Hi guys, what would you say about Jamie Dornan? He is so sexy and has the "bad look" look. I would love to see him as JB. :x
Dornan is a possibility because he'll pretty much be the perfect age once Craig steps down. I just don't think he's a good leading man at the moment though. As in he doesn't seem to have a lot of charisma or presence as an actor.
Watch him in the Fall or Battle for Jadotville ,totally different from the Fifty Shades crap.
I could see Dornan as Bond. If Bond 26 was released in 2022, he would be 39, so I guess he'd have another 3 Bond films in him.
By the way "The Siege of Jadotville" is an excellent film. I highly recommend it. Dornan is very good in it. It's available on Netflix on demand (and in 4K HDR for those who have 4K HDR TV's).
The new Bond has to be early 30's now. And of course British.
Lazenby was Australian, so there's precedent to go with an Aussie for the role. In that regard, I would opt for Hemsworth. He's only 34 and you could conceivably get 5-7 films out of him before looking for a replacement. I suspect that his tenure as Thor will be ending shortly so he'll probably be looking for for a new franchise.
Some folks around here used to scoff at the idea of Hemsworth as Bond. I think he'd be an interesting choice. From a purely physical standpoint, no one could complain about his height (Hemsworth is 6'3"). There was some issue with his overall size/bulk, but the truth is, when he's not all bulked up to play Thor, Hemsworth is more akin to a more lean, buffed up Connery. Proper accent shouldn't be a problem or the physical stuff. My only question with Hemsworth is can he "embody" Bond. Any decent actor can "play" Bond but "being"
Bond is another thing. When not playing a broadly drawn outlandish "superhero" or fantasy/fairy tail, or historical character does Hemsworth project too much of an Aussie/California Surfer dude vibe to convincingly inhabit Bond? But that's what screen tests are for.
I think it will be an 'unknown,' in the same way Daniel Craig was an unknown. While he'd been on UK TV and the lead in Layer Cake and in a Lara Croft movie, I didn't know his name. I'm guessing most people didn't.
By putting in UK for birthplace, gender male (sorry I don't see a Jane Bond anytime soon), and a birth date between Jan. 1 1990 and 1994, you get someone who is, by 2022, 3 years after Bond25, between 28 and 32 years of age.
Jack O'Connell appears in the search engine's list, but personally I think he is too short for Bond. He's shorter than DC, which is about as short as you want to get. John Boyega appears in the list, but I don't think we'll see a Black Bond, and for the same reason I would rule out Dev Patel who also appears in the list. Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran also appear on the list but I think we can forget them LOL.
So, at the top of the IMDB generated list is a Thomas Brodie-Sangster, who I have never heard of, but he is from the Maze Runner franchise. There is also Frank Dillane from Fear the Walking Dead, but maybe he'll be too well known for that. Eugene Simon is also there, he appeared briefly in Game of Thrones.
The actor who stood out for me is Tom Brittany, he is in Barbara Broccolli's Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool, he's 6ft 2in, born in 1990, so he'll be 32 in 2022, and he looks like he might be able to play Bond.
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In this day and age, any Hollywood A Lister or B Lister will not be Bond. Simply because The House Of Eon cannot afford that level of Salary. They will want a TV / theatre level actor, someone with a solid resume behind them, but little film / movie exposure.
If they have played a lead in any current blockbuster franchise (Cavil, Hemsworth, Hiddleson, Hardy) far less two or more, forget them. Won't happen. Ditto anyone at it near Mr Craig's current age. Bond is not played by that guy who is 'insert character name everyone knows.'
None of us know who will be the next 007. Because they don't exist as a well known name yet.
Daniel Craig is STILL James Bond!
Thomas Brodie Sangster is one of the current bright young thing actors, and he delivers! He started on Love Actually, and been in Dr Who amongst other work. He is the voice of John Tracy in Thunderbirds Are Go.
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Thomas Brodie Sangster is one of the current bright young thing actors, and he delivers! He started on Love Actually, and been in Dr Who amongst other work. He is the voice of John Tracy in Thunderbirds Are Go.
Agree with rest of your post....but Thomas Brodie Sangster? Good young actor. Saw him in the Netflix Mini Series Godless and he was very good. But James Bond? He would really need to grow into his looks and mature significantly. Presently he's basically a skinny, geeky looking guy. Four years from now, could be a different story.
