I think in addition to Dalton and Brosnan, there were several actors at the time who would have made good James Bonds. Certainly Liam Neeson and Sean Bean could have done a great job.
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I saw the living daylight for the first time. I did not really enjoy it as much as the other James Bond films. I think the story was not really good. Timothy Dalton was good but I didn't really like everything about this film. I will watch lisence to kill next week. I hope this is the better film.
I watched TLD again last night on blu-ray; unfortunately, it got too late for me to watch the Inside TLD featurette, which I might watch tonight. I remember at the time the movie was first announced and then released, I was really excited. As many felt, I was disappointed when Brosnan was dropped, then pleased when Dalton was brought in to replace him, remembering his performance from Flash Gordon, which I think stole that movie!
I loved AVTAK and as a Bond fan, I squeezed out every ounce of Bond-ness from that movie though there was the nagging, obvious fact that this was a Bond that relied heavily on as much movie magic it could muster to make ol' Sir Rog look good. Also, I had just begun reading the novels about 4 years before, so when I watched TLD, wow, it really delivered...a new, younger Bond so unlike the previous one even at his peak, but in sharpest contrast to the Bond in AVTAK for the reasons I mentioned.
This Bond was pleasantly unencumbered with the cinematic Bond's cliched debonair persona, being just real and "raw" like the Bond of the books....and he looked like Bond as described! At first, it was jarring to first hear Dalton utter the "Bond, James Bond" line that we all have gotten used to, but figured that's how book Bond would introduce himself, without fanfare or pretense...wow! No, as some would point out, TD was not perfect and I concede there were spells of overacting ) Had TD toned down his intensity a bit, we would have gotten the Bond sweet spot, but nonetheless I would strongly argue that Dalton, to date, has been to closest to nail the soul, essence and appearance of "the real" Bond.
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
Nevermind about that.
I was switching tabs to find what I wanted and it took me a while before I went back to this tab and type that.
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"In your dreams, Higgy-bum!"
-Barbel 2k17
Looking a bit red there...lemme fix that.
Let me just put Licence To Kill on an endless loop.
We may now begin the torture. It is more of a hobby...but I'm very gifted.
a reasonable rate of return
superadoRegent's Park West (CaliforniaPosts: 2,656MI6 Agent
When Stephanie Zimbalist and her agent finally caught up with Pierce Brosnan...
"...the purposeful slant of his striding figure looked dangerous, as if he was making quickly for something bad that was happening further down the street." -SMERSH on 007 dossier photo, Ch. 6 FRWL.....
I love Dalton's films. His dark and gritty ways were way ahead of time.
With that said, I think Moore should've ended on a good note after OP. AVTAK is fine, but it's like the director wanted us to see all of the body doubles in every take!
Dalton just looks the part and I wish we could've seen him a few more times. TLD was great, and LTK was maybe a bit too much with violence but indeed a great movie. I wish Property of A Lady could've been done in like 1991.
“Well I heard the price of eggs was going up but isn't that a little high?”
1. GE 2. TWINE 3. TSWLM 4. TLD 5. OP 6. GF 7. SF 8. TND 9. FRWL 10. LALD 11. LTK 12. CR 13.
All Bond movies had something special to contribute. I only consider QOS to be a travesty.
I'm listening to James Bond Radio talking about TLD. It's not completely on topic, but ......
Wouldn't Michelle Pheiffer had been a fantastic Kara Milovy? At the time she had just finished Ladyhawk. That movie bombed and Scarface was two years earlier. She wasn't a superstar yet. She's one of the most beautiful women in the world and a damn fine actress.
And I think Elle MacPherson could easily have played the girl in the boat in the PTS:
I think in addition to Dalton and Brosnan, there were several actors at the time who would have made good James Bonds. Certainly Liam Neeson and Sean Bean could have done a great job.
Don't forget Sam Neill, he impressed producer's with his screentest.
I think Moore's claim to not want to continue with Bond after MR was just a bargaining ploy. Replacing him was no easy business as really it was just him and Connery up to that point, a new actor could have been a new Lazenby, and some take that view about Dalton anyway.
What else would Moore have done for that kind of money? He was Bond and Bond was him, there were no other options.
