With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?
With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?
Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?
Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
As much as I agree that most of Newman's Bond score's are lackluster, especially Spectre, which was one of the dullest most generic score's ive ever heard and rightfully deserves all the flak it gets. His Skyfall score though which didn't feature Adele's song was the highest selling Bond score in 27 years and nominated for an Oscar. So even as generic and Zimmer-inspired as it was it clearly made an impact with the general public. I cant and wont defend Spectre's score though, that score was absolute sh*t.
With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?
Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
As much as I agree that most of Newman's Bond score's are lackluster, especially Spectre, which was one of the dullest most generic score's ive ever heard and rightfully deserves all the flak it gets. His Skyfall score though which didn't feature Adele's song was the highest selling Bond score in 27 years and nominated for an Oscar. So even as generic and Zimmer-inspired as it was it clearly made an impact with the general public. I cant and wont defend Spectre's score though, that score was absolute sh*t.
Sales don't indicate quality, particularly when it comes to music. Justin Bieber is currently at the top of the charts. Film score quality is in such a sad state today that there aren't many good choices when it comes to Oscar nominations. The other four nominees that year were infinitely better than Skyfall's score.
I think the sales of Skyfall's score were a result of the overall success of the film and the related hype surrounding the 50th anniversary. It wasn't anything special. That said, I agree that Skyfall's score was much better than Spectre's.
Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
As much as I agree that most of Newman's Bond score's are lackluster, especially Spectre, which was one of the dullest most generic score's ive ever heard and rightfully deserves all the flak it gets. His Skyfall score though which didn't feature Adele's song was the highest selling Bond score in 27 years and nominated for an Oscar. So even as generic and Zimmer-inspired as it was it clearly made an impact with the general public. I cant and wont defend Spectre's score though, that score was absolute sh*t.
Sales don't indicate quality, particularly when it comes to music. Justin Bieber is currently at the top of the charts. Film score quality is in such a sad state today that there aren't many good choices when it comes to Oscar nominations. The other four nominees that year were infinitely better than Skyfall's score.
That's true, I just don't think Skyfall's score is as bad as some think it is at least in comparison to Spectre.
As much as I agree that most of Newman's Bond score's are lackluster, especially Spectre, which was one of the dullest most generic score's ive ever heard and rightfully deserves all the flak it gets. His Skyfall score though which didn't feature Adele's song was the highest selling Bond score in 27 years and nominated for an Oscar. So even as generic and Zimmer-inspired as it was it clearly made an impact with the general public. I cant and wont defend Spectre's score though, that score was absolute sh*t.
Sales don't indicate quality, particularly when it comes to music. Justin Bieber is currently at the top of the charts. Film score quality is in such a sad state today that there aren't many good choices when it comes to Oscar nominations. The other four nominees that year were infinitely better than Skyfall's score.
That's true, I just don't think Skyfall's score is as bad as some think it is at least in comparison to Spectre.
Well, I don't think Skyfall's score is much better than Spectre's.
As with most things Spectre we are reduced to defending the ' not too bad' Newman's input to the Bondiverse is lackluster at best. Bad music, very very bad, terrible music in fact. Possibly fake music, that's not what I'm saying but it's what I have heard...
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Since Newman will not be scoring Bond 25 I think Michael Giacchino is my dream candidate. His score for the original Medal of honor is one of my favorite scores of all time.
I think you mean you don't need any more of that Matt. I'd be more than happy with Zimmer getting the nod for Bond 25. In fact I found his treatment of films such as Tarantino's "True Romance" to be anything other than generic.
Maybe you just need a better stereo system
With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?
Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
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No to Newman or Zimmer. Both have tainted their films with their blandness. Give me a classic John Barry/ John Williams/ Jerry Goldsmith type score any day. I'm tired of all the samey generic crap tainting cinema today.
For Bond 25 I want a Bond score like Tomorrow Never Dies. Something that celebrates the Bond theme and uses it to it's maximum potential instead of building it up to nothing then saving the whole theme for the end credits. I'm sick of it! It's a Bond movie! Use the freaking theme! X-(
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I love the story of how to get relaxed to hit the last high note in GF.
She went behind the sound screen , and the next thing her bra comes
Over the top !
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No to Newman or Zimmer. Both have tainted their films with their blandness. Give me a classic John Barry/ John Williams/ Jerry Goldsmith type score any day. I'm tired of all the samey generic crap tainting cinema today.
For Bond 25 I want a Bond score like Tomorrow Never Dies. Something that celebrates the Bond theme and uses it to it's maximum potential instead of building it up to nothing then saving the whole theme for the end credits. I'm sick of it! It's a Bond movie! Use the freaking theme! X-(
100% agree! The incidental music should make reference to the main theme. That main theme should be a very good song and one that can be sewn into the fabric of the whole soundtrack. It's part of each film's individual identity. Newman's scores are well below the standard a Bond film deserves.
David Arnold or ...Ramin Djawadi, he's score in the TV show Person of Interest really proved to outstanding in my opinion. I'm really curious to see how he'd implement Bond sounds. But I guess it's just a dream
No to Newman or Zimmer. Both have tainted their films with their blandness. Give me a classic John Barry/ John Williams/ Jerry Goldsmith type score any day. I'm tired of all the samey generic crap tainting cinema today.
