So I got home from work today and low and behold I had a letter from FedEx for the fees on the jacket. They want a $187 for the duties even though my paperwork from Luigi clearly says for personal use BUT it's a commercial invoice. Looks like I'll be making a phone call tomorrow to Fedex to see what can be done!
Has anyone reached out to Luigi to address this because this will definitely become an issue with the polo project especially if Tom Ford continues to use FedEx.
The polo should still fall under the Section 321 exemption since it's under $800.
As for the jacket, I will try the CBP (Customs and Border Protection) again to get a definitive answer.
That's true but I know there are a few people looking at buying more than 1 so for them it would be an issue. Hopefully they give you some sort of answer.
He is (painfully) aware of this discussion. And since they and he are going by policy you are going to spend an inordinate amount of time more than likely battling something that will not change. I know it seems a principle thing but I would hate for you to spend $1000 hours worth of time battling $187....because many of us have. And we still had to pay....
So I got home from work today and low and behold I had a letter from FedEx for the fees on the jacket. They want a $187 for the duties even though my paperwork from Luigi clearly says for personal use BUT it's a commercial invoice. Looks like I'll be making a phone call tomorrow to Fedex to see what can be done!
Has anyone reached out to Luigi to address this because this will definitely become an issue with the polo project especially if Tom Ford continues to use FedEx.
So I got home from work today and low and behold I had a letter from FedEx for the fees on the jacket. They want a $187 for the duties even though my paperwork from Luigi clearly says for personal use BUT it's a commercial invoice. Looks like I'll be making a phone call tomorrow to Fedex to see what can be done!
Has anyone reached out to Luigi to address this because this will definitely become an issue with the polo project especially if Tom Ford continues to use FedEx.
Hello Mike,
I assume that you are located in the US?
At the end of the day, it's a private purchase from a commercial company on your end and you will be subject to your local duties.
FedEx or and other transportation company have no saying in this, it's your local tax office.
As for falsely declaring your jacket - it's wrong and will get all parties into trouble if caught.
Pretty sure, you have not paid the VAT that applies to us european guys (21%!!!), so with $ 187,-- you are getting a pretty good deal, I'd say.
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I had a contact send me a gift (and it honestly was, FOC) but he sent it from his work address. His business has no relation or connection to the type of gift (imagine a florist sending a car part) but because it had a business address as the sender and he hadn't ticked the gift option, I got stung for import duties. Couple this with he hadn't filled in the value, customs can assume the value and charged me £78 import tax in total for a gift I wasn't expecting and is probably worth about half the value. I tried to appeal but got no where.
Trust me, some fights, however annoying, are best walked away from.
He is (painfully) aware of this discussion. And since they and he are going by policy you are going to spend an inordinate amount of time more than likely battling something that will not change. I know it seems a principle thing but I would hate for you to spend $1000 hours worth of time battling $187....because many of us have. And we still had to pay....
So I got home from work today and low and behold I had a letter from FedEx for the fees on the jacket. They want a $187 for the duties even though my paperwork from Luigi clearly says for personal use BUT it's a commercial invoice. Looks like I'll be making a phone call tomorrow to Fedex to see what can be done!
Has anyone reached out to Luigi to address this because this will definitely become an issue with the polo project especially if Tom Ford continues to use FedEx.
Mantis thanks for the response and you are correct that this is more of principle thing for me. I originally figured i would end up paying around 20% of the purchase price in taxes which is pretty close to what i was actually charged but i'll just send them the payment for the duties and be done with it.
So I got home from work today and low and behold I had a letter from FedEx for the fees on the jacket. They want a $187 for the duties even though my paperwork from Luigi clearly says for personal use BUT it's a commercial invoice. Looks like I'll be making a phone call tomorrow to Fedex to see what can be done!
Has anyone reached out to Luigi to address this because this will definitely become an issue with the polo project especially if Tom Ford continues to use FedEx.
Hello Mike,
I assume that you are located in the US?
At the end of the day, it's a private purchase from a commercial company on your end and you will be subject to your local duties.
FedEx or and other transportation company have no saying in this, it's your local tax office.
As for falsely declaring your jacket - it's wrong and will get all parties into trouble if caught.
Pretty sure, you have not paid the VAT that applies to us european guys (21%!!!), so with $ 187,-- you are getting a pretty good deal, I'd say.
Yes i am located in the US. I realize that its a private transaction between me and Tom Ford and that duties need to paid. My concern is that the "commercial" invoice clearly states that the jacket is for personal use so if that's case why would a person not be allowed the $800 dollar exception? The only thing i can assume is that they didn't see the part about personal use and based the duties on the type of invoice provided when shipped so i don't see anyone getting in trouble.
