I know but what did you mean by having a special PPK that would have it's hammer cocked all the time?
Wouldn't that make it DAO? That's why I asked.
No, a double action only pistol only has a two stage trigger, ie pulling the trigger first cocks the hammer the second releases it. The ppk can be fired with single action if you first **** the hammer manually or by racking the slide, then the trigger just releases it, but as it uses blowback which is the gasses created by firing a cartridge force the slide back which cocks the hammer then the slide is returned forward with use of a recoil spring which sits around the fixed barrel to facilitate re cocking the hammer as it's semi automatic, while all that is happening the spent cartridge is ejected and the spring in the magazine pushes up a new cartridge ( if you've adequately maintained your mag) and your good to go again.
The ppk is a da/sa pistol only needing da for the first shot.
If you notice, Dc tends to **** his ppk quite often in the films, and uses both racking and his thumb, I think Asp is making the point that the cocked stunt gun he asked for just allows greater continuity in the film. DC also de cocks his ppk regularly.
It's good practice to **** a ppk for a first shot as you need less effort to squeeze the trigger and so have greater accuracy and quicker response, that first shot may be the only one you get.
Still don't understand why he'd need a special pistol for that unless they made the safety to a de-cocker only.
Yes, and that's something that I really like as I think that the PPK wasn't showcased and used enough in older films.
Love DC's trigger discipline throughout but if you took a look at his finger after the train fell beside him, you can see that it's out of the trigger guard.
He certainly can do a whole lot with his little finger. No wonder he cherishes it that much.
I may be wrong but I think he asked for a rubber stunt gun with a cocked hammer, all the previous ones had the hammer down. So his rubber gun would be in an accurate state when needs be.
I may be wrong but I think he asked for a rubber stunt gun with a cocked hammer, all the previous ones had the hammer down. So his rubber gun would be in an accurate state when needs be.
Spot on CC. Previously you could spot a stunt because the weapon was usually cast uncocked with the safety on. DC requested a pistol be cast in the cocked position so not only was the hammer cocked but the trigger was cast further back towards the frame as a real pistol is when cocked. Additionally the safety was cast in the off position. For Skyfall some of the stunts also had genuine Walther grips -{
I may be wrong but I think he asked for a rubber stunt gun with a cocked hammer, all the previous ones had the hammer down. So his rubber gun would be in an accurate state when needs be.
Spot on CC. Previously you could spot a stunt because the weapon was usually cast uncocked with the safety on. DC requested a pistol be cast in the cocked position so not only was the hammer cocked but the trigger was cast further back towards the frame as a real pistol is when cocked. Additionally the safety was cast in the off position. For Skyfall some of the stunts also had genuine Walther grips -{
Which stands to reason given the quality of modern photography and the amount of time dc spends with ppk in hand.
Still don't understand why he'd need a special pistol for that unless they made the safety to a de-cocker only.
Yes, and that's something that I really like as I think that the PPK wasn't showcased and used enough in older films.
Love DC's trigger discipline throughout but if you took a look at his finger after the train fell beside him, you can see that it's out of the trigger guard.
He certainly can do a whole lot with his little finger. No wonder he cherishes it that much.
Yup DC manipulates his ppk far more than any previous bond, he is regularly seen racking the slide, de cocking etc and I'm pretty sure when he leaves Ronsons flat in SF he de cocks and applies the safety before holstering. RM Bond must have walked around with his safety off as he seems able to draw and fire I think he only ever thumbed the hammer when he was with Rosie?
Still don't understand why he'd need a special pistol for that unless they made the safety to a de-cocker only.
Yes, and that's something that I really like as I think that the PPK wasn't showcased and used enough in older films.
Love DC's trigger discipline throughout but if you took a look at his finger after the train fell beside him, you can see that it's out of the trigger guard.
He certainly can do a whole lot with his little finger. No wonder he cherishes it that much.
