Has one never been used in a title sequence? Ive read about the coated one in your book, but for some reason I have a recollection of a nickel or ss one elsewhere in a title sequence? Maybe a Mandela memory effect.
They did a stainless and aluminium (duralumin) version. Last of Zellas manufacture, or early Manhurin using the old tooling. Very rare and with no serial numbers. Whether it was a dropped experimental design, or issued is open to debate. But they did make them.
I would like to see evidence of the use of SS in either ZM or Ulm produced PP series pistol. I know all about the Lichtmetal version. It used a carbon steel slide.
Has one never been used in a title sequence? Ive read about the coated one in your book, but for some reason I have a recollection of a nickel or ss one elsewhere in a title sequence? Maybe a Mandela memory effect.
Bond has never used a Ranger manufactured SS PPK in any movie, and Walther Germany does not manufacture SS firearms. Ever.
Here's another walther firearm made in Germany that is stainless
And another
The very last walther pp known as the last ditch were also produced without blueing
The P88 PAK is not a firearm and chrome or nickel plating is not stainless steel.
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Collecting PPK's and other rare combat handguns was a passion of mine before Bond as they were part of my career for a few of the best years of my life. I've got loads of rare PPK models from factory SD to military issued ones. The Stainless Zella was a grail of mine for some years. I know they made them and I know it has a SS slide. I've got one...
Looks like electroless nickel to me. But I will take your word for it.
I have nothing on paper in my Walther library that mentions one word of a SS pistol having been produced, even as a prototype or experimental.
I think Dieter Marschall would be quite interested in this example of yours. Does he know this is in your collection? If not, he posts regularly on the Walther forum for which I know you are a member.
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It's not nickel. I thought it was and put it on the laser to test the composition. It was pretty scratched when it was first obtained some years back and was bead blasted to clean it up. It's also been deactivated for public display and it's solid SS. My other passion is collecting SOE memoribilia and it came from an SOE operative along with other rare ordnance. He also had a PPK with a slide lock on it, which was presumably to improve its function suppressed. No serial number or any proof marks at all on either of them.
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Higgins (surprisingly given his anti gun posts) has a few contacts high up in the Walther hierarchy, so whe I get around to it I may get him to check things out further. But The Royal Armouries seem to be aware of this variant as they have a few PPK anomalies in their collection too.
I was never aware there actually variants of the PPK. There's a gun show coming up early next month here and i'll be keeping an eye out. Any tell tale signs I should look out for?
Bond has never used a Ranger manufactured SS PPK in any movie, and Walther Germany does not manufacture SS firearms. Ever.
Here's another walther firearm made in Germany that is stainless
And another
The very last walther pp known as the last ditch were also produced without blueing
The P88 PAK is not a firearm and chrome or nickel plating is not stainless steel.
That p88 pak is classed as a section 1 firearm under UK laws.
Also the ccp has a stainless derivative which is manufactured in Germany.
Simple fact is your statement is incorrect I'm afraid old boy.
Here's another walther firearm made in Germany that is stainless
And another
The very last walther pp known as the last ditch were also produced without blueing
The P88 PAK is not a firearm and chrome or nickel plating is not stainless steel.
That p88 pak is classed as a section 1 firearm under UK laws.
Also the ccp has a stainless derivative which is manufactured in Germany.
Simple fact is your statement is incorrect I'm afraid old boy.
In the US it's just a gas gun and is not considered a firearm. The CCP is manufactured by Umarex in Arnsberg, not Walther, Ulm. Walther, the real Walther, does not make a stainless steel pistol.
Higgins (surprisingly given his anti gun posts) has a few contacts high up in the Walther hierarchy, so whe I get around to it I may get him to check things out further. But The Royal Armouries seem to be aware of this variant as they have a few PPK anomalies in their collection too.
I'll not stress my long-built friendships for such a nonsense... 8-)
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The P88 PAK is not a firearm and chrome or nickel plating is not stainless steel.
