It will all soon be just a bad dream. Parliament won't
Let us leave. or .... 2nd referendum , either way......
We ain't going anywhere baby !
Alas I sadly think you are right TP. Clearly 17.4M votes in a referendum mean nothing to these self-serving clowns. Not entirely sure if I will ever bring myself to vote again, as it's meaningless.
Well according to the remain side, like David Cameron, Nick Clegg
etc. Voting to leave meant leaving EVERTHING ! " so be very sure
How you vote " .
So it was made very clear to us, we were told leaving could even
Lead to WW3 ( that's an actual David Cameron statement ). Only
After the vote and the undemocratic Remainers got involved did all
These problems become so important. Up until then according to
The remain side to vote leave meant voting to leave all aspects of the
EU. All very simple.
Parliament never wanted to leave, ( hence why all the pantomime and
Drama , leading to us eventually...... not leaving at all ) )
The only good thing for me is that I did predict this outcome ( even better than Uri ) I can laugh as in years to come , people complain about the EU and their rules, as the percentage of people voting drops lower and lower, with most likely the rise of right wing political parties.
All made possible by the undemocratic Remainers . Who'll then start complaining about how could this have happened to our democracy, when they were the ones who killed it.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I'm sure you've seen the question that we were asked to vote on - to remain in the EU or to leave the EU. I'm still unsure as to what is hard to understand tbh??!
I'm sure you've seen the question that we were asked to vote on - to remain in the EU or to leave the EU. I'm still unsure as to what is hard to understand tbh??!
Or, so you say the majority of votes was to leave the EU.
But how?
- Hard Brexit? ---> leaving the EU
- Brexit with a deal that has to be negotiated ---> leaving the EU
- leave and then associate with the EU like Norway/Switzerland? ---> leaving the EU
- what happens with Ireland (a question that I've been asking 3 years ago already may I say)
And that's exactly what the current dispute is all about.
Aaaah, wish that life would be easier......
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Parliament said it would enact the outcome of the referendum.
So yes we voted for them. They have not done this but have
Thwarted the will of the people.
You're trying to change history again Higgy baby.
Not a question of not liking anything, the politicians said they
Would respect the vote ...... they lied )
Brexit was a dream that has passed, as trying to leave the EU is
Like trying to leave the Maffia ( can't be done ) ) Although it
Is what it is, we're staying {[]
It's not me saying it's undemocratic it 52% of the UK
Population, ...... I know you love the EU , but you do
Understand how voting works ? ) ... who gets the
Most votes wins. .... rather than the 48% who seem
To have won.
Once again our views on what a democracy is very
Different, must be the EU in you and my British sense
Of fair play. )
In the same way you accept Trump has been found totally innocent
Of all charges, after a full investigation. {[] I'm sure you won't
Complain about that ?
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
P
In the same way you accept Trump has been found totally innocent
Of all charges, after a full investigation. {[] I'm sure you won't
Complain about that ?
Well, I'd like to hear what the report says in full - even from the summary, he is not found fully innocent - though only in criminal terms.
But if the Muller report finds Trump totally innocent, I am all ok with it. I have confidence in Muller and in the investigation, 100%!
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Well, the Brexiteers promised everything - no matter what just to get the votes.
They gave the illusion, that there will be no damage, just paradise and the world waits to trade with you all.
They also lied by saying that they will execute the hard Brexit.
Where is Farage now?
Where is Johnson now? He had several opportunities to oust May but he hasn't!
Why? Because he knows, that he can't do better because leaving with no deal would lead to disaster and he does not want to be responsible for that!
Turns out now, that most of the "scaremongering" was absolutely correct, and that's exactly the reason why they refuse to throw the country over the edge. Some stubborn ones - including yourself, will never accept it and I am totally fine with it.
But your way of thinking and interpretation of the Brexit vote has no majority and you certainly have to accept that.
Saying that I love the EU is not accurate and I've said this multiple times here.
Comparing the EU with the Mafia is just silly.
The EU brought us all peace for an unusual period of time, it brought us wealth (- the austerity bills were not done by the EU but from your governments since Thatcher). The financial crisis 2008 showed how dangerous the ever-increasing debts can be and EU tried to set some rules to fight that.
So, I see the EU as a valuable thing - not perfect in any way - but it's difficult to keep 27/28 countries together and needs a lot of compromise sense.
I will fight and speak for the EU until my last breath because the alternatives are horrible in a globalised world.
Where are the trade deals that the UK have reached so far? Do you really think, that the UK will have leverage in negotiations with giants like the US, India, China who are all associated in some larger units.
Saying that the 48% have won is just silly - just because you don't get the Hard Brexit that you and I want.
Pretty sure, and I really hope it, the UK will leave the EU soon , pretty sure with a deal, so you can't say that the Remainers have won!
