I strongly doubt the UK will stay in the EU because of this election result, but negotiations will be more difficult and slower. The government will need to go back and ask coalition parties or even parliament many times during negotiations. In short Britain will be weaker in the Brexit negotiations.
I strongly doubt the UK will stay in the EU because of this election result, but negotiations will be more difficult and slower. The government will need to go back and ask coalition parties or even parliament many times during negotiations. In short Britain will be weaker in the Brexit negotiations.
Ah yes, but the students who have turned out to vote aren't interested in things like that! They were voting for more beer money....
Er I mean no tuition fees
That would be the best thing for the UK people (and for Europe) to do - however I don't think that it's gonna happen.
Barbel, I can assure you that there still would be enough reasons to argue for me , so you don't have to be afraid to get obsolete as a mod here so you have nothing to be afraid of
As things are, the exit negotiations will not happen in the next weeks - so less to argue about for me - and the UK people will be back to the voting stations again very soon
I hope that there will be a programme now to reverse the BREXIT decision and I am very optimistic about the outcome.
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What I don't understand is, that CNN speculated about a coalition between the Tories and the SNP.
As far as I know, the SNP has very different opinions that don't match at all with May's agenda, is a coalition with the SNP realistic?
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My feeling is that he refused the job because he knew that it'd be very complicated after the Brexit decision and that he could only lose under those circumstances.
I can't see a better Status Quo after yesterday's elections - there is not much to win in the years to come I am afraid.
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You're right there isn't much to win, but I'm of the view that with a more equal share of the vote in the commons the country will get a brexit that suits more people, also if the DUP do align with the tories it strengthens the union of the UK.
Also if Boris were to become tory leader and therefore pm he would run a very different campaign a more positive one and possibly one that voters would take to. May ran an awful campaign IMHO and to say this morning that the country needs a time of stability flies in the face of her decision to call the election. We needed that stability after the Brexit vote.
Corbyn ran a campaign offering everything to everybody which Labour would always struggle to deliver. But again this result just proves how ill informed and short sighted the British voters really are. The tories lost to students wanting free university and people not wanting to pay for their own care in later life. In the UK the mood seems to be, we want it all but we don't want to pay for it.
What I don't understand is, that CNN speculated about a coalition between the Tories and the SNP.
As far as I know, the SNP has very different opinions that don't match at all with May's agenda, is a coalition with the SNP realistic?
my opinion about BoJo is that people are glorifying his much more than he's able to deliver.
He knows that well (I call him a bag of wind) and is afraid that his magic will be ripped away when people are facing the reality.
As for the vote, I know that education and care where big topics along with security, but wasn't that election all about strenghtening May in the Brexit negotiations?
I know the mood of "Stick to the referendum" and "don't make politics agains the majority", but I'd object that the rules have significantly changed after the facts are really on the table and the voters should have a chance to make a better informed choice.
And I don't disagree with your comment about the short sighted votes of the UK people
Imagine there was a populist like Trump in the UK tomorrow promising to fight against the political establishment. I think, that he'd be very successfully
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Actually it's about six weeks of campaigning. And during the Cameron period she was NOT pro EU, exactly the opposite, but unlike many unloyal members, she towed the party line. It's a good move as it removes many obstacles in her path when negotiations really start. We are leaving, best to have the best footing before it all kicks off. The GE will ensure that.
Just pulling up Asp9mm's comment from 19th April just to show how daft and stupidly wrong he always is ) ) )
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my opinion about BoJo is that people are glorifying his much more than he's able to deliver.
He knows that well (I call him a bag of wind) and is afraid that his magic will be ripped away when people are facing the reality.
As for the vote, I know that education and care where big topics along with security, but wasn't that election all about strenghtening May in the Brexit negotiations?
I know the mood of "Stick to the referendum" and "don't make politics agains the majority", but I'd object that the rules have significantly changed after the facts are really on the table and the voters should have a chance to make a better informed choice.
And I don't disagree with your comment about the short sighted votes of the UK people
Imagine there was a populist like Trump in the UK tomorrow promising to fight against the political establishment. I think, that he'd be very successfully
I'd disagree about Bojo, his public personality betrays what is a very shrewd political mind, bearing in mind he became the mayor of London TWICE, which given Londons almost total left leaning sentiment, shows he is likable to the the electorate. I would wager if he had run as pm in this election we would have seen the tory landslide that was predicted and a more centrist manifesto, which in my opinion May got horribly wrong. As Labour shifted dramatically left and vacated any central ground the tories should have moved to a more central political stance
I don't object, that BoJo is a likeable person and he's a tremendous entertainer.