In this day and age, any Hollywood A Lister or B Lister will not be Bond. Simply because The House Of Eon cannot afford that level of Salary. They will want a TV / theatre level actor, someone with a solid resume behind them, but little film / movie exposure.
If they have played a lead in any current blockbuster franchise (Cavil, Hemsworth, Hiddleson, Hardy) far less two or more, forget them. Won't happen. Ditto anyone at it near Mr Craig's current age. Bond is not played by that guy who is 'insert character name everyone knows.'
None of us know who will be the next 007. Because they don't exist as a well known name yet.
Daniel Craig is STILL James Bond!
Thomas Brodie Sangster is one of the current bright young thing actors, and he delivers! He started on Love Actually, and been in Dr Who amongst other work. He is the voice of John Tracy in Thunderbirds Are Go.
You're right they don't exist yet as a well known name, but...
At this stage before Casino, about 2002, Daniel Craig had done Lara Croft:Tom Raider and Road to Perdition, so I think we can narrow the range of possible candidates.
Henry Cavill, who was shortlisted along with DC, had done some UK TV and a Hell Raiser movie by 2005.
Googling the news way back when, the speculation prior to DC's October 2005 official announcement (though he was touted as a candidate http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4416609.stm in April 2005), included, Dougray Scott, Ioan Gruffudd, Colin Farrell, Clive Owen, Ewan Mc Gregor, Eric Bana and Orlando Bloom; all of whom were very well known at the time. And there was also talk of a black Bond.
If November 2022 is the date for Bond26 then maybe we could see the eventual new Bond actor talked of as a candidate from spring 2021, and I'd put money on the individual not being any of today's well known Hollywood Brit actors.
P.S. I don't think salary is an issue with Bond films, I think it's just a case that people bring a lot of baggage if they have been a lead character in other franchises.
I could see Dornan as Bond. If Bond 26 was released in 2022, he would be 39, so I guess he'd have another 3 Bond films in him.
By the way "The Siege of Jadotville" is an excellent film. I highly recommend it. Dornan is very good in it. It's available on Netflix on demand (and in 4K HDR for those who have 4K HDR TV's).
Aiden Turner would also be in his late 30s in 2022 and I think I'd prefer him over Dornan as 007.
Thomas Brodie Sangster is one of the current bright young thing actors, and he delivers! He started on Love Actually, and been in Dr Who amongst other work. He is the voice of John Tracy in Thunderbirds Are Go.
Agree with rest of your post....but Thomas Brodie Sangster? Good young actor. Saw him in the Netflix Mini Series Godless and he was very good. But James Bond? He would really need to grow into his looks and mature significantly. Presently he's basically a skinny, geeky looking guy. Four years from now, could be a different story.
I'm NOT suggesting Mr Brodie Sangster is a possible future Bond. I was just clarifying who he is.
Mr Craig is Bond now, so that is all that counts.
Just wish they'd give him a Bloddy decent script!!
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I could see Dornan as Bond. If Bond 26 was released in 2022, he would be 39, so I guess he'd have another 3 Bond films in him.
By the way "The Siege of Jadotville" is an excellent film. I highly recommend it. Dornan is very good in it. It's available on Netflix on demand (and in 4K HDR for those who have 4K HDR TV's).
Aiden Turner would also be in his late 30s in 2022 and I think I'd prefer him over Dornan as 007.
I am mystified why people persist in proposing people who are too old, i.e. Tom Ellis, or very well known actors, Dornan and Turner, who will also be too old, because, a, since Brosnan history shows well known actors are not of interest to Barbara Broccoli, and, b, with a likely future of a Bond film every 3 years, a new Bond is going to be in the role for 12-15 years and a 50-something Bond is not popular/credible. Brosnan was pushed out when he was 49.
It's also likely that any Hollywood studio will want Bond26 to be another reboot, as it's how they operate these days.
The current cultural climate has made it very hard to cast a new Bond. This is probably why EON was so desperate to avoid that predicament and bring back DC. Replacing him is nearly impossible because a very vocal portion of the media will deride the selection of a white male to play the role, yet most fans have no desire to see Bond turn into a progressive political stunt. I think in the end this will motivate Babs to sell and let it become someone else’s problem.