I honestly doubt that... He loved playing the character of James Bond with ease and a light-heart, and in one of his last interviews before his passing, he mentioned that he only knew how to play the character as he acts himself on a real-life basis. He was 51 years old at the time, and even then, he cared that much to consider giving up the role after four films at the dawn of the 80's. The only two films where he does not exactly play his normal self were For Your Eyes Only (which was his best performance in my opinion) and A View To A Kill (which was too dark for his liking, as Dalton's type of serious film was present there). The 80's was a different era of Bond than Moore's entire run in the 70's, and he could easily have turned it down but adjusted to it.
no I don't see aVTaK as anticipating Dalton's "darker" style either, FYEO maybe, but not Moore's last two
what with Grace Jones and the Duran Duran song, I think of it as the MTV-era Bond film
but Moore himself does think of it as a darker film, specifically the scene where Walken machine guns down his own minions while cackling gleefully
I say that because of how deranged the villains are, which reminded me of Licence To Kill. Also you've got hardly any gadgets at all, something which For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights and Licence To Kill did - also with a lot of seriousness in their plots. Then in the middle segment, once Bond gets to San Francisco, you have Zorin chucking a KGB worker into the propeller, which is also reminiscent of Licence To Kill with Sanchez de-pressuring Krest's head, and it genuinely felt quite dark. Then in my opinion, Bond and Stacey being trapped in an elevator in a burning City Hall felt far more threatening than most similar situations in previous Roger Moore Bond films. Finally, the entire Silicon Valley mine scene with Zorin gunning down his people and taking off in a blimp. This film definitely would have worked with Timothy Dalton, had they changed a couple of the cheesy scenes in the first half.
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I watched TLD again last night on blu-ray; unfortunately, it got too late for me to watch the Inside TLD featurette, which I might watch tonight. I remember at the time the movie was first announced and then released, I was really excited. As many felt, I was disappointed when Brosnan was dropped, then pleased when Dalton was brought in to replace him, remembering his performance from Flash Gordon, which I think stole that movie!
I loved AVTAK and as a Bond fan, I squeezed out every ounce of Bond-ness from that movie though there was the nagging, obvious fact that this was a Bond that relied heavily on as much movie magic it could muster to make ol' Sir Rog look good. Also, I had just begun reading the novels about 4 years before, so when I watched TLD, wow, it really delivered...a new, younger Bond so unlike the previous one even at his peak, but in sharpest contrast to the Bond in AVTAK for the reasons I mentioned.
This Bond was pleasantly unencumbered with the cinematic Bond's cliched debonair persona, being just real and "raw" like the Bond of the books....and he looked like Bond as described! At first, it was jarring to first hear Dalton utter the "Bond, James Bond" line that we all have gotten used to, but figured that's how book Bond would introduce himself, without fanfare or pretense...wow! No, as some would point out, TD was not perfect and I concede there were spells of overacting
That's putting it mildly
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
You and your stingers :v
(Jesus! What is wrong with my brain today. The punishment still stands for Higgy-bum.)
a Shakespearian trained actor.
I was switching tabs to find what I wanted and it took me a while before I went back to this tab and type that.
I'm not very good at multitasking ;%
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
And don't ever forget...
DALTON RULEZ™
"The Rough Guide To James Bond" described Dalton as "Patrick Stewart with hair"...
He did.
It appears that he landed on curare with an effective psychedelic compound.
Guaranteed results. Fortunately, brain damage isn't a risk with Higgy-bum.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
-Barbel 2k17
Looking a bit red there...lemme fix that.
Let me just put Licence To Kill on an endless loop.
We may now begin the torture. It is more of a hobby...but I'm very gifted.
When Stephanie Zimbalist and her agent finally caught up with Pierce Brosnan...
We should seriously make a gif only thread.
We could also do it as a joke.....
Pitching an idea, not making a serious gif thread.
With that said, I think Moore should've ended on a good note after OP. AVTAK is fine, but it's like the director wanted us to see all of the body doubles in every take!
Dalton just looks the part and I wish we could've seen him a few more times. TLD was great, and LTK was maybe a bit too much with violence but indeed a great movie. I wish Property of A Lady could've been done in like 1991.
1. GE 2. TWINE 3. TSWLM 4. TLD 5. OP 6. GF 7. SF 8. TND 9. FRWL 10. LALD 11. LTK 12. CR 13.
All Bond movies had something special to contribute. I only consider QOS to be a travesty.
I honestly doubt that... He loved playing the character of James Bond with ease and a light-heart, and in one of his last interviews before his passing, he mentioned that he only knew how to play the character as he acts himself on a real-life basis. He was 51 years old at the time, and even then, he cared that much to consider giving up the role after four films at the dawn of the 80's. The only two films where he does not exactly play his normal self were For Your Eyes Only (which was his best performance in my opinion) and A View To A Kill (which was too dark for his liking, as Dalton's type of serious film was present there). The 80's was a different era of Bond than Moore's entire run in the 70's, and he could easily have turned it down but adjusted to it.
1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig 6. Brosnan
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
what with Grace Jones and the Duran Duran song, I think of it as the MTV-era Bond film
but Moore himself does think of it as a darker film, specifically the scene where Walken machine guns down his own minions while cackling gleefully
1. Dalton 2. Moore 3. Connery 4. Lazenby 5. Craig 6. Brosnan
If any, that scene in LTK is reminiscent of AVTAK
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!