Yeah i know in Europe you guys get beaten over the head with VAT on a lot of different items but you're right that we in US even with duties have it better. Ultimately i am very fortunate to have been able to get in at the last minute and even order a jacket so once the duties are paid i'll completely forget about this little issue and enjoy my jacket
If there is an exception on your side (I don't know the US rules), you should contact FedEx and speak to someone who is in charge with imports.
It seems the prevailing sentiment is to not even bother as no one has made progress with either paying less or getting a refund. I'll just take care of it and chalk it up as being one of life's little annoyances.
Just reading through all the comments, did anyone order a 46 that fits well? If so what size chest and waist are you if you don’t mind me asking. Just so I know sizing if the opportunity comes up
Just reading through all the comments, did anyone order a 46 that fits well? If so what size chest and waist are you if you don’t mind me asking. Just so I know sizing if the opportunity comes up
What are the measurements for your shoulders, chest and waist? I ask because you need to take into consideration were you live and the type of clothes you'd be wearing with the jacket because that can make a difference in sizing.
Here are the measurements for a size 46 converted from cm to inches.
1/2 Chest 21.26 x 2 = 42.52
Center Back 25.39
Shoulders 18.5
1/2 Waist 18.9 x 2 = 37.8
Sleeve from collar bone 34.65
1/2 Cuffs 5.41 x 2 = 10.82
Bicep 7.87
Wow okay 46 is quite big, good to know, this is assuming one of you handsome devils is in the market to sell one of course in the future
David, I’d love to see a follow up vlog of your finished jacket post tailoring to see what is achievable. Even if I don’t end up getting one, a video would be awesome.
First time poster - joined especially for the 2nd jacket run, and thought i'd be a good time to share my experience given HarveyMushman is looking to source a 46, which is what i have and hope this helps.
I'm about 5' 9", 68kg and normally a 31" waist (sorry i dont have a tape measure at home to give details of my chest size).
I based my decision mainly on 2 things:
1. the fit of my baracuta G4 harrington in size 38 (UK) which i believe is equivalent to an EU 48, which gives me a fitted look on the shoulders and chest zipped up. Can't rem why exactly but I just felt the measurements were closer to the 46 on the size chart provided for this project and ran with that.
2. Mantis' comments about a 48 being too baggy on him (i'm fairly skinny so am nowhere near as built as he appears to be). I also have the Sunspel polo in medium which i bought late last year, and it's fairly loose fitting on me (except maybe the shoulders) so i felt a 48 was def going to be a poor fit for me.
Now my feedback on the 46, which i considered a sizing down based on my g4:
Shoulders and Chest: Zipped up, the first time i tried on the jacket i felt the back of the shoulders were noticeably tighter than my baracuta, yet chest area felt similar to my g4. I actually almost panicked the shoulders were too tight, but over time it seems to have loosened up.
Sleeves: like alot of members jackets, the sleeves seem unusually long and reach down to my index knuckle even though i sized down. Doing the 2nd button helps but my skinny wrists are too thin to hold them up to my ideal positions of just below the wrist. Also doing this just bunches up the sleeves which to me isn't ideal. I do not have this issue on my G4 (sleeves end just below my wrists).
Waist: like James Brosnan and a few others, the waist seems pretty tight zipped up. I can only just manage to do up the 2nd buttons but then i can hardly move, and would probably snap the buttons right off if i pushed it. The hem is just below my belt area, but if i raise my arms straight up jacket rides up quite a bit.
Overall i think i made the right decision given i am partial to form fitting jackets, but feel i was cutting it close on the waist and being able to zip up the jacket.
I know a picture is worth a thousand words, but my jacket is with the TF tailors atm (shortening the sleeves by a full inch). Can look to post some pics after alterations are done at the end of next month should anyone still be interested, but thought i'd share my thoughts now in case it helped those looking to source one from those looking to part with theirs anytime in the future. At least everyone here now knows there's another 46 owner out there B-) .
To cap off this rather long post - thanks to Simon and everyone involved who made this even happen, and to those who took the time to post which helped a lot on my sizing decision. I jumped in super late into the 2nd run (early october), but thanks to everyone's efforts I made it just in time and now own one of the most iconic Bond jackets ever :007) !
Wow okay 46 is quite big, good to know, this is assuming one of you handsome devils is in the market to sell one of course in the future
David, I’d love to see a follow up vlog of your finished jacket post tailoring to see what is achievable. Even if I don’t end up getting one, a video would be awesome.
I would recommend a 44 for you but If you have a chance get your shoulders measured. The twill fabric doesn't have a ton of give so you may get too much drag in the shoulders so sizing up may be preferred. When i was going over my measurements with Luigi he advised me to go with a 52 BUT i decided against it after speaking to someone on the forum who had similar measurements to me and i went for a 54. I figured if a 54 was too big i could have the chest taken in a bit whereas a 52 wouldn't give me enough room be let out.