The current cultural climate has made it very hard to cast a new Bond. This is probably why EON was so desperate to avoid that predicament and bring back DC. Replacing him is nearly impossible because a very vocal portion of the media will deride the selection of a white male to play the role, yet most fans have no desire to see Bond turn into a progressive political stunt. I think in the end this will motivate Babs to sell and let it become someone else’s problem.
It's as good a theory as any but I have a different take.
I don't believe the "current cultural climate" had that much to do with EON wanting Craig to return. More like the $$$$ climate was the driving force. I think they believed that Craig had another one in him, the public who buy the tickets like Craig very much as Bond, one more with Craig pretty much guarantees big money at the box office which would also help in cutting a more favorable deal with a new distributor. I believe if EON sells it will be based upon financial gain and Barbara just wanting to move on and do other things rather than what race or gender is cast as Bond.
DC was 37 when he was cast and that was "Bond Begins" 8-)
Being 38 and just starting out as Bond and becoming the character made no sense. And now making his fifth Bond film at 50 years old (and appearing to be 50 years old since his 3rd Bond film) teaches us that the next Bond actor needs to start younger.
DC was 37 when he was cast and that was "Bond Begins" 8-)
Being 38 and just starting out as Bond and becoming the character made no sense. And now making his fifth Bond film at 50 years old (and appearing to be 50 years old since his 3rd Bond film) teaches us that the next Bond actor needs to start younger.
As for age, leaves university at 21 goes to BRNC for 12 months, promoted to Sub Lt 22, 30 months then promoted to Lt 24-25, 4-8 years at Lt, so average it out at 6 years ,30 for promotion to Lt Cdr. At least two tours at the rank of Lt Cdr including one staff posting , 6 years before promotion to Cdr earliest ,one tour at that rank before poaching by MI 6 ,age 39 at start of Int career before Double O status , maybe 40 at youngest.
As for age, leaves university at 21 goes to BRNC for 12 months, promoted to Sub Lt 22, 30 months then promoted to Lt 24-25, 4-8 years at Lt, so average it out at 6 years ,30 for promotion to Lt Cdr. At least two tours at the rank of Lt Cdr including one staff posting , 6 years before promotion to Cdr earliest ,one tour at that rank before poaching by MI 6 ,age 39 at start of Int career before Double O status , maybe 40 at youngest.
I would imagine casting James Bond must be the job with the highest stakes in Hollywood considering that the entire franchise depends on one actor’s charisma.
Casting mistakes can have huge consequences. I’m eager to see the new Han Solo film, for instance, but the trailer doesn’t fill me with hope that Alden Ehrenreich is going to be able to pull off the role. There hasn’t been a young Harrison Ford since...Harrison Ford.
It makes me appreciate what Chris Pine did in the Star Trek reboots. He managed to embody the swagger and haminess of Shatner’s Kirk while putting his own stamp on the role.
As for age, leaves university at 21 goes to BRNC for 12 months, promoted to Sub Lt 22, 30 months then promoted to Lt 24-25, 4-8 years at Lt, so average it out at 6 years ,30 for promotion to Lt Cdr. At least two tours at the rank of Lt Cdr including one staff posting , 6 years before promotion to Cdr earliest ,one tour at that rank before poaching by MI 6 ,age 39 at start of Int career before Double O status , maybe 40 at youngest.
Ian Fleming became a Commander a few months after joining the Royal Navy at the age of 31, and surely he intended Bond to be the same. Bond is also not a normal person, so why should he be held to the normal timeline?
A bigger issue is his emotional development. He's portrayed in the CR film like he's only 25. The film was not written for a 38-year-old.
that's a thing in itself: Fleming had Bond as being perpetually in his mid30s. They can't do that trick in film. They can hire someone in his mid30s, and for one film he's true-to-Fleming. Then they do one film every other year. Or every four years in Craig's case.
so they maybe should pick someone young and precocious, who can act mid30s when he's still mid20s. Matt Smith sort of pulled that trick in Doctor Who. A good actor can do that.
And who can guess how the actor will naturally age? Connery looked older in Diamonds... than Moore did in A View..., yet Moore was always two years older than his predecessor. Maybe the Broccoli's should look real close at the actor's parents and other older family members? like animal breeders selecting for good genes.
As for age, leaves university at 21 goes to BRNC for 12 months, promoted to Sub Lt 22, 30 months then promoted to Lt 24-25, 4-8 years at Lt, so average it out at 6 years ,30 for promotion to Lt Cdr. At least two tours at the rank of Lt Cdr including one staff posting , 6 years before promotion to Cdr earliest ,one tour at that rank before poaching by MI 6 ,age 39 at start of Int career before Double O status , maybe 40 at youngest.