Yup DC manipulates his ppk far more than any previous bond, he is regularly seen racking the slide, de cocking etc and I'm pretty sure when he leaves Ronsons flat in SF he de cocks and applies the safety before holstering. RM Bond must have walked around with his safety off as he seems able to draw and fire I think he only ever thumbed the hammer when he was with Rosie?
He also thumbed it after Scaramanga's assassination at the bottoms up.
After the corkscrew jump, he draws it and I think he moved his thumb on the hammer but never actually de-cocked it as it's up when he goes to shoot the gate.
At least he had a better holster than Dalton who also carried it ****-loaded.
The rubber stunt prop clears things up, thank you!
When the late Richard Hooper's company Crowntower Ltd took over the supply of weapons and handlers on Casino Royale JS taught Craig correct weapons procedures which brought added realism to the big screen. In all Craig's four Bond movies there was only ever one major continuity error featuring Craig firing a weapon & this was on the qualifying range on Skyfall where a 7.65mm fired too many rounds at the target. The fook up with Patrice firing a bolt action rifle semi-automatic was down to the Effects Department who thought it would be a good idea to fit squibs (SFX charges) in the ceiling above where Bond & Patrice would fight for possession of the assassin's rifle. On SPECTRE Swann fired 6 rounds & was then out ammunition to take the kill shot at Hinx but the slide remained in the cocked position ....whoopsy!
When the late Richard Hooper's company Crowntower Ltd took over the supply of weapons and handlers on Casino Royale JS taught Craig correct weapons procedures which brought added realism to the big screen. In all Craig's four Bond movies there was only ever one major continuity error featuring Craig firing a weapon & this was on the qualifying range on Skyfall where a 7.65mm fired too many rounds at the target. The fook up with Patrice firing a bolt action rifle semi-automatic was down to the Effects Department who thought it would be a good idea to fit squibs (SFX charges) in the ceiling above where Bond & Patrice would fight for possession of the assassin's rifle. On SPECTRE Swann fired 6 rounds & was then out ammunition to take the kill shot at Hinx but the slide remained in the cocked position ....whoopsy!
I noticed all of those except Patrices bolt action! and swanns number of shots, this photo always intrigues me, what's going on here?
When the late Richard Hooper's company Crowntower Ltd took over the supply of weapons and handlers on Casino Royale JS taught Craig correct weapons procedures which brought added realism to the big screen. In all Craig's four Bond movies there was only ever one major continuity error featuring Craig firing a weapon & this was on the qualifying range on Skyfall where a 7.65mm fired too many rounds at the target. The fook up with Patrice firing a bolt action rifle semi-automatic was down to the Effects Department who thought it would be a good idea to fit squibs (SFX charges) in the ceiling above where Bond & Patrice would fight for possession of the assassin's rifle. On SPECTRE Swann fired 6 rounds & was then out ammunition to take the kill shot at Hinx but the slide remained in the cocked position ....whoopsy!
I noticed all of those except Patrices bolt action! and swanns number of shots, this photo always intrigues me, what's going on here?
There is a story behind this image & all I can say it is along the lines of a certain pair of gloves on the Pinewood Shanghai set!
When the late Richard Hooper's company Crowntower Ltd took over the supply of weapons and handlers on Casino Royale JS taught Craig correct weapons procedures which brought added realism to the big screen. In all Craig's four Bond movies there was only ever one major continuity error featuring Craig firing a weapon & this was on the qualifying range on Skyfall where a 7.65mm fired too many rounds at the target. The fook up with Patrice firing a bolt action rifle semi-automatic was down to the Effects Department who thought it would be a good idea to fit squibs (SFX charges) in the ceiling above where Bond & Patrice would fight for possession of the assassin's rifle. On SPECTRE Swann fired 6 rounds & was then out ammunition to take the kill shot at Hinx but the slide remained in the cocked position ....whoopsy!
I noticed all of those except Patrices bolt action! and swanns number of shots, this photo always intrigues me, what's going on here?