However, in my opinion that's not enough to steer the UK thru the coming rough waters and he obviously knows it. Otherwise, he'd taken the job right after the referendum. He had that chance back then but said no.
And let's not forget, that in his heart and before he joined the Brexit bandwaggon (because of questionable motives) he was pro-EU.
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Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I don't object, that BoJo is a likeable person and he's a tremendous entertainer.
However, in my opinion that's not enough to steer the UK thru the coming rough waters and he obviously knows it. Otherwise, he'd taken the job right after the referendum. He had that chance back then but said no.
And let's not forget, that in his heart and before he joined the Brexit bandwaggon (because of questionable motives) he was pro-EU.
He had no chance of getting the job last time due to betrayal of his key support, and he stood down in the interest of the country as opposed to pursuing personal gain I think, it also meant he wasn't defeated, a good play I think.
Yes he was pro Eu, but admits to changing tact due to what he witnessed in Brussels.
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A well hung parliament would be a good thing! I think Cromwell wanted to hang parliament once upon a time
The old proverb seems very apropriate for UKIP now.
.... should keep Higgins happy.
Er I mean no tuition fees
Corbyn does make love to diane Abbot
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Nah, that ain't going to happen. (He'd have less to argue about.)
Barbel, I can assure you that there still would be enough reasons to argue for me , so you don't have to be afraid to get obsolete as a mod here
As things are, the exit negotiations will not happen in the next weeks - so less to argue about for me - and the UK people will be back to the voting stations again very soon
I hope that there will be a programme now to reverse the BREXIT decision and I am very optimistic about the outcome.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
As far as I know, the SNP has very different opinions that don't match at all with May's agenda, is a coalition with the SNP realistic?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
My feeling is that he refused the job because he knew that it'd be very complicated after the Brexit decision and that he could only lose under those circumstances.
I can't see a better Status Quo after yesterday's elections - there is not much to win in the years to come I am afraid.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Also if Boris were to become tory leader and therefore pm he would run a very different campaign a more positive one and possibly one that voters would take to. May ran an awful campaign IMHO and to say this morning that the country needs a time of stability flies in the face of her decision to call the election. We needed that stability after the Brexit vote.
Corbyn ran a campaign offering everything to everybody which Labour would always struggle to deliver. But again this result just proves how ill informed and short sighted the British voters really are. The tories lost to students wanting free university and people not wanting to pay for their own care in later life. In the UK the mood seems to be, we want it all but we don't want to pay for it.
I don't think so.
He knows that well (I call him a bag of wind) and is afraid that his magic will be ripped away when people are facing the reality.
As for the vote, I know that education and care where big topics along with security, but wasn't that election all about strenghtening May in the Brexit negotiations?
I know the mood of "Stick to the referendum" and "don't make politics agains the majority", but I'd object that the rules have significantly changed after the facts are really on the table and the voters should have a chance to make a better informed choice.
And I don't disagree with your comment about the short sighted votes of the UK people
Imagine there was a populist like Trump in the UK tomorrow promising to fight against the political establishment. I think, that he'd be very successfully
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Just pulling up Asp9mm's comment from 19th April just to show how daft and stupidly wrong he always is
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I'd disagree about Bojo, his public personality betrays what is a very shrewd political mind, bearing in mind he became the mayor of London TWICE, which given Londons almost total left leaning sentiment, shows he is likable to the the electorate. I would wager if he had run as pm in this election we would have seen the tory landslide that was predicted and a more centrist manifesto, which in my opinion May got horribly wrong. As Labour shifted dramatically left and vacated any central ground the tories should have moved to a more central political stance
However, in my opinion that's not enough to steer the UK thru the coming rough waters and he obviously knows it. Otherwise, he'd taken the job right after the referendum. He had that chance back then but said no.
And let's not forget, that in his heart and before he joined the Brexit bandwaggon (because of questionable motives) he was pro-EU.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Yes he was pro Eu, but admits to changing tact due to what he witnessed in Brussels.
Sounds a bit like the UK as an EU member - before and after Brexit
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!