Is SPECTRE gone by DAF?
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I'd have to think that with the loss of several key members (Julius No, Kleb, Volpe, Largo, Lippe, No. 11), hundreds of lower level minions and assasins (Vargas, Red Grant), numerous facilities and tech destroyed, that SPECTRE is either no longer existent, or at least, severely decimated and hobbled by the time of Diamonds Are Forever. Yes, Blofeld has new underlings here in the diamond smuggling business but when it almost seems like he's working with another group, rather than being the leader of a terrorist organization. It seems like he's just working with Metz's people and using them, rather than commanding his own "Legion of Doom." The mighty SPECTRE, who seems to have allies and subordinates and front groups all over the world in Thunderball, doesn't seem to exist by DAF. At the very least, it doesn't seem anywhere nearly as powerful.
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
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You could argue that perhaps Drax's organization is a successor to SPECTRE. For example, maybe Drax Industries was a lesser-known SPECTRE front organization, and when Blofeld died, Drax inherited what remained of SPECTRE and incorporated it into Drax Industries.
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Yes, it's there.
Or wear a ring on your finger which is easily visible to your opponent. Think Fiona Volpe in Thunderball when she's driving Bond (very quickly) from the beach to the hotel.
Just look at FIFA
Plenty of cash and power while still working from the shadows.
"The ideal kidnap victim, no-one has seen the man for 5 years, so who's gonna miss a man who's already missing?"
That's how I view it. Yes, he has the SPECTRE logo on his escape pod, but that could just be because he liked the symbol. I don't think that SPECTRE, at the very least, was in good shape by 1971 given how many members, facilities, and how much money it had lost courtesy of 007. Also, doesn't Blofeld's plot in DAF seem a bit beneath him? I see it as a last ditch effort to remain relevant. I mean, I can't see Blofeld as he's earlier portrayed NEEDING to convince a scientist (Metz) that he's hoping to bring peace to the world in order to get the guy to work with him. He no longer had the massive organization or power to be as dominant as he previously was. By DAF he's just using Whyte's men and resources and he's so afraid of Bond he's hiring body doubles to evade being killed.
Truly a last ditch effort to stay relevant.
but maybe when SPECTRE ran into difficulties and he had to lay every body off and pay his creditors, all he was left with was some stray bits and pieces in the SPECTRE storage warehouse and the bathosub was one of them? in fact, its probably a collectible by now, and he shouldnt be messing it up by putting it in salt water
Oh I don't know, only the cia. Mi6, deuxieme bureau, AISE , BVT, kgb and maybe a few others! No one of any importance really
Even my little lotus had a big red 007 across the bonnet.
Mine too {[] I also had a model white XJS with a black Saint stick man on it., did you also have the lotus with rockets that fired out of the back window?
Didn't the Gray Blofeld wear the SPECTRE ring too? Or did I feverishly imagine it?
I'm pretty sure he did
He also wore braces!
The same kind Dolly wore!
Except in Thunderball bond works out the significance of the rings and would have shared this Intel. By the time of DAF there's a full blown operation against Blofeld and Spectre, operation bedlam, the Russians would be aware via the death of klebb and the fact Spectre stole a Russian spacecraft would be enough for the kgb to be looking into the whole thing.