Well, the recent events in the UK parliament have shown how fast 27 countries can come to decisions - repeatedly and over night.
I am looking forward to see you celebrating populists, haters radicals and nationalists after the protest vote in the EU elections.
Oh, you would never do that, right?
And who knows, maybe the positive people who are pro EU will get more votes then expected, that would be funny
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I will indeed be celebrating {[] Big time {[] Democracy, I love it :x
Others use Semantics ( like snake oil salesmen ) to belittle the rights
of ordinary people, calling them names like haters, radicals and nationalists.
I have no fear of Democracy :x it's a sound system, only those who have
hidden agendas, dislike it. Wanting people to vote and vote again until they
vote the " Correct " way. )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Ah, the old change the subject ploy ) has anyone disputed the UK
Referendum results, any one claim it was unfair, or not properly carried out ?
please list all the countries and Organizations that have stated the elections
in the UK were, unfair ? ) ) ) I'll put that down to "Salesman Semantics" )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I have mentioned several times the massive flaws in the referendum process and how the Leave Campaign lied, cheated, manipulated and emotionalized basically good people to vote against their interest.
It was certainly enough to give the edge to get the thin majority.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I have mentioned several times the massive flaws in the referendum process and how the Leave Campaign lied, cheated, manipulated and emotionalized basically good people to vote against their interest.
It was certainly enough to give the edge to get the thin majority.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I did not say that countries and organisations have stated that the UK elections have been unfair.
I gave you my opinion, why the referendum was heavily flawed and manipulated and that had a larger influence than the tiny majority which it turned out.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
What I criticise is your attitude that everybody who has the slightest doubts about the results and the way that lead to that vote, is undemocratic.
You are the one who shouts around like an evangelist:‘No matter how a democratic vote has been achieved - it must be followed“!
And to that, I was making a counterargument with the venezuelan elections.
You may agree, that Maduro manipulated and cheated himself into the vote admitted to a far higher degree like the Brexiteers lied, cheated and manipulated themselfs into the majority of the Brexit vote. It was a fine line to draw and I did it and was well aware that you‘d just shout over it in your usual rage.
And I have pointed out, that ‚Leaving the EU‘ could also mean ‚Leaving the EU‘ with a deal.
That you and Joshua don‘t accept and put me in the same boat with dictators and undemocrats.
And you are well aware if that, your rage and hate against everything EU just does not allow yourself to go down to a reasonable position.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Please list all the countries and Organizations that have stated the elections
in the UK were, unfair ? ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )
Still waiting ?
" your rage and hate against everything EU "
WOW !!! rather personal, do you really know me that well ?
Happily I have stayed away from personal abuse, it is after all ....
....... The British way )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
So that's how they do it? Interesting. Here we're so few people we just turn up an dpoint at the person we want to represent us.
Do you have any theory on the number of Britons who'll go into the small booth, with a voting slip and pen and vote?
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,845MI6 Agent
I think a lot of disgruntled Conservative and Labour voters who voted for Brexit will switch allegiance to Farage's new Brexit Party. I expect the two main parties to get a good drubbing at the polls. Such is the price of the failed delivery of Brexit.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
The polls for the Brexit party are amazing, if
They get that sort of result in the election.....
..... there Will be big changes in the two main
Parties.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
Since this is an election into a union a majority of voters wanted out of and were supposed to have left by now, do you think fewer Britons will vote in the upcoming election? And have I finally found a way to phrase the question that isn't wide open to misunderstandings?
I'll always deliberately misunderstand
Yes I expect the vote to be down in numbers and
Think the two big winners will be the Brexit party
And the LibDems it's almost a second referendum
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
That you and Joshua don‘t accept and put me in the same boat with dictators and undemocrats.
That is an untruth. I have never said any one here was a dictator or anti democrat.
I said goodbye to this thread a while ago as it had largely become a pointless chest thumping, propaganda point scoring exercise (of which I had found myself sucked into) but my comment was removed. This is not my return to this topic, I just happened to look through this thread so as to prove my own decision was the correct one when I saw the above comment.
In the scheme of things, events will be decided by the people of the UK and its politicians and not influenced by what is said (argued) here. I advise everyone to stand by to be proved right or wrong by those events as they unfold and more importantly be prepared to accept the outcome. The EU elections can be looked upon at a reliable litmus test of the measure of pro or anti Brexit sentiment in the UK, a third chance for citizens to voice their opinion on the subject at the ballot box (the other two being the referendum and general election. I cannot include the local elections as the main pro Brexit parties were not standing, neither were the Change UK).
I will end by insisting that you will please not mention my name again.
