Bond triple bezant shield lapel badge

ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
in James Bond Memorabilia, Collecting & Props
I'm just gauging interest really, I've had a couple of members contact me to ask me where I got the lapel pin badge from used as my avatar, this is isn't a pin badge, as I'm sure some of you know it's the bond shield on the front of my omega aqua terra watch box. But it got me thinking, a pin badge like that would be a nice little thing to have, so I've made a couple of enquiries and can get a quantity manufactured in the UK for around £6.00 each, thats ordering 50, is there any interest out there for getting these made? I'm not trying to make a profit and even considered getting them done and sending them out to those members I regularly chat to then putting the rest on eBay or something. Let me know if your Interested, I'm also getting further quotes. Many thanks gentlemen.
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  • CommandantCommandant Posts: 1,374MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    I'm just gauging interest really, I've had a couple of members contact me to ask me where I got the lapel pin badge from used as my avatar, this is isn't a pin badge, as I'm sure some of you know it's the bond shield on the front of my omega aqua terra watch box. But it got me thinking, a pin badge like that would be a nice little thing to have, so I've made a couple of enquiries and can get a quantity manufactured in the UK for around £6.00 each, thats ordering 50, is there any interest out there for getting these made? I'm not trying to make a profit and even considered getting them done and sending them out to those members I regularly chat to then putting the rest on eBay or something. Let me know if your Interested, I'm also getting further quotes. Many thanks gentlemen.

    I had the same question about your avatar!

    Please count me in for 5.

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Wonderful, I will post further details as I get them and any change in the price also, as soon as this becomes viable I will post my watch box to the manufacturer which should help get a decent result
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  • Bond Collectors' WeekendsBond Collectors' Weekends Gainesville, Florida USAPosts: 1,902MI6 Agent
    Thanks for checking in on this. I'm in as well!
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
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    Bond Collectors' Weekends wrote:
    Thanks for checking in on this. I'm in as well!
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  • Enjoying DeathEnjoying Death Toronto, ON CANADAPosts: 1,249MI6 Agent
    Count me in too!
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  • TennysonTennyson A View to a KillPosts: 606MI6 Agent
    im in.... would be a very subtle touch, much like a masonic handshake ;)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    We'd have to ask AlwaysShaken about that. ;)
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 38,109Chief of Staff
    This thread may be of interest: http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/43969/the-ajb-pin-master-thread/
  • Gadget MeisterGadget Meister Bicester, OxonPosts: 1,972MI6 Agent
    I'm in for five {[]
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,541MI6 Agent
    Don't want to be a party pooper, but.... I think Omega may have registered this as a TM, and you may be open to C&D orders on this project. The logo as it is represented here hasn't really got much to do with the Bond coat of arms, it's just three bezants minus all the rest. This the only thing Omega could claim as theirs, which is why it was altered so drastically from the Bond coat of arms we all recognise. We all know how devastating these projects can be for the people involved if it all goes legal. It's happened many a time on here.

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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,940Chief of Staff
    If you manage to swerve the legal department from Omega then I'd fancy a couple -{
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  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,113MI6 Agent
    I'd be interested as well.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,541MI6 Agent
    Just asked someone in the know. Omega haven't registered this design as far as they are aware {[]
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Don't want to be a party pooper, but.... I think Omega may have registered this as a TM, and you may be open to C&D orders on this project. The logo as it is represented here hasn't really got much to do with the Bond coat of arms, it's just three bezants minus all the rest. This the only thing Omega could claim as theirs, which is why it was altered so drastically from the Bond coat of arms we all recognise. We all know how devastating these projects can be for the people involved if it all goes legal. It's happened many a time on here.

