Minus the drawstring it looks pretty much identical to a sweater issued in the navy, at least here down under and I’m assuming UK as well.
As well as in Finland, in addition to a genuine mil issue peacoat it's the only piece of swabbie (or "Paramilitary Boat Club" as the navy is known in Finland) kit I will ever stoop down to wear... ) ) )
"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech
Hi yes i'm still serving and have been since 1988. The drawstring is not done now but was back then to keep the neck line looking smart as they often stretched and looked untidy. The drawstring did have to be on the inside though.
It seems like i am in the minority here but i am not a huge fan of this look and the jumper. It probably fits the film but i am not sure about the practicality of wearing it and how this will look for the regular person as day to day wear. I would have thought a drawstring is not the ideal thing to have around the neck of a jumper...it can be used to strangle the person wearing it!!
yeah and if its really from the navy/military we can take a breath because those jumpers aren't very expensive and they will produce them over and over.
but the collar is indeed very odd. especially with those drawstrings. never seen that before in combination with military-jumpers.
you can combine that sweater with the connolly jacket and you've got an blue in blue double drawsting outfit, höhö.
The military jumper with a drawstring on the outside configuration is a nod to old-school UK Special Forces. Think 1980's British Special Air Service (SAS) barrack dress - they had a thing for having the boot-lace on show at the front, but unfortunately I can't find a picture from that era that shows it. I have no idea if it was something the Special Boat Service (SBS) went in for though, given Bond's Naval back history and all that.
Back when I served in the 1990's those jumpers were still being issued and the unit I was in (not SF) had you put paracord in the neck so your could keep the top of the jumper tight and looking smart (as someone else here mentioned), but we had to do it on the inside of the collar and then tuck the loose ends in so you couldn't see them.
If you get yourself a proper military wooly pully and want to do it, there is no sewing kit required. Just put a safety-pin through the end of your boot-lace and then push that through the weave of the wool so it ends up inside the 'tube' of the wool material making up the jumper's collar. Feeling through the wool material the feed the safety-pin around the collar until your all the way round and out the same hole. Take the pin off the lace and pull the lace round until you have two even length ends. Tighten and tie as desired when worn.
I had been thinking about getting one of these wooly pullys again for that old-school military look, so this is an amusing development in the Bond clothing stakes. Now if I could only find someone selling NOS issue NI gloves!!
thanks for the explanation! i like the military-look on Craig/Bond and in general and I own some of those sweaters (without the drawstings, I wonder how the collar looks when its tightened). they keep warm, are hard-wearing and a practically and thats why I have a problem N. Peal releases such a sweater. the brand is just to noble and high-class for an item like this in my eyes. its like drinking beer from a Cumbria Crystal tankard if you know what I mean.
but I know me: complaining now and when the postman with the n.peal box rings my bell I jump up and run to the door faster than Usain Bolt.
hopefully we are going to see more of the outfit today, the shoes would be interesting too
Any idea about the gloves? I guess is too soon to know
I’ve tried looking at the earlier hi-res poster pick and some of the lines and the tab on the back of the wrist suggest PIG FDT Alpha’s to me, but honestly it’s hard to tell from that one picture.
Any idea about the gloves? I guess is too soon to know
I’ve tried looking at the earlier hi-res poster pick and some of the lines and the tab on the back of the wrist suggest PIG FDT Alpha’s to me, but honestly it’s hard to tell from that one picture.
The funny thing is this jumper looks just like your old woolly pully that has seen a load of use, has been washed and ironed to death and has lost its 'chinese burn' qualities. There are probably screen accurate replicas in the bargain bucket at the local surplus shop. I wonder what Bond will be wearing next ? A Green Helly Hansen Lausane fleece ?
LOL, the good old British Military Wooly Pully , this is a Royal Navy version, you can pick them up, like this condition, old and worn, from many surplus and Army/Navy shops in the UK. Silvermans will sell them now. Soldiers (and obviously Sailors and Airmen) would thread an old shoelace through the collar so it could be pulled tight when it inevitably stretched. Looks like they snipped off the epaulettes.
I had a navy one issued in the Police, and like my old green army one, I couldn't wait to get rid of it - anyone who has any experience of the NATO jumper, will know it would have been a lot less itchy in Cashmere, however i doubt the Queen would have stretched to that with her budget! Nice to know MI6 get the luxurious cashmere, whist the real workers itch!!! )
To top it off, now I'm thinking about actually buying one!!!!
Although the jumper has a NATO military inspired look, none of the issued versions and commercially available cheaper options had/have that square neckline.
You can easily make a frugal look but you won’t be able to match this.
Although the jumper has a NATO military inspired look, none of the issued versions and commercially available cheaper options had/have that square neckline.