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Although a certain member of this forum told me the idea of
Speed limiters being brought in by the EU was rubbish.. ....
.... imagine my surprise listening to RTE radio 1 ( the Irish Republic's broadcasting station like the BBC here ) discussing ....... the introduction of Speed Limiters ! )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Although a certain member of this forum told me the idea of
Speed limiters being brought in by the EU was rubbish.. ....
....
...and again - this is not what I wrote.
I was quoting the headline summary which was:
"A stack of new safety legislation is due to be approved by the European Parliament later this year and Britain is expected to follow suit..
So, it‘s not decided yet and it‘s unclear if UK will have to follow or if it‘s only expected."
My main criticism was, that the Sun implied in their bigger headline that it was a decided thing while it is work in progress
I know that you love to trivialize things, but you should quote me properly.
So now to the topic of these speed limiters:
There is an initiative to reduce fatalities in the EU and that limiter is one part of the plan. That must be decided by the national leaders and the European Parliament.
I know, that you see these limiters just as another vehicle by the EU to bully people, but the goal is a good one.
Having said all that, I am pretty sure that german and italian car manufacturers will heavily lobby to not let this happen, "Thank You" letters from you should then go to Volkswagen and Mercedes for fighting for your freedom )
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Firstly to my friend Higgins and everyone else, I have no feelings about Brexit either for or against. My only interest is that I come from a country where free voting is not allowed and I indeed have suffered and even been in prison because I stood for people to have a free vote. This is why I think that it is the most important part of this matter for people to respect how other people voted and not try to take away their decisions. As far as I am concerned the people gave their verdict and it is for nobody to take this away or try to demonise them for voting which ever way they chose to vote. Do that and you will soon end up making votes worthless or even putting people in prison like I was just for standing up for the right for peoples vote to be respected.
This article might help to explain why some people have different views to others in the Subject of the EU in this debate. I do not believe this is an attack but just a perspective from a British reporter living in Germany.
News just in on BBC radio 4, the introduction of speed limiters
Will be "Mandatory " in 2022 {[] great to see the vote on this
Getting through, although I don"t remember it
The EU reminds me of an old communist state everthing has to
Be regulated, controlled, no individuality allowed. That's how we
Lose our freedoms drop by drop. The EU state has to control
Everthing. ) Which is fine if you like that sort of thing.
Very well written Joshua, democracy is very simple. Some
Choose to make it complicated.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
The EU rules must now be formally approved by member states and the European Parliament
Under new safety rules agreed by the European Union, all new vehicles are required to have "intelligent speed assistance" systems as standard equipment.
The EU rules don't mandate specific technology for the systems
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
And glad to see you still standing on the sideline throwing eggs on everyone and still have not a single constructive approach to anything then sarcasm!
What is your proposal to solve the Ireland issue btw?
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Comments
Yeah, Im with you there TP {[]
Alas I sadly think you are right TP. Clearly 17.4M votes in a referendum mean nothing to these self-serving clowns. Not entirely sure if I will ever bring myself to vote again, as it's meaningless.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
etc. Voting to leave meant leaving EVERTHING ! " so be very sure
How you vote " .
So it was made very clear to us, we were told leaving could even
Lead to WW3 ( that's an actual David Cameron statement ). Only
After the vote and the undemocratic Remainers got involved did all
These problems become so important. Up until then according to
The remain side to vote leave meant voting to leave all aspects of the
EU. All very simple.
Parliament never wanted to leave, ( hence why all the pantomime and
Drama , leading to us eventually...... not leaving at all
The only good thing for me is that I did predict this outcome ( even better than Uri ) I can laugh as in years to come , people complain about the EU and their rules, as the percentage of people voting drops lower and lower, with most likely the rise of right wing political parties.
All made possible by the undemocratic Remainers . Who'll then start complaining about how could this have happened to our democracy, when they were the ones who killed it.
all this has been put down as scaremongering by everyone - including this forum - so I doubt that anyone really believed it.
And the Remainers are undemocratic? Aren't you a bit over-dramatic, TP?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Or, so you say the majority of votes was to leave the EU.
But how?
- Hard Brexit? ---> leaving the EU
- Brexit with a deal that has to be negotiated ---> leaving the EU
- leave and then associate with the EU like Norway/Switzerland? ---> leaving the EU
- what happens with Ireland (a question that I've been asking 3 years ago already may I say)
And that's exactly what the current dispute is all about.
Aaaah, wish that life would be easier......
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
And who elected that parliament?
We must be careful not getting un-democratic here, if you don't like something, TP
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
So yes we voted for them. They have not done this but have
Thwarted the will of the people.
You're trying to change history again Higgy baby.
