses communist symbols such as Stalin, but only as symbols of nationalism, power and stability.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    a common observation is that in countries with strong leaders, the normal people stand in line with their leader when things are getting bad. You just need to tell them that this is all the fault of the evil west etc.

    Just see how bad it is for people in North Korea and how propganda makes them love Fatty Kim.

    Things must get really really bad until they realise that their leader won't help them and they stand up against him.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    Yes Putin cares little about his own people and they highly approve him so far.

    The only way to weaken his reign is when things are getting worse and the approval rates for him and his gang sink.

    "The Czar is good, but his governors are evil" said Russian farmers in the past. Putin has managed to pull off the same trick, but he must supply basic economic and social stability to remain in power.
    Chriscoop: today's Russia isn't communist. Putin uses communist symbols such as Stalin, but only as symbols of nationalism, power and stability.
    Would you consider Russia a true democracy then 24? Maybe not in name but communism is alive and kicking in Russia, putin is now positioned as a dictator and has even bolstered and reorganised his security forces to quell any uprising by the populus
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent
    edited December 2016
    Russia is obviously not a democracy. The regime calls the system "controled/guided democracy." They go through the motions with elections, a parliament etc. While Russia isn't as authoritarian as the Soviets Union was, the country is clearly not a real democracy. Most of the press followed the government line and true oposition politicians live difficult and sometimes short lives. What you must remember is that there are more types of authoritarian regimes than communism. It's worth noteing that the current regime idealizes Stalin, but not Lenin. Stalin is used as a symbol of a strong and stabile Russia. Lenin on the other hand toppled the Czarist regime. This could give Russians wrong ideas, so Lenin is no hero to Putin.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent
    If you look at the economy, Russia isn't communist. They have a stock exchange, huge companies and many billionaires. There is a larger element of state control of the economy than current western economies, but it's still a form of capitalism. The display of wealth is even more vulgar than in the west. This is very different from the communist Soviet with total state control of the economy (other than the black market) and a pretence of social equality.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Now I have some questions for you, Cheld. Some new and some I have asked before:
    - Do you agree that what we know about Trump's policy towards Russia is to Putin's advantage?
    - Do you think Tillerson is suited to be the Secretery of State, given his very close political, personal and economic ties to the Putin regime?
    - You claimed sanctions have "a nasty habit"of turning into wars. Can you mention any examples of this, other than Imperial Japan 75 years ago?
    - Do you think the sanctions against Russia should be lifted, even as the illegal Russian intervention in Ukraine continues?

    Please reply to the questions, and not just post counterquestions. :)

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:

    Chirp * Chirp

    I had to Google that one :))
    Cheld might have better things to do tonight - give him some time.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
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  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Nov.19, 2018 New York City
    Citizens surround Trump Tower pleading for radiation pills as Trump walks out to announce cuts in them too to offset the rising cost of the Pan-Asian and Mexican/Brazillian Wars.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    [Duplicate Post 8-) . Deleted by Barbel, agreeing with Number24 below]
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent
    Believe it or not, I usually want interesting debates about politics when I'm on this thread. It might be smart not being confrontational now and then, Higgins.

    In this spirit I offer a conservative joke:
    A conservative representative was taking a leak at the parliament men's room. As a socialist representative enters, the conservative finishes quicly and zips up. "Why the hurry?" asked the socialist.
    "In my experience as soon as you socialists see something large, well functioning and private, you tax it." replied the conservative :))
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Not sure what is 'confrontional' with a reminder that replies are still open to your questions.

    I can safely say, that I had one or two more confrontional posts in the past :D
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent
    You have, but I have't seen Cheld anywhere in AJB007 since I asked my questions. Your taunting isn't helsing anyone, especially this discussion. Cheld can reply when he returns.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,819Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    Not sure what is 'confrontional'

    Yup, spotted that. I think we've all spotted that!
    Higgins wrote:
    I can safely say, that I had one or two more confrontional posts in the past :D

    Also true, even discounting 11,000 aimed at Asp9mm!
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    oh, I had hopes that those against that idiot Asp9mm would be significantly more than that :D

    Should I try harder? :v
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,819Chief of Staff
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :))
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    Not sure what is 'confrontional'

    Yup, spotted that. I think we've all spotted that!
    Higgins wrote:
    I can safely say, that I had one or two more confrontional posts in the past :D

    Also true, even discounting 11,000 aimed at Asp9mm!
    That's not confrontational, it's just a huge bromance
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Yeah, they're fooling no-one. :007)
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    That's not confrontational, it's just a huge bromance

    Not possible, he's too girlish for that :p
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I've said it before but...
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    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited December 2016
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    :))
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Trump's pal Putin is helping to destroy Aleppo. 400,000 dead, millions fleeing...
    Trump disgusts me. I've moved him from the dangerously stupid section into first class evil. X-(
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