Tom Hardy would be a good choice in many ways were it not for the fact that if Bond26 premieres in October 2022 (I think it will as it's the 60th anniversary of Dr No) then he'll be 45 and a little long in the tooth for his debut. I know Roger was approximately 45/46 but can't imagine it happening again.
Henry Cavill clearly really wants it like Tom Hiddleston once did and Lewis Collins many decades ago. I have yet to be convinced that Cavill has the charisma to match his looks. He's a good age though.
Tom Hardy would be a good choice in many ways were it not for the fact that if Bond26 premieres in October 2022 (I think it will as it's the 60th anniversary of Dr No) then he'll be 45 and a little long in the tooth for his debut. I know Roger was approximately 45/46 but can't imagine it happening again.
Henry Cavill clearly really wants it like Tom Hiddleston once did and Lewis Collins many decades ago. I have yet to be convinced that Cavill has the charisma to match his looks. He's a good age though.
Hardy is such a good actor, he kind of has that DeNiro thing, where he can just transform himself into a character that he could probably pull off Bond....but I agree, 45 is just to old to get started. Cavill sure looks like he could be Bond, but I agree there is something missing. Long shot here, but I wonder if Liam Hemsworth (28) in 4 years might mature into Bond material. His older brother Chris, 35, sure has the charisma and screen presence and in his non-Thor slimmed down state might be interesting but probably way too big a name for EON. Although if EON sells out after 25 to a big studio, I could see them going for a Chris Hemsworth.
Chris Hemsworth I could see. Liam at the moment seems like 'Chris light' but as you say four years is a long time so things could change...
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I’ve just read that Henry Cavill is walking away from Superman and the DC Cinematic Universe...FWIW.
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Interesting, ........ is his moustache leaving too ?
No comment from the moustache B-)
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Despite looking like he was genetically assembled in the Bond lab, there's something missing....like charisma and screen presence although I did like him as Superman. The bland earnestness worked as a human looking alien growing up on Earth. Gal Gadot who plays Wonder Woman is welcome in a Bond film anytime. Villain, foreign agent, anything she wants would work for me. Not a great actress but better than expected and has tons of charisma, charm, presence and a nice comedic touch.
Cavill is to acting what Viagra is to male sexual arousal.
STIFF!
He hasn't got the swagger quality you associate with Bond. Well pre-Craig Bond, anyway. If he can unleash his inner swagger, who knows, but it's doubtful it's there.
Interesting, ........ is his moustache leaving too ?
No comment from the moustache B-)
Inside sources say Henry Cavill's mustache is currently doing screentests for Kenneth Branagh's upcoming "Death on the Nile".
I think Henry Cavill showed ample charisma and screen presence in The man from UNCLE and Tudors. Superman and Mission Impossible didn't require charisma really. In MI he played a killing machine and superman is an alien.
I honestly think H Cavill is a second name on the bill
Sort of actor. Great in a double act ( TMFU) or with a
Strong leading man ( MI6 ), but he doesn't have that
Magic star quality to be a lead movie star
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I honestly think H Cavill is a second name on the bill
Sort of actor. Great in a double act ( TMFU) or with a
Strong leading man ( MI6 ), but he doesn't have that
Magic star quality to be a lead movie star
Cavill may have missed his chance to shine. The Man From Uncle bombed stateside and that was his big chance to show his leading movie star credentials. The same was true of Iris Elba in The Dark Tower. Despite the hype over Elba's on-screen presence, the movie flopped hard. Elba has yet to establish himself as a leading movie star (one that can generate some decent box office).
To be fair to both actors, a movie can bomb for many reasons - bad marketing, too much competition around at the time of release, bad screenplay/direction etc. These elements are down to studio decisions, but the actor has to show some leading man potential otherwise the studios will look elsewhere for talent. This may be a reason why DC isn't that bothered if Cavill doesn't return as Superman. There's bound to another actor out there waiting for his big break. Brandon Routh was replaced after one Superman movie! He didn't get much chance to prove himself.
