Ian Fleming states in no uncertain terms that "Bond is not a qourmand".
No, he doesn't- he says that Bond is not a gourmet- there's a difference!
Yes, quite right: according to the Cambridge Dictionary: Gourmet: a person who knows a lot about food and cooking, and who enjoys eating high-quality food
Gourmand: a person who enjoys eating large amounts of food.
"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech
I'm not sure I agree with you there, 0073. A 'beer-guy' imo is someone who prefers beer or habitually drinks beer. The Bond of the novels is essentially a spirits drinker, although he consumes champagne just as much as whisky in its various guises which is his most-consumed spirit. Sure he has had a beer, but it's usually for local colour or when little else is available. But that's different from being a 'beer-guy' in my opinion. {[]
Exactly; Bond is not a beer-guy, I never said he were, I only said that we should not consider beer as out of his scope. But saying that he is or is not a whisky-guy, a wino (well maybe not a wino) or champagne-guy is over simplification. He will drink, what he finds appropriate for the moment, but it is true that he does prefer hard spirits, when appropriate. And as for beer, he drinks enough of it, that we can safely say that he is a habitual beer consumer, when in the right environments. And that includes SE-England.
"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech
I re-read my posts in this thread, and realized that I come off as a bit(?) of a fundamentalist. 8-) 8-)
So let me try to make things a little bit clearer: The OP posted a valid question, "What beer for Bond?". Since it has been established that Bond does indeed drink (an occasional) beer, both in the novels as well as in the movies, it is not an unreasonable question. It is not fair to the OP to just go off and say that "Bond's not a beer guy", and be done with it.
Now that is what riled me in this thread in the first place.
Then I tried to hijack this thread with an off topic tirade on what Bond drinks and whether he's a "beer-guy" (doing my best Al Pacino impression from the "Scent"). And for this I am sorry.
Now, with that cleared up: 1)Bond drinks (occasionally) a beer or two. 2) He is known to favour lagers. 3) We know his taste in beer is definitely "international" as in "not British beer" (Löwenbrau, Miller High Life, Red Stripe etc.). With that in mind; What would be his choices today, I understand if people say Heineken, it is not entirely without merit. It was perfectly cast beer when the setting is considered, much more so than the rare and expensive MaCallan at the beach bar. Cutty Sark from the same parent group would have been a much more appropriate for that scene.
Do you think, that his choice would be always something easy, or would he be willing to try some of the fashionable micro brands with their artesanal offerings.
Cheers.
"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech
Agreed. I actually like the scene, because it's a bit of a knock against Budweiser, as soon as the waitress sets it down he smacks a goon's head against the table and spills it. I like to think part of it was out of disgust at the idea of having to drink that swill
Dalton's Bond strikes me as the kind of guy who, if he had to drink beer, would go for something Belgian
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No, he doesn't- he says that Bond is not a gourmet- there's a difference!
Yes, quite right: according to the Cambridge Dictionary: Gourmet: a person who knows a lot about food and cooking, and who enjoys eating high-quality food
Gourmand: a person who enjoys eating large amounts of food.
-Mr Arlington Beech
Exactly; Bond is not a beer-guy, I never said he were, I only said that we should not consider beer as out of his scope. But saying that he is or is not a whisky-guy, a wino (well maybe not a wino) or champagne-guy is over simplification. He will drink, what he finds appropriate for the moment, but it is true that he does prefer hard spirits, when appropriate. And as for beer, he drinks enough of it, that we can safely say that he is a habitual beer consumer, when in the right environments. And that includes SE-England.
-Mr Arlington Beech
I re-read my posts in this thread, and realized that I come off as a bit(?) of a fundamentalist. 8-) 8-)
So let me try to make things a little bit clearer: The OP posted a valid question, "What beer for Bond?". Since it has been established that Bond does indeed drink (an occasional) beer, both in the novels as well as in the movies, it is not an unreasonable question. It is not fair to the OP to just go off and say that "Bond's not a beer guy", and be done with it.
Now that is what riled me in this thread in the first place.
Then I tried to hijack this thread with an off topic tirade on what Bond drinks and whether he's a "beer-guy" (doing my best Al Pacino impression from the "Scent"). And for this I am sorry.
Now, with that cleared up: 1)Bond drinks (occasionally) a beer or two. 2) He is known to favour lagers. 3) We know his taste in beer is definitely "international" as in "not British beer" (Löwenbrau, Miller High Life, Red Stripe etc.). With that in mind; What would be his choices today, I understand if people say Heineken, it is not entirely without merit. It was perfectly cast beer when the setting is considered, much more so than the rare and expensive MaCallan at the beach bar. Cutty Sark from the same parent group would have been a much more appropriate for that scene.
Do you think, that his choice would be always something easy, or would he be willing to try some of the fashionable micro brands with their artesanal offerings.
Cheers.
-Mr Arlington Beech
Lazenby - Hefeweizen
Moore - Bitter
Dalton - Trappist Ale
Brosnan - Dry Stout
Craig - Adjunct Lager
Bond: Pierce Brosnan Villain: Hugo Drax Girl: Pam Bouvier
Since I'm effectively AJB's man in Scotland, can I ask- what's this, and where can you buy it?
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/77/
http://apbateman.com
Bond: Pierce Brosnan Villain: Hugo Drax Girl: Pam Bouvier
Dalton's Bond strikes me as the kind of guy who, if he had to drink beer, would go for something Belgian
Bond: Pierce Brosnan Villain: Hugo Drax Girl: Pam Bouvier
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