At this point i don't think David is going to do another vlog on the Harrington as he probably would have done one months ago.
First time poster - joined especially for the 2nd jacket run, and thought i'd be a good time to share my experience given HarveyMushman is looking to source a 46, which is what i have and hope this helps.
I'm about 5' 9", 68kg and normally a 31" waist (sorry i dont have a tape measure at home to give details of my chest size).
I based my decision mainly on 2 things:
1. the fit of my baracuta G4 harrington in size 38 (UK) which i believe is equivalent to an EU 48, which gives me a fitted look on the shoulders and chest zipped up. Can't rem why exactly but I just felt the measurements were closer to the 46 on the size chart provided for this project and ran with that.
2. Mantis' comments about a 48 being too baggy on him (i'm fairly skinny so am nowhere near as built as he appears to be). I also have the Sunspel polo in medium which i bought late last year, and it's fairly loose fitting on me (except maybe the shoulders) so i felt a 48 was def going to be a poor fit for me.
Now my feedback on the 46, which i considered a sizing down based on my g4:
Shoulders and Chest: Zipped up, the first time i tried on the jacket i felt the back of the shoulders were noticeably tighter than my baracuta, yet chest area felt similar to my g4. I actually almost panicked the shoulders were too tight, but over time it seems to have loosened up.
Sleeves: like alot of members jackets, the sleeves seem unusually long and reach down to my index knuckle even though i sized down. Doing the 2nd button helps but my skinny wrists are too thin to hold them up to my ideal positions of just below the wrist. Also doing this just bunches up the sleeves which to me isn't ideal. I do not have this issue on my G4 (sleeves end just below my wrists).
Waist: like James Brosnan and a few others, the waist seems pretty tight zipped up. I can only just manage to do up the 2nd buttons but then i can hardly move, and would probably snap the buttons right off if i pushed it. The hem is just below my belt area, but if i raise my arms straight up jacket rides up quite a bit.
Overall i think i made the right decision given i am partial to form fitting jackets, but feel i was cutting it close on the waist and being able to zip up the jacket.
I know a picture is worth a thousand words, but my jacket is with the TF tailors atm (shortening the sleeves by a full inch). Can look to post some pics after alterations are done at the end of next month should anyone still be interested, but thought i'd share my thoughts now in case it helped those looking to source one from those looking to part with theirs anytime in the future. At least everyone here now knows there's another 46 owner out there B-) .
To cap off this rather long post - thanks to Simon and everyone involved who made this even happen, and to those who took the time to post which helped a lot on my sizing decision. I jumped in super late into the 2nd run (early october), but thanks to everyone's efforts I made it just in time and now own one of the most iconic Bond jackets ever :007) !
I was lucky enough to get in at the very beginning of October and i am glad i did! I was going to have the chest in my jacket taken in, sleeves brought up and have the cuffs adjusted by half an inch but i am going to wait till the spring to see if i can live with the fit. Can't wait to see how your alterations look!
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Knowing my luck it will be probably be under the Christmas tree with a label that says...
To: Mike
From: Santa
Yeah, the robot Santa from Futurama.
I had to look up that part from Futurama and it was definitely worth a laugh especially the part about bribing Santa.
Has anyone reached out to Luigi to address this because this will definitely become an issue with the polo project especially if Tom Ford continues to use FedEx.
As for the jacket, I will try the CBP (Customs and Border Protection) again to get a definitive answer.
That's true but I know there are a few people looking at buying more than 1 so for them it would be an issue. Hopefully they give you some sort of answer.
Hello Mike,
I assume that you are located in the US?
At the end of the day, it's a private purchase from a commercial company on your end and you will be subject to your local duties.
FedEx or and other transportation company have no saying in this, it's your local tax office.
As for falsely declaring your jacket - it's wrong and will get all parties into trouble if caught.
Pretty sure, you have not paid the VAT that applies to us european guys (21%!!!), so with $ 187,-- you are getting a pretty good deal, I'd say.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I had a contact send me a gift (and it honestly was, FOC) but he sent it from his work address. His business has no relation or connection to the type of gift (imagine a florist sending a car part) but because it had a business address as the sender and he hadn't ticked the gift option, I got stung for import duties. Couple this with he hadn't filled in the value, customs can assume the value and charged me £78 import tax in total for a gift I wasn't expecting and is probably worth about half the value. I tried to appeal but got no where.
Trust me, some fights, however annoying, are best walked away from.
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Mantis thanks for the response and you are correct that this is more of principle thing for me. I originally figured i would end up paying around 20% of the purchase price in taxes which is pretty close to what i was actually charged but i'll just send them the payment for the duties and be done with it.
Thanks,
Mike
Yes i am located in the US. I realize that its a private transaction between me and Tom Ford and that duties need to paid. My concern is that the "commercial" invoice clearly states that the jacket is for personal use so if that's case why would a person not be allowed the $800 dollar exception? The only thing i can assume is that they didn't see the part about personal use and based the duties on the type of invoice provided when shipped so i don't see anyone getting in trouble.