I honestly think H Cavill is a second name on the bill
Sort of actor. Great in a double act ( TMFU) or with a
Strong leading man ( MI6 ), but he doesn't have that
Magic star quality to be a lead movie star
I feel the same about Craig. A great second Fiddle but not a leading man. But the very idea of 'leading man' is old fashioned and out of step concept. We don't really have them anymore. That's why Hollywood stars like Clooney and Cruise are all knocking on a bit. Ryan Gosling is about as close as it gets.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Could be true, I'm trying to think of a modern actor who could be
Considered a leading man, in that he could pull in an audience
On just his name above the title ?
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
I honestly think H Cavill is a second name on the bill
Sort of actor. Great in a double act ( TMFU) or with a
Strong leading man ( MI6 ), but he doesn't have that
Magic star quality to be a lead movie star
I feel the same about Craig. A great second Fiddle but not a leading man. But the very idea of 'leading man' is old fashioned and out of step concept. We don't really have them anymore. That's why Hollywood stars like Clooney and Cruise are all knocking on a bit. Ryan Gosling is about as close as it gets.
Craig doesn't really attract people to the cinema unless he's Bond.
I honestly think H Cavill is a second name on the bill
Sort of actor. Great in a double act ( TMFU) or with a
Strong leading man ( MI6 ), but he doesn't have that
Magic star quality to be a lead movie star
I feel the same about Craig. A great second Fiddle but not a leading man. But the very idea of 'leading man' is old fashioned and out of step concept. We don't really have them anymore. That's why Hollywood stars like Clooney and Cruise are all knocking on a bit. Ryan Gosling is about as close as it gets.
Craig doesn't really attract people to the cinema unless he's Bond.
Completely agree with the last point. Henry Cavill wants the part of Bond very badly - look at all the campaigning he's done over the years. YouTube is full of it. Whilst he is thus far not the most charismatic of actors, he is actually pretty charismatic in interviews. If Bond is the part of his dreams then we shouldn't underestimate what he would do in a screen test to a. Win the part and b. Do well in it. I'm not saying this as a Cavill fan, just as an observer who sees that Eon just needs to ask and he'll be there.
Could be true, I'm trying to think of a modern actor who could be
Considered a leading man, in that he could pull in an audience
On just his name above the title ?
Maybe Leo DiCaprio?
LoeffelholzThe United States, With LovePosts: 8,998Quartermasters
I was a Cavill booster back in '05/'06 when he tested for Bond at the tender age of 23 or so...and I have a higher regard for his capabilities as an actor than many of my peers around here - his RSC background tells me that it's probably a mistake to look at how he's played Superman, Napoleon Solo, or the villain from the latest MI picture and extrapolate from that how he would portray James Bond.
As ever, in my opinion it comes down to personal taste...he's my first choice to replace Craigger. As a less conventional choice, I still support Tom Hiddleston, whom I think can put an interesting spin on the role. I'd rather not see Tom Hardy get it, but I won't throw a fit if Eon decides to go shorter than Danny(!)
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"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
I was a Cavill booster back in '05/'06 when he tested for Bond at the tender age of 23 or so...and I have a higher regard for his capabilities as an actor than many of my peers around here - his RSC background tells me that it's probably a mistake to look at how he's played Superman, Napoleon Solo, or the villain from the latest MI picture and extrapolate from that how he would portray James Bond.
As ever, in my opinion it comes down to personal taste...he's my first choice to replace Craigger. As a less conventional choice, I still support Tom Hiddleston, whom I think can put an interesting spin on the role. I'd rather not see Tom Hardy get it, but I won't throw a fit if Eon decides to go shorter than Danny(!)
Cavill's screen test certainly impressed Campbell. I could live with either of them (Cavill or Hiddleston)
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
I honestly think H Cavill is a second name on the bill
Sort of actor. Great in a double act ( TMFU) or with a
Strong leading man ( MI6 ), but he doesn't have that
Magic star quality to be a lead movie star
I feel the same about Craig. A great second Fiddle but not a leading man. But the very idea of 'leading man' is old fashioned and out of step concept. We don't really have them anymore. That's why Hollywood stars like Clooney and Cruise are all knocking on a bit. Ryan Gosling is about as close as it gets.
Craig doesn't really attract people to the cinema unless he's Bond.