Yours,
a simple uneducated African. (my words not anyone's here)
Joshua, I too am a simple, uneducated Brit. Please don't
Let anyone silence your opinion . I was encouraged in the
Discussions on this thread by the many PMs from members
Who support the idea of democracy but who don't want to
Comment here, as it can get heated.
Why not just shoot the breeze on some other threads, where
All opinions are welcome.
Roll on may 23, and the 2nd referendum ( unofficial ) takes
Place
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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I am looking forward to see you celebrating populists, haters radicals and nationalists after the protest vote in the EU elections.
Oh, you would never do that, right?
And who knows, maybe the positive people who are pro EU will get more votes then expected, that would be funny
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Others use Semantics ( like snake oil salesmen ) to belittle the rights
of ordinary people, calling them names like haters, radicals and nationalists.
I have no fear of Democracy :x it's a sound system, only those who have
hidden agendas, dislike it. Wanting people to vote and vote again until they
vote the " Correct " way.
Salesman Semantics
Calling a spade a spade it is
And you are such a democrat, surely the democratic elections in Venezuela must be accepted
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Referendum results, any one claim it was unfair, or not properly carried out ?
please list all the countries and Organizations that have stated the elections
in the UK were, unfair ?
It was certainly enough to give the edge to get the thin majority.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
in the UK were, unfair ? "
I'm waiting
It was certainly enough to give the edge to get the thin majority.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
in the UK were, unfair ? "
I gave you my opinion, why the referendum was heavily flawed and manipulated and that had a larger influence than the tiny majority which it turned out.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
you equated the UK vote with that of Venezuela, so once again I'll ask the question ....
"Please list all the countries and Organizations that have stated the elections
in the UK were, unfair ? "
three times the question has been asked and still, No Answer
What I criticise is your attitude that everybody who has the slightest doubts about the results and the way that lead to that vote, is undemocratic.
You are the one who shouts around like an evangelist:‘No matter how a democratic vote has been achieved - it must be followed“!
And to that, I was making a counterargument with the venezuelan elections.
You may agree, that Maduro manipulated and cheated himself into the vote admitted to a far higher degree like the Brexiteers lied, cheated and manipulated themselfs into the majority of the Brexit vote. It was a fine line to draw and I did it and was well aware that you‘d just shout over it in your usual rage.
And I have pointed out, that ‚Leaving the EU‘ could also mean ‚Leaving the EU‘ with a deal.
That you and Joshua don‘t accept and put me in the same boat with dictators and undemocrats.
And you are well aware if that, your rage and hate against everything EU just does not allow yourself to go down to a reasonable position.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
in the UK were, unfair ?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
in the UK were, unfair ?
Still waiting ?
" your rage and hate against everything EU "
WOW !!! rather personal, do you really know me that well ?
Happily I have stayed away from personal abuse, it is after all ....
....... The British way
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
We don't see enough images of the great man
I couldn’t agree more...this thread is tiresome...closed for recess.
I wonder ho many Britons will vote at the upcoming EU elections?
We usually go in to a small booth, with a voting slip and pen .........
Do you have any theory on the number of Britons who'll go into the small booth, with a voting slip and pen and vote?
They get that sort of result in the election.....
..... there Will be big changes in the two main
Parties.
Yes I expect the vote to be down in numbers and
Think the two big winners will be the Brexit party
And the LibDems it's almost a second referendum
I wouldn't be surprised if many boycoted the upcoming EU election.
That is an untruth. I have never said any one here was a dictator or anti democrat.
I said goodbye to this thread a while ago as it had largely become a pointless chest thumping, propaganda point scoring exercise (of which I had found myself sucked into) but my comment was removed. This is not my return to this topic, I just happened to look through this thread so as to prove my own decision was the correct one when I saw the above comment.
In the scheme of things, events will be decided by the people of the UK and its politicians and not influenced by what is said (argued) here. I advise everyone to stand by to be proved right or wrong by those events as they unfold and more importantly be prepared to accept the outcome. The EU elections can be looked upon at a reliable litmus test of the measure of pro or anti Brexit sentiment in the UK, a third chance for citizens to voice their opinion on the subject at the ballot box (the other two being the referendum and general election. I cannot include the local elections as the main pro Brexit parties were not standing, neither were the Change UK).
I will end by insisting that you will please not mention my name again.
Yours,
a simple uneducated African. (my words not anyone's here)
Let anyone silence your opinion . I was encouraged in the
Discussions on this thread by the many PMs from members
Who support the idea of democracy but who don't want to
Comment here, as it can get heated.
Why not just shoot the breeze on some other threads, where
All opinions are welcome.
Roll on may 23, and the 2nd referendum ( unofficial ) takes
Place