Ian Fleming became a Commander a few months after joining the Royal Navy at the age of 31, and surely he intended Bond to be the same. Bond is also not a normal person, so why should he be held to the normal timeline?
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Wartime, totally different, dead mens shoes /special recruitment , I have a friend who has been promoted from Flying Officer to Flt Lt fifteen months early ,acting paid, so not in line for seniority until in post for 15 months. Remember Commander rank is equivalent to Lt Col or Wing Commander, senior ranks in army would be in command of a battalion or in Royal Marines possibly OC SBS, not an operator.
I myself would like Bond 7 to be about 40 and just do 3 great standalone films using the last 3 remaining Fleming titles and with no angst or personnel drama! So bond 26 bond is 40, 27 aged 43/44 and Bond 28 46/47. Clive Standen IMO would be perfect!
How would people feel if the next Bond was a motion capture performance using CGI to recreate Fleming's physical description of Bond which was that 007 looked like the 1940s American singer and actor, Hoagy Carmichael?
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No, me neither, certainly not as Bond.
Watch him in the Fall or Battle for Jadotville ,totally different from the Fifty Shades crap.
By the way "The Siege of Jadotville" is an excellent film. I highly recommend it. Dornan is very good in it. It's available on Netflix on demand (and in 4K HDR for those who have 4K HDR TV's).
I still go for Aidan Turner. Nicolas Hoult is also an option for some reason. Cavill would be great, but I think he is already too famous.
1. Connery 2. Craig 3. Brosnan 4. Dalton 5. Lazenby 6. Moore
Some folks around here used to scoff at the idea of Hemsworth as Bond. I think he'd be an interesting choice. From a purely physical standpoint, no one could complain about his height (Hemsworth is 6'3"). There was some issue with his overall size/bulk, but the truth is, when he's not all bulked up to play Thor, Hemsworth is more akin to a more lean, buffed up Connery. Proper accent shouldn't be a problem or the physical stuff. My only question with Hemsworth is can he "embody" Bond. Any decent actor can "play" Bond but "being"
Bond is another thing. When not playing a broadly drawn outlandish "superhero" or fantasy/fairy tail, or historical character does Hemsworth project too much of an Aussie/California Surfer dude vibe to convincingly inhabit Bond? But that's what screen tests are for.
To find possible Bond26 candidates, IMDB has a really good advanced search engine.
http://www.imdb.com/search/name
By putting in UK for birthplace, gender male (sorry I don't see a Jane Bond anytime soon), and a birth date between Jan. 1 1990 and 1994, you get someone who is, by 2022, 3 years after Bond25, between 28 and 32 years of age.
Jack O'Connell appears in the search engine's list, but personally I think he is too short for Bond. He's shorter than DC, which is about as short as you want to get. John Boyega appears in the list, but I don't think we'll see a Black Bond, and for the same reason I would rule out Dev Patel who also appears in the list. Sam Smith and Ed Sheeran also appear on the list but I think we can forget them LOL.
So, at the top of the IMDB generated list is a Thomas Brodie-Sangster, who I have never heard of, but he is from the Maze Runner franchise. There is also Frank Dillane from Fear the Walking Dead, but maybe he'll be too well known for that. Eugene Simon is also there, he appeared briefly in Game of Thrones.
The actor who stood out for me is Tom Brittany, he is in Barbara Broccolli's Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool, he's 6ft 2in, born in 1990, so he'll be 32 in 2022, and he looks like he might be able to play Bond.
If they have played a lead in any current blockbuster franchise (Cavil, Hemsworth, Hiddleson, Hardy) far less two or more, forget them. Won't happen. Ditto anyone at it near Mr Craig's current age. Bond is not played by that guy who is 'insert character name everyone knows.'
None of us know who will be the next 007. Because they don't exist as a well known name yet.
Daniel Craig is STILL James Bond!
Thomas Brodie Sangster is one of the current bright young thing actors, and he delivers! He started on Love Actually, and been in Dr Who amongst other work. He is the voice of John Tracy in Thunderbirds Are Go.
Agree with rest of your post....but Thomas Brodie Sangster? Good young actor. Saw him in the Netflix Mini Series Godless and he was very good. But James Bond? He would really need to grow into his looks and mature significantly. Presently he's basically a skinny, geeky looking guy. Four years from now, could be a different story.