That's why I'm a bit mystified as to why Eon were so desperate to keep him. They have history of being very reluctant to change the lead, even with Dalton who was never very popular with the general public (although a superb Bond in my book) it was apparently his decision to go. Bond is and always has been more than the lead. Two of my favourite films star Bonds who failed to chime with the public (no prizes for guessing) I think the disastrous experience with Lazenby left a long legacy.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
I was a Cavill booster back in '05/'06 when he tested for Bond at the tender age of 23 or so...and I have a higher regard for his capabilities as an actor than many of my peers around here - his RSC background tells me that it's probably a mistake to look at how he's played Superman, Napoleon Solo, or the villain from the latest MI picture and extrapolate from that how he would portray James Bond.
As ever, in my opinion it comes down to personal taste...he's my first choice to replace Craigger. As a less conventional choice, I still support Tom Hiddleston, whom I think can put an interesting spin on the role. I'd rather not see Tom Hardy get it, but I won't throw a fit if Eon decides to go shorter than Danny(!)
Cavill's screen test certainly impressed Campbell. I could live with either of them (Cavill or Hiddleston)
same, TH impressed me in both Night Managrr and Skull Island and I have always been an advocate of HC and think both of these would be grateful and appreciate the role as I feel DC doesn't!
Maybe because Craig has been a huge success as Bond and the 4 Bond films he has done revitalized the franchise and raked in a ton of money?
Can't argue with that, his tenure has been phenomenally successful and even as someone with reservations about his portrayal those are incontrovertible facts.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
I was a Cavill booster back in '05/'06 when he tested for Bond at the tender age of 23 or so...and I have a higher regard for his capabilities as an actor than many of my peers around here - his RSC background tells me that it's probably a mistake to look at how he's played Superman, Napoleon Solo, or the villain from the latest MI picture and extrapolate from that how he would portray James Bond.
As ever, in my opinion it comes down to personal taste...he's my first choice to replace Craigger. As a less conventional choice, I still support Tom Hiddleston, whom I think can put an interesting spin on the role. I'd rather not see Tom Hardy get it, but I won't throw a fit if Eon decides to go shorter than Danny(!)
I didn't know Cavill has worked with the RSC - that impresses me! Back in the day when I was a student I had the privilege of staying in a week in Stratford-Upon-Avon. During the day we attended lectures by lpeople from the local college about The Bard and every evening we saw plays at the RSC. It was very interesting. Actors at the RSC are usually working on three Shakespear plays simultanously. One they are reading up on and doing table reads etc, one where they are rehearsing on stage or have just begun showing to the public and one play they have been showing for a while. The instructors are of course top notch. I don't think any actor can do that if they are "wooden".
Well Dalton was RSC and he seemed wooden to me in the role of Bond. I know he tried hard, but even so. It's funny, had Cavill taken over as Bond in CR, only now would it be like he'd have got going, that would be like 25 years playing Bond! You could tire of that.
I have this theory they don't pick a younger guy like Connery when he started because after 3 films he can name his fee and they can't get rid of him for being too old.
And if they did, or he walked, you'd have a guy in his 40s looking quite presentable who might appear still more suited for the role than his incumbent.
That was kind of how it was when Connery left (though no kid and Roger fan would have thought that in the 70s) but not when Moore departed and maybe not Dalton either. It won't be with Craig either as he's getting on a bit.
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Henry Cavill clearly really wants it like Tom Hiddleston once did and Lewis Collins many decades ago. I have yet to be convinced that Cavill has the charisma to match his looks. He's a good age though.
Hardy is such a good actor, he kind of has that DeNiro thing, where he can just transform himself into a character that he could probably pull off Bond....but I agree, 45 is just to old to get started. Cavill sure looks like he could be Bond, but I agree there is something missing. Long shot here, but I wonder if Liam Hemsworth (28) in 4 years might mature into Bond material. His older brother Chris, 35, sure has the charisma and screen presence and in his non-Thor slimmed down state might be interesting but probably way too big a name for EON. Although if EON sells out after 25 to a big studio, I could see them going for a Chris Hemsworth.
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
No comment from the moustache B-)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Not saying he'll be the next Bond. But, you know how the media works.
Or finally, we get that dreamed of sequel to Man From Uncle.
Only kidding
Quite like it.
STIFF!