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    I'm currently looking into this as I already thought there could be a legal issue, two things though, if the chevron with the three bezants exist on any other coat of arms there will be no issue as the laws of heraldry are very complex and if that be the case a coat of arms can't be subject to tm laws or copyright. But that being said I have a lot of work to do on this project including attempting to get a better price for a quality product. If omega has a tm on the shield they display it would have to be with yellow bezants in that case I would look at having the bezants in gold, either way I will post progress on here as it seems there is an appetite for these.
    Thanks for the interest gents.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Just asked someone in the know. Omega haven't registered this design as far as they are aware {[]
    -{ i'm getting the same information, I will keep digging though.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Good luck with your investigations, no rush after all ......
    " We have all the time in ..... " ;)
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    .....orbis? Thank you for the kind words tp.
    What I've been told is its incredibly hard to trademark generic shapes such as circles, squares chevrons etc, but entering into the world of coats of arms is a complex thing, I've heard things like proving your family line to prove the right to bare arms and things like that, the chevron is on many coats of arms as are bezants as knights were paid with bezants. But that all aside omega don't appear to have registered this probably as it's part of a full design and the intellectual rights to that design are unclear.
    So in a nut shell I'm progressing and awaiting some prices, time scales and advice on the most appropriate manufacturing process.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    edited September 2016
    http://www.familytreesandcrests.com/heraldry-symbols.htm
    Just a quick look tbrough this guide shows that a chevron means " Protection"
    And Bezant means " virtue, wealth and prosperity "

    just for fun I looked up my family crest it too has a chevron and three dragon heads which
    apparently means my ancestors were " always up for a fight " :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Yes apparantly the bezant was a byzantine coin and paid to knights so your right on the money there tp :D

    My family coat of arms

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    Seemingly the clam shells represent pilgrimages!?
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Or could they be Tassels ? Perhaps your ancestors were in the entertainment industry ? ;)
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    :)) only scarramanga needs 3 nipple tassles
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  • Smithers500Smithers500 Spectre IslandPosts: 1,347MI6 Agent
    I'll be in for one if this goes ahead, thanks
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  • James BrosnanJames Brosnan Posts: 865MI6 Agent
    I'm totally down! Count me in for one.
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  • minigeffminigeff EnglandPosts: 7,884MI6 Agent
    I'd take a couple -{

    Must admit I'd really like a full cost of arms badge :x
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  • ggl007ggl007 SpainPosts: 388MI6 Agent
    What an interesting thread, Chriscoop! Thanks for your research and your work!
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  • ttdriverttdriver Posts: 202MI6 Agent
    Count me in for a couple as well. Nice project
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    edited September 2016
    Further to the trademark issue on using the shield as omega have, I have had a lengthy discussion with a specialist and I've found out some interesting things that I relayed to him, the coat of arms described in ohmss by Sir Hillary is actually a real coat of arms for the Bond family, the motto originally non sufficit orbis came into existence in the 17th century, the fictional characters coat of arms and therefore the shield used by omega is based on elements of the proper coat of arms. With this information my tm specialist says that omega could not trademark this shield. They could only copyright it's use on a watch or watchbox, similar to their use of the Omega symbol. They can't trademark the Omega symbol as it's a Greek letter and no one can trademark a letter. They have no legal recourse if anyone uses the Omega sign on anything other than a watch. As for the shield? There is no problem with me using it.
    For those interested below is the real Bond coat of arms. The motto non sufficit orbis was originally a war cry used by the knight when entering battle.

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    I will start compiling a list of those interested in the pin badge and I should have some final costs by early next week, hopefully by late next week some composition details and some artwork of the badge.

    This is what the badge will be based on

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    Outline sketch


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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Looks fantastic {[]
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • canoe2canoe2 Posts: 2,007MI6 Agent
    Wouldn't be too hard to turn those into a pair of cufflinks! Great work!
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  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,113MI6 Agent
    For me the pin is just something to have. I would never use a pin on a suit lapel or a jacket.

    They'd lambaste me if I were in politics for refusing to wear a flag lapel pin, not because it is a flag but because it is a pin.
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