There is a story behind this image & all I can say it is along the lines of a certain pair of gloves on the Pinewood Shanghai set!
Oh right, I have never been able to.work out a reason for the ppk to be in that position unless there was a deleted scene where bond shot his 7 or 8 or 10 if he's carrying a. 22 lr?? Christ why has bonds gun changed mag capacity so much? " you're 6 to my 1", " you've had you're 8 now have my 80"
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Speaking of guns, I've spent most of today listening to some of our boys firing a few grands worth of shells on the range, 4 hours so far and the smell of cordite is thick.
I noticed all of those except Patrices bolt action! and swanns number of shots, this photo always intrigues me, what's going on here?
There is a story behind this image & all I can say it is along the lines of a certain pair of gloves on the Pinewood Shanghai set!
Oh right, I have never been able to.work out a reason for the ppk to be in that position unless there was a deleted scene where bond shot his 7 or 8 or 10 if he's carrying a. 22 lr?? Christ why has bonds gun changed mag capacity so much? " you're 6 to my 1", " you've had you're 8 now have my 80"
Now Brad Whitaker that clearly was a c*ck up as the Colt Commando's clearly visible maximum magazine capacity was just 30 rounds & I know the guys responsible for it!
Can anyone help me locate an empty set photo of the Skyfall firing range? I'm starting to work on a new video and have an idea I'd like to try and my googling is coming up empty
Can anyone help me locate an empty set photo of the Skyfall firing range? I'm starting to work on a new video and have an idea I'd like to try and my googling is coming up empty
I have these from a few years back, hope it helps and you idea sounds soooo interesting got me curious now!
Not going to replicate the more bullet holes that shots fired scene are you?
Cheers :007)
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Can anyone help me locate an empty set photo of the Skyfall firing range? I'm starting to work on a new video and have an idea I'd like to try and my googling is coming up empty
I have these from a few years back, hope it helps and you idea sounds soooo interesting got me curious now!
Not going to replicate the more bullet holes that shots fired scene are you?
Cheers :007)
These are the closest pictures I've been able to find myself. I'm trying to find a picture basically where Bond is standing with the entire range, sandbags and all, in the background.
Lol, it could have been special ammo from Q Branch
Have you ever seen the shot you are looking for? The ones I have seen are like this, or close ups and those with crew in the shot. If not maybe anyone with blue ray could try and snap one hi res for you.
Yeah that special ammo and the never emptying magazine from Hollywood and you could make one a small fortune!
Cheers :007)
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That's kind of what I was going for, minus the targets with Bond''s face on them. Every video I'm trying something new until I find a format and quality I want to stick with. I want to play around with a green screen and different backdrops and thought the firing range from the "Rocky" sequence in Sky fall might be cool
This is clean enough to photoshop the people out...
A clean shot without people doesn't exist in the film - the shot Bond44 provided is the best angle, but some cropping or Photoshop might work with some of these. Good luck!
This is clean enough to photoshop the people out...
A clean shot without people doesn't exist in the film - the shot Bond44 provided is the best angle, but some cropping or Photoshop might work with some of these. Good luck!
I've been thinking about that as an option, but thought it would be in bad form standing down range lol. The other pictures might work. I'll have to play around. Thank you for the help!
This may have been discussed before... but does anyone else cringe in the train scene from SPECTRE when Bond is trying to teach Swann about the Sig and as he hands her the pistol with a round chambered he has his finger all in the trigger guard as he places it on the table .. she then picks it up and points it right at him as she ejects the chambered round..
This may have been discussed before... but does anyone else cringe in the train scene from SPECTRE when Bond is trying to teach Swann about the Sig and as he hands her the pistol with a round chambered he has his finger all in the trigger guard as he places it on the table .. she then picks it up and points it right at him as she ejects the chambered round..
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Can anybody identify that band aid, DC is wearing on his trigger finger, or are "non hero" band aids off limits in the forums?