For Bond 25 I want a Bond score like Tomorrow Never Dies. Something that celebrates the Bond theme and uses it to it's maximum potential instead of building it up to nothing then saving the whole theme for the end credits. I'm sick of it! It's a Bond movie! Use the freaking theme! X-(
100% agree! The incidental music should make reference to the main theme. That main theme should be a very good song and one that can be sewn into the fabric of the whole soundtrack. It's part of each film's individual identity. Newman's scores are well below the standard a Bond film deserves.
the main theme is referenced atleast once in both SF and SP's scores, But I agree that it should be referenced more often like the Connery films.
100% agree! The incidental music should make reference to the main theme. That main theme should be a very good song and one that can be sewn into the fabric of the whole soundtrack. It's part of each film's individual identity. Newman's scores are well below the standard a Bond film deserves.
CR is a great example of this. YKMN is ingrained in half the score and it is done beautifully.
No to Newman or Zimmer. Both have tainted their films with their blandness. Give me a classic John Barry/ John Williams/ Jerry Goldsmith type score any day. I'm tired of all the samey generic crap tainting cinema today.
For Bond 25 I want a Bond score like Tomorrow Never Dies. Something that celebrates the Bond theme and uses it to it's maximum potential instead of building it up to nothing then saving the whole theme for the end credits. I'm sick of it! It's a Bond movie! Use the freaking theme! X-(
100% agree! The incidental music should make reference to the main theme. That main theme should be a very good song and one that can be sewn into the fabric of the whole soundtrack. It's part of each film's individual identity. Newman's scores are well below the standard a Bond film deserves.
the main theme is referenced atleast once in both SF and SP's scores, But I agree that it should be referenced more often like the Connery films.
None of the Connery films reference the theme in the score. It's not about referencing the theme, it's about integrating the main theme and developing a score starting from the theme. Almost the entire Goldfinger score is the Goldfinger theme. It helps when there are alternate themes to work from, though the way Barry wrote scores was simply a way of writing the most meaningful music he could for the purpose of each film.
I don't really mind if the "Title theme" of the film is underused but lately I feel the Bond theme has been sorely underused to the point it's barely in the films anymore. It just maddens me. I can understand the lack of it in Casino Royale as Bond was earning it but from Quantum of Solace on, it's been sorely missed. I can't wait until this Bond theme blackout is lifted so the theme can be used to great usage again.
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"You forgot the first rule of Mass Media Elliot! Give the people what they want!!!"
"I never miss..."
"Time to face gravity!"
Don't tell me you think that You Only Live Twice's theme was underused?
Mountains and Sunsets?
James Bond in Japan?
I mean, you must've heard of Aki, Tiger and Osato!
Don't tell me you think that You Only Live Twice's theme was underused?
Mountains and Sunsets?
James Bond in Japan?
I mean, you must've heard of Aki, Tiger and Osato!
Read my entire post, not just the first sentence that was quoted.
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With Christopher Nolan's company Syncopy initially being listed by IMDb as having Bond 25 as a current project (that listing has since been removed - perhaps a mistake or perhaps part of the Broccoli/Wilson secretive way of doing business), rumours have been rife that Nolan may be in line for directing the next Bond film (GREAT news in my opinion)...
Now if that turns out to be the case, why are we not discussing Oscar winner and all-round fantastic bloke Hanz Zimmer for the music score?
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/05/christopher-nolan-directing-bond-25-1201812534/
Oscar Wilde
Zimmer's name has already been thrown around in this thread. I'm not the only one here who things Hans Zimmer would be a terrible fit for Bond, not least because Bond doesn't need generic-sounding action music. Thomas Newman clearly looked to Zimmer for his action music in his two Bond films, and we don't need any more of that!
Sales don't indicate quality, particularly when it comes to music. Justin Bieber is currently at the top of the charts. Film score quality is in such a sad state today that there aren't many good choices when it comes to Oscar nominations. The other four nominees that year were infinitely better than Skyfall's score.
Well, I don't think Skyfall's score is much better than Spectre's.
Maybe you just need a better stereo system
Oscar Wilde
For Bond 25 I want a Bond score like Tomorrow Never Dies. Something that celebrates the Bond theme and uses it to it's maximum potential instead of building it up to nothing then saving the whole theme for the end credits. I'm sick of it! It's a Bond movie! Use the freaking theme! X-(
"You forgot the first rule of Mass Media Elliot! Give the people what they want!!!"
"I never miss..."
"Time to face gravity!"
And Bond! {[]
"You forgot the first rule of Mass Media Elliot! Give the people what they want!!!"
"I never miss..."
"Time to face gravity!"
I love the story of how to get relaxed to hit the last high note in GF.
She went behind the sound screen , and the next thing her bra comes
Over the top !
You'd tend to think she'd be nailed on for Bond25...
100% agree! The incidental music should make reference to the main theme. That main theme should be a very good song and one that can be sewn into the fabric of the whole soundtrack. It's part of each film's individual identity. Newman's scores are well below the standard a Bond film deserves.
CR is a great example of this. YKMN is ingrained in half the score and it is done beautifully.
None of the Connery films reference the theme in the score. It's not about referencing the theme, it's about integrating the main theme and developing a score starting from the theme. Almost the entire Goldfinger score is the Goldfinger theme. It helps when there are alternate themes to work from, though the way Barry wrote scores was simply a way of writing the most meaningful music he could for the purpose of each film.
Matt, do you mean the "James Bond Theme" or the individual film's theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVaI8uf4gjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHl6WQCb5S8
I mean the films' themes.
"You forgot the first rule of Mass Media Elliot! Give the people what they want!!!"
"I never miss..."
"Time to face gravity!"
Mountains and Sunsets?
James Bond in Japan?
I mean, you must've heard of Aki, Tiger and Osato!
Read my entire post, not just the first sentence that was quoted.