You're right they don't exist yet as a well known name, but...
At this stage before Casino, about 2002, Daniel Craig had done Lara Croft:Tom Raider and Road to Perdition, so I think we can narrow the range of possible candidates.
Henry Cavill, who was shortlisted along with DC, had done some UK TV and a Hell Raiser movie by 2005.
Googling the news way back when, the speculation prior to DC's October 2005 official announcement (though he was touted as a candidate http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4416609.stm in April 2005), included, Dougray Scott, Ioan Gruffudd, Colin Farrell, Clive Owen, Ewan Mc Gregor, Eric Bana and Orlando Bloom; all of whom were very well known at the time. And there was also talk of a black Bond.
If November 2022 is the date for Bond26 then maybe we could see the eventual new Bond actor talked of as a candidate from spring 2021, and I'd put money on the individual not being any of today's well known Hollywood Brit actors.
P.S. I don't think salary is an issue with Bond films, I think it's just a case that people bring a lot of baggage if they have been a lead character in other franchises.
Aiden Turner would also be in his late 30s in 2022 and I think I'd prefer him over Dornan as 007.
I'm NOT suggesting Mr Brodie Sangster is a possible future Bond. I was just clarifying who he is.
Mr Craig is Bond now, so that is all that counts.
Just wish they'd give him a Bloddy decent script!!
I am mystified why people persist in proposing people who are too old, i.e. Tom Ellis, or very well known actors, Dornan and Turner, who will also be too old, because, a, since Brosnan history shows well known actors are not of interest to Barbara Broccoli, and, b, with a likely future of a Bond film every 3 years, a new Bond is going to be in the role for 12-15 years and a 50-something Bond is not popular/credible. Brosnan was pushed out when he was 49.
It's also likely that any Hollywood studio will want Bond26 to be another reboot, as it's how they operate these days.
Max Iron's in a few years I think would make a good Bond.
He'll be 37 in 2022. I have my doubts they will pick anyone over 35.
It's as good a theory as any but I have a different take.
I don't believe the "current cultural climate" had that much to do with EON wanting Craig to return. More like the $$$$ climate was the driving force. I think they believed that Craig had another one in him, the public who buy the tickets like Craig very much as Bond, one more with Craig pretty much guarantees big money at the box office which would also help in cutting a more favorable deal with a new distributor. I believe if EON sells it will be based upon financial gain and Barbara just wanting to move on and do other things rather than what race or gender is cast as Bond.
Being 38 and just starting out as Bond and becoming the character made no sense. And now making his fifth Bond film at 50 years old (and appearing to be 50 years old since his 3rd Bond film) teaches us that the next Bond actor needs to start younger.
What about the guy from poldark Aidan turner?
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Well said!!!
Yeah, but it's a film...
Casting mistakes can have huge consequences. I’m eager to see the new Han Solo film, for instance, but the trailer doesn’t fill me with hope that Alden Ehrenreich is going to be able to pull off the role. There hasn’t been a young Harrison Ford since...Harrison Ford.
It makes me appreciate what Chris Pine did in the Star Trek reboots. He managed to embody the swagger and haminess of Shatner’s Kirk while putting his own stamp on the role.
Ian Fleming became a Commander a few months after joining the Royal Navy at the age of 31, and surely he intended Bond to be the same. Bond is also not a normal person, so why should he be held to the normal timeline?
A bigger issue is his emotional development. He's portrayed in the CR film like he's only 25. The film was not written for a 38-year-old.
so they maybe should pick someone young and precocious, who can act mid30s when he's still mid20s. Matt Smith sort of pulled that trick in Doctor Who. A good actor can do that.
And who can guess how the actor will naturally age? Connery looked older in Diamonds... than Moore did in A View..., yet Moore was always two years older than his predecessor. Maybe the Broccoli's should look real close at the actor's parents and other older family members? like animal breeders selecting for good genes.
Wartime, totally different, dead mens shoes /special recruitment , I have a friend who has been promoted from Flying Officer to Flt Lt fifteen months early ,acting paid, so not in line for seniority until in post for 15 months. Remember Commander rank is equivalent to Lt Col or Wing Commander, senior ranks in army would be in command of a battalion or in Royal Marines possibly OC SBS, not an operator.