Not a question of not liking anything, the politicians said they
Would respect the vote ...... they lied
Brexit was a dream that has passed, as trying to leave the EU is
Like trying to leave the Maffia ( can't be done )
Is what it is, we're staying {[]
It's not me saying it's undemocratic it 52% of the UK
Population, ...... I know you love the EU , but you do
Understand how voting works ?
Most votes wins. .... rather than the 48% who seem
To have won.
Once again our views on what a democracy is very
Different, must be the EU in you and my British sense
Of fair play.
In the same way you accept Trump has been found totally innocent
Of all charges, after a full investigation. {[] I'm sure you won't
Complain about that ?
Well, I'd like to hear what the report says in full - even from the summary, he is not found fully innocent - though only in criminal terms.
But if the Muller report finds Trump totally innocent, I am all ok with it. I have confidence in Muller and in the investigation, 100%!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Well, the Brexiteers promised everything - no matter what just to get the votes.
They gave the illusion, that there will be no damage, just paradise and the world waits to trade with you all.
They also lied by saying that they will execute the hard Brexit.
Where is Farage now?
Where is Johnson now? He had several opportunities to oust May but he hasn't!
Why? Because he knows, that he can't do better because leaving with no deal would lead to disaster and he does not want to be responsible for that!
Turns out now, that most of the "scaremongering" was absolutely correct, and that's exactly the reason why they refuse to throw the country over the edge. Some stubborn ones - including yourself, will never accept it and I am totally fine with it.
But your way of thinking and interpretation of the Brexit vote has no majority and you certainly have to accept that.
Saying that I love the EU is not accurate and I've said this multiple times here.
Comparing the EU with the Mafia is just silly.
The EU brought us all peace for an unusual period of time, it brought us wealth (- the austerity bills were not done by the EU but from your governments since Thatcher). The financial crisis 2008 showed how dangerous the ever-increasing debts can be and EU tried to set some rules to fight that.
So, I see the EU as a valuable thing - not perfect in any way - but it's difficult to keep 27/28 countries together and needs a lot of compromise sense.
I will fight and speak for the EU until my last breath because the alternatives are horrible in a globalised world.
Where are the trade deals that the UK have reached so far? Do you really think, that the UK will have leverage in negotiations with giants like the US, India, China who are all associated in some larger units.
Saying that the 48% have won is just silly - just because you don't get the Hard Brexit that you and I want.
Pretty sure, and I really hope it, the UK will leave the EU soon , pretty sure with a deal, so you can't say that the Remainers have won!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Heaven forbid any Bond fan contradicts Article 13 too ... trial by memes or gifs doesn't bear thinking about
Speed limiters being brought in by the EU was rubbish.. ....
.... imagine my surprise listening to RTE radio 1 ( the Irish Republic's broadcasting station like the BBC here ) discussing ....... the introduction of Speed Limiters !
...and again - this is not what I wrote.
I was quoting the headline summary which was:
"A stack of new safety legislation is due to be approved by the European Parliament later this year and Britain is expected to follow suit..
So, it‘s not decided yet and it‘s unclear if UK will have to follow or if it‘s only expected."
My main criticism was, that the Sun implied in their bigger headline that it was a decided thing while it is work in progress
I know that you love to trivialize things, but you should quote me properly.
So now to the topic of these speed limiters:
There is an initiative to reduce fatalities in the EU and that limiter is one part of the plan. That must be decided by the national leaders and the European Parliament.
I know, that you see these limiters just as another vehicle by the EU to bully people, but the goal is a good one.
Having said all that, I am pretty sure that german and italian car manufacturers will heavily lobby to not let this happen, "Thank You" letters from you should then go to Volkswagen and Mercedes for fighting for your freedom
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
This article might help to explain why some people have different views to others in the Subject of the EU in this debate. I do not believe this is an attack but just a perspective from a British reporter living in Germany.
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/the-eu-is-a-religion-for-germans-no-wonder-brexit-is-going-so-badly/
Will be "Mandatory " in 2022 {[] great to see the vote on this
Getting through, although I don"t remember it
The EU reminds me of an old communist state everthing has to
Be regulated, controlled, no individuality allowed. That's how we
Lose our freedoms drop by drop. The EU state has to control
Everthing.
Very well written Joshua, democracy is very simple. Some
Choose to make it complicated.
Or BBC radio has gotten it wrong.
The speed limiters are not decided yet.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Be Introduced,
As now BBC television is stating it's a fact for 2022. Although I'm
Still going with your assertion, that it will not happen .
Fake News !!!!
The EU rules must now be formally approved by member states and the European Parliament
Under new safety rules agreed by the European Union, all new vehicles are required to have "intelligent speed assistance" systems as standard equipment.
The EU rules don't mandate specific technology for the systems
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
The Politburo
And that you have quoted me wrongly ?
Thank you!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
What is your proposal to solve the Ireland issue btw?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Or
Like Trump, build a wall. Only ours will have cash
Machines in it.