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I never even noticed that before!
Wouldn't that make it DAO? That's why I asked.
No, a double action only pistol only has a two stage trigger, ie pulling the trigger first cocks the hammer the second releases it. The ppk can be fired with single action if you first **** the hammer manually or by racking the slide, then the trigger just releases it, but as it uses blowback which is the gasses created by firing a cartridge force the slide back which cocks the hammer then the slide is returned forward with use of a recoil spring which sits around the fixed barrel to facilitate re cocking the hammer as it's semi automatic, while all that is happening the spent cartridge is ejected and the spring in the magazine pushes up a new cartridge ( if you've adequately maintained your mag) and your good to go again.
The ppk is a da/sa pistol only needing da for the first shot.
If you notice, Dc tends to **** his ppk quite often in the films, and uses both racking and his thumb, I think Asp is making the point that the cocked stunt gun he asked for just allows greater continuity in the film. DC also de cocks his ppk regularly.
It's good practice to **** a ppk for a first shot as you need less effort to squeeze the trigger and so have greater accuracy and quicker response, that first shot may be the only one you get.
Yes, and that's something that I really like as I think that the PPK wasn't showcased and used enough in older films.
Love DC's trigger discipline throughout but if you took a look at his finger after the train fell beside him, you can see that it's out of the trigger guard.
He certainly can do a whole lot with his little finger. No wonder he cherishes it that much.
Spot on CC. Previously you could spot a stunt because the weapon was usually cast uncocked with the safety on. DC requested a pistol be cast in the cocked position so not only was the hammer cocked but the trigger was cast further back towards the frame as a real pistol is when cocked. Additionally the safety was cast in the off position. For Skyfall some of the stunts also had genuine Walther grips -{
Yup DC manipulates his ppk far more than any previous bond, he is regularly seen racking the slide, de cocking etc and I'm pretty sure when he leaves Ronsons flat in SF he de cocks and applies the safety before holstering. RM Bond must have walked around with his safety off as he seems able to draw and fire I think he only ever thumbed the hammer when he was with Rosie?
After the corkscrew jump, he draws it and I think he moved his thumb on the hammer but never actually de-cocked it as it's up when he goes to shoot the gate.
At least he had a better holster than Dalton who also carried it ****-loaded.
The rubber stunt prop clears things up, thank you!
I noticed all of those except Patrices bolt action! and swanns number of shots, this photo always intrigues me, what's going on here?
There is a story behind this image & all I can say it is along the lines of a certain pair of gloves on the Pinewood Shanghai set!
Can really change the context of some posts - hilarious
You must male chicken your PPK before you fire it! Priceless
Cheers :007)
Speaking of guns, I've spent most of today listening to some of our boys firing a few grands worth of shells on the range, 4 hours so far and the smell of cordite is thick.
Now Brad Whitaker that clearly was a c*ck up as the Colt Commando's clearly visible maximum magazine capacity was just 30 rounds & I know the guys responsible for it!
Not going to replicate the more bullet holes that shots fired scene are you?
Cheers :007)
These are the closest pictures I've been able to find myself. I'm trying to find a picture basically where Bond is standing with the entire range, sandbags and all, in the background.
Lol, it could have been special ammo from Q Branch
Yeah that special ammo and the never emptying magazine from Hollywood and you could make one a small fortune!
Cheers :007)
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That's kind of what I was going for, minus the targets with Bond''s face on them. Every video I'm trying something new until I find a format and quality I want to stick with. I want to play around with a green screen and different backdrops and thought the firing range from the "Rocky" sequence in Sky fall might be cool
A clean shot without people doesn't exist in the film - the shot Bond44 provided is the best angle, but some cropping or Photoshop might work with some of these. Good luck!
I've been thinking about that as an option, but thought it would be in bad form standing down range lol. The other pictures might work. I'll have to play around. Thank you for the help!