He hasn't got the swagger quality you associate with Bond. Well pre-Craig Bond, anyway. If he can unleash his inner swagger, who knows, but it's doubtful it's there.
Inside sources say Henry Cavill's mustache is currently doing screentests for Kenneth Branagh's upcoming "Death on the Nile".
I think Henry Cavill showed ample charisma and screen presence in The man from UNCLE and Tudors. Superman and Mission Impossible didn't require charisma really. In MI he played a killing machine and superman is an alien.
Sort of actor. Great in a double act ( TMFU) or with a
Strong leading man ( MI6 ), but he doesn't have that
Magic star quality to be a lead movie star
Cavill may have missed his chance to shine. The Man From Uncle bombed stateside and that was his big chance to show his leading movie star credentials. The same was true of Iris Elba in The Dark Tower. Despite the hype over Elba's on-screen presence, the movie flopped hard. Elba has yet to establish himself as a leading movie star (one that can generate some decent box office).
To be fair to both actors, a movie can bomb for many reasons - bad marketing, too much competition around at the time of release, bad screenplay/direction etc. These elements are down to studio decisions, but the actor has to show some leading man potential otherwise the studios will look elsewhere for talent. This may be a reason why DC isn't that bothered if Cavill doesn't return as Superman. There's bound to another actor out there waiting for his big break. Brandon Routh was replaced after one Superman movie! He didn't get much chance to prove himself.
I feel the same about Craig. A great second Fiddle but not a leading man. But the very idea of 'leading man' is old fashioned and out of step concept. We don't really have them anymore. That's why Hollywood stars like Clooney and Cruise are all knocking on a bit. Ryan Gosling is about as close as it gets.
Considered a leading man, in that he could pull in an audience
On just his name above the title ?
Completely agree with the last point. Henry Cavill wants the part of Bond very badly - look at all the campaigning he's done over the years. YouTube is full of it. Whilst he is thus far not the most charismatic of actors, he is actually pretty charismatic in interviews. If Bond is the part of his dreams then we shouldn't underestimate what he would do in a screen test to a. Win the part and b. Do well in it. I'm not saying this as a Cavill fan, just as an observer who sees that Eon just needs to ask and he'll be there.
Maybe Leo DiCaprio?
As ever, in my opinion it comes down to personal taste...he's my first choice to replace Craigger. As a less conventional choice, I still support Tom Hiddleston, whom I think can put an interesting spin on the role. I'd rather not see Tom Hardy get it, but I won't throw a fit if Eon decides to go shorter than Danny(!)
"I am not an entrant in the Shakespeare Stakes." - Ian Fleming
"Screw 'em." - Daniel Craig, The Best James Bond EverTM
Cavill's screen test certainly impressed Campbell. I could live with either of them (Cavill or Hiddleston)
That's why I'm a bit mystified as to why Eon were so desperate to keep him. They have history of being very reluctant to change the lead, even with Dalton who was never very popular with the general public (although a superb Bond in my book) it was apparently his decision to go. Bond is and always has been more than the lead. Two of my favourite films star Bonds who failed to chime with the public (no prizes for guessing) I think the disastrous experience with Lazenby left a long legacy.
Can't argue with that, his tenure has been phenomenally successful and even as someone with reservations about his portrayal those are incontrovertible facts.
Three are Daniel Craig Bond films. -{
I didn't know Cavill has worked with the RSC - that impresses me! Back in the day when I was a student I had the privilege of staying in a week in Stratford-Upon-Avon. During the day we attended lectures by lpeople from the local college about The Bard and every evening we saw plays at the RSC. It was very interesting. Actors at the RSC are usually working on three Shakespear plays simultanously. One they are reading up on and doing table reads etc, one where they are rehearsing on stage or have just begun showing to the public and one play they have been showing for a while. The instructors are of course top notch. I don't think any actor can do that if they are "wooden".
I have this theory they don't pick a younger guy like Connery when he started because after 3 films he can name his fee and they can't get rid of him for being too old.
And if they did, or he walked, you'd have a guy in his 40s looking quite presentable who might appear still more suited for the role than his incumbent.
That was kind of how it was when Connery left (though no kid and Roger fan would have thought that in the 70s) but not when Moore departed and maybe not Dalton either. It won't be with Craig either as he's getting on a bit.
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