Yeah i know in Europe you guys get beaten over the head with VAT on a lot of different items but you're right that we in US even with duties have it better. Ultimately i am very fortunate to have been able to get in at the last minute and even order a jacket so once the duties are paid i'll completely forget about this little issue and enjoy my jacket
Thanks,
Mike
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
It seems the prevailing sentiment is to not even bother as no one has made progress with either paying less or getting a refund. I'll just take care of it and chalk it up as being one of life's little annoyances.
I bet there are more than a few people who wished they got in on the project.
Ross
Gymkata here is a copy of the sizing chart for your viewing pleasure
Ross
Much appreciated
What are the measurements for your shoulders, chest and waist? I ask because you need to take into consideration were you live and the type of clothes you'd be wearing with the jacket because that can make a difference in sizing.
Here are the measurements for a size 46 converted from cm to inches.
1/2 Chest 21.26 x 2 = 42.52
Center Back 25.39
Shoulders 18.5
1/2 Waist 18.9 x 2 = 37.8
Sleeve from collar bone 34.65
1/2 Cuffs 5.41 x 2 = 10.82
Bicep 7.87
David, I’d love to see a follow up vlog of your finished jacket post tailoring to see what is achievable. Even if I don’t end up getting one, a video would be awesome.
First time poster - joined especially for the 2nd jacket run, and thought i'd be a good time to share my experience given HarveyMushman is looking to source a 46, which is what i have and hope this helps.
I'm about 5' 9", 68kg and normally a 31" waist (sorry i dont have a tape measure at home to give details of my chest size).
I based my decision mainly on 2 things:
1. the fit of my baracuta G4 harrington in size 38 (UK) which i believe is equivalent to an EU 48, which gives me a fitted look on the shoulders and chest zipped up. Can't rem why exactly but I just felt the measurements were closer to the 46 on the size chart provided for this project and ran with that.
2. Mantis' comments about a 48 being too baggy on him (i'm fairly skinny so am nowhere near as built as he appears to be). I also have the Sunspel polo in medium which i bought late last year, and it's fairly loose fitting on me (except maybe the shoulders) so i felt a 48 was def going to be a poor fit for me.
Now my feedback on the 46, which i considered a sizing down based on my g4:
Shoulders and Chest: Zipped up, the first time i tried on the jacket i felt the back of the shoulders were noticeably tighter than my baracuta, yet chest area felt similar to my g4. I actually almost panicked the shoulders were too tight, but over time it seems to have loosened up.
Sleeves: like alot of members jackets, the sleeves seem unusually long and reach down to my index knuckle even though i sized down. Doing the 2nd button helps but my skinny wrists are too thin to hold them up to my ideal positions of just below the wrist. Also doing this just bunches up the sleeves which to me isn't ideal. I do not have this issue on my G4 (sleeves end just below my wrists).
Waist: like James Brosnan and a few others, the waist seems pretty tight zipped up. I can only just manage to do up the 2nd buttons but then i can hardly move, and would probably snap the buttons right off if i pushed it. The hem is just below my belt area, but if i raise my arms straight up jacket rides up quite a bit.
Overall i think i made the right decision given i am partial to form fitting jackets, but feel i was cutting it close on the waist and being able to zip up the jacket.
I know a picture is worth a thousand words, but my jacket is with the TF tailors atm (shortening the sleeves by a full inch). Can look to post some pics after alterations are done at the end of next month should anyone still be interested, but thought i'd share my thoughts now in case it helped those looking to source one from those looking to part with theirs anytime in the future. At least everyone here now knows there's another 46 owner out there B-) .
To cap off this rather long post - thanks to Simon and everyone involved who made this even happen, and to those who took the time to post which helped a lot on my sizing decision. I jumped in super late into the 2nd run (early october), but thanks to everyone's efforts I made it just in time and now own one of the most iconic Bond jackets ever :007) !
I would recommend a 44 for you but If you have a chance get your shoulders measured. The twill fabric doesn't have a ton of give so you may get too much drag in the shoulders so sizing up may be preferred. When i was going over my measurements with Luigi he advised me to go with a 52 BUT i decided against it after speaking to someone on the forum who had similar measurements to me and i went for a 54. I figured if a 54 was too big i could have the chest taken in a bit whereas a 52 wouldn't give me enough room be let out.
At this point i don't think David is going to do another vlog on the Harrington as he probably would have done one months ago.
I was lucky enough to get in at the very beginning of October and i am glad i did! I was going to have the chest in my jacket taken in, sleeves brought up and have the cuffs adjusted by half an inch but i am going to wait till the spring to see if i can live with the fit. Can't wait to see how your alterations look!