That p88 pak is classed as a section 1 firearm under UK laws.
Also the ccp has a stainless derivative which is manufactured in Germany.
Simple fact is your statement is incorrect I'm afraid old boy.
In the US it's just a gas gun and is not considered a firearm. The CCP is manufactured by Umarex in Arnsberg, not Walther, Ulm. Walther, the real Walther, does not make a stainless steel pistol.
It was either that.....or the priesthood
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Of course, there are cooler stainless things than PPK's...
I also have one of the new ones in .22 with 007 in the serial number
007 in the serial number! That's very cool! Do you find the 22lr version is picky with ammunition? My 22 would jam every few rounds with bulk ammo but ran flawless with hotter loads like CCI Mini Mag, it inevitably led to me selling it.
That is true, but both (and many more) do manufacture firearms that use air and cordite / black powder as propellants. So technically your sweeping statement is subjective. As this is also an international forum, in some countries air weapons over a certain fps muzzle velocity are classified as firearms and subject to firearms law and legislation and to own such a firearm you would need a firearms licence. There are also firearm manufacturers who modify cordite firing firearms into co2 powered weapons. These guns are also considered firearms as they are easily modified back into cordite powered guns. So your statement depends on your own definition of a firearm and tbe particular company you have issue with. Just as a side note in the UK firearms licenses are quite strictly enforced and can be revoked for many reasons one such reason would be a holder of a licence posting pictures of himself pointing guns at cameras, with this in mind and the fact I've seen the results of fatal shootings it may explain why you amd I struggle to agree on many things. I say this in a spirit of no animosity.
That p88 pak is classed as a section 1 firearm under UK laws.
Also the ccp has a stainless derivative which is manufactured in Germany.
Simple fact is your statement is incorrect I'm afraid old boy.
In the US it's just a gas gun and is not considered a firearm. The CCP is manufactured by Umarex in Arnsberg, not Walther, Ulm. Walther, the real Walther, does not make a stainless steel pistol.
Since when has a blank fire pak weapon been under section 1 of UK gun law as it is for rifled long barreled weapons ie rifles.
Blank weapons are unlicenced so long as they are in "Post Office Friendly" colours or in natural black if you can provide a defence agaist the VCR act. or so I'm lead to believe.
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Not according to ASP & Minigeff, the Ladies Gun was a Beretta 418 where this is clearly...NOT!
I thought the same thing, then it hit me
I would like to see evidence of the use of SS in either ZM or Ulm produced PP series pistol. I know all about the Lichtmetal version. It used a carbon steel slide.
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The P88 PAK is not a firearm and chrome or nickel plating is not stainless steel.
I have nothing on paper in my Walther library that mentions one word of a SS pistol having been produced, even as a prototype or experimental.
I think Dieter Marschall would be quite interested in this example of yours. Does he know this is in your collection? If not, he posts regularly on the Walther forum for which I know you are a member.
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Also the ccp has a stainless derivative which is manufactured in Germany.
Simple fact is your statement is incorrect I'm afraid old boy.
In the US it's just a gas gun and is not considered a firearm. The CCP is manufactured by Umarex in Arnsberg, not Walther, Ulm. Walther, the real Walther, does not make a stainless steel pistol.
I'll not stress my long-built friendships for such a nonsense... 8-)
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How widely used by the government were these in its 20 odd year manufacturing run?
I also thought stainless suited the Beretta 92 better.
Cool as f**k -{
I also have one of the new ones in .22 with 007 in the serial number
007 in the serial number! That's very cool! Do you find the 22lr version is picky with ammunition? My 22 would jam every few rounds with bulk ammo but ran flawless with hotter loads like CCI Mini Mag, it inevitably led to me selling it.
Blank weapons are unlicenced so long as they are in "Post Office Friendly" colours or in natural black if you can provide a defence agaist the VCR act. or so I'm lead to believe.