You can easily make a frugal look but you won’t be able to match this.
Actually a bit earlier in this thread AugustWalker did find a frugal option that has the square neckline and the drawstrings. It's not navy and it has epaulettes, but it does show that there are actually cheap options out there (well at least one) that have the same features as the poster sweater https://onlinemilitaria.net/products/1013-UK-Commando-Sweater/
Regarding the discussion a bit earlier in this thread (around post 1730) over whether or not the off-white henley was R&B because the buttons didn't look like they had the classic R&B black edges, there was a shot in the new trailer (1:32) of Bond wearing the shirt and you can definitely see that the buttons have the black edges. So if the R&B ID is not confirmed already, I think it's fairly safe to do that now.
Although the jumper has a NATO military inspired look, none of the issued versions and commercially available cheaper options had/have that square neckline.
You can easily make a frugal look but you won’t be able to match this.
Actually a bit earlier in this thread AugustWalker did find a frugal option that has the square neckline and the drawstrings. It's not navy and it has epaulettes, but it does show that there are actually cheap options out there (well at least one) that have the same features as the poster sweater https://onlinemilitaria.net/products/1013-UK-Commando-Sweater/
So far my favorite look from the film is the N.peal tactical outfit. Although I am interested in seeing more of the Norway look. Beyond those and the TF suits of course most of the wardrobe we've seen seems pretty forgettable.
Rothco does one in the navy color... no epaulettes either..
Halfhitman is right I believe in that the sweater does not have a square neckline.. but rather the braces underneath showing through give it that appearance.. the neckline is actually like a diamond shape.. If you zoom in on the hi-res version of the poster you can clearly see the texture and color difference between the sweater and the braces.
Having worn commando jumpers, it's the material you want to look out for. Proper wool, and as fine a weave as possible - would be relatively easy to square off the neck line a touch. The synthetic ones are incredibly scratchy and look 20 years old after you've washed them twice.
Having worn commando jumpers, it's the material you want to look out for. Proper wool, and as fine a weave as possible - would be relatively easy to square off the neck line a touch. The synthetic ones are incredibly scratchy and look 20 years old after you've washed them twice.
Have you seen the TW Kempton? I imagine is well known to you. Is it any good? I actually have been interested in getting me one for years. I would not get something in cashmere myself. I would go for a v neck instead. I prefer loosley based rather than SA.
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As well as in Finland, in addition to a genuine mil issue peacoat it's the only piece of swabbie (or "Paramilitary Boat Club" as the navy is known in Finland) kit I will ever stoop down to wear...
-Mr Arlington Beech
thanks for the explanation! i like the military-look on Craig/Bond and in general and I own some of those sweaters (without the drawstings, I wonder how the collar looks when its tightened). they keep warm, are hard-wearing and a practically and thats why I have a problem N. Peal releases such a sweater. the brand is just to noble and high-class for an item like this in my eyes. its like drinking beer from a Cumbria Crystal tankard if you know what I mean.
but I know me: complaining now and when the postman with the n.peal box rings my bell I jump up and run to the door faster than Usain Bolt.
hopefully we are going to see more of the outfit today, the shoes would be interesting too
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I’ve tried looking at the earlier hi-res poster pick and some of the lines and the tab on the back of the wrist suggest PIG FDT Alpha’s to me, but honestly it’s hard to tell from that one picture.
The PIG gloves are super popular with SF operators at the moment, particularly in the US -
https://www.tactical-kit.co.uk/pig-fdt-alpha-gloves-new-style-23354-p.asp
And Omega confirmed they will be doing a reveal today, with Babs, Michael and DC themselves.
Instagram and Twitter sources, FWIW.
"The very words I live by."
Opps, cancel my last; closure tab is in the wrong place for the gloves to be PIG Alpha’s.
You can easily make a frugal look but you won’t be able to match this.
Actually a bit earlier in this thread AugustWalker did find a frugal option that has the square neckline and the drawstrings. It's not navy and it has epaulettes, but it does show that there are actually cheap options out there (well at least one) that have the same features as the poster sweater https://onlinemilitaria.net/products/1013-UK-Commando-Sweater/
Maybe.
But the issued NATO jumpers that are being referred to, with Velcro epaulettes, have a crew neck collar not a square neck like the NPeal.
Outdoor Knitwear do one called The 1945 with the shock cord on the collar but it’s in black:
https://www.outdoorknitwear.com/crew-neck/89-the-1945.html?search_query=The+1945&results=1#/size-xs/colour-black
Halfhitman is right I believe in that the sweater does not have a square neckline.. but rather the braces underneath showing through give it that appearance.. the neckline is actually like a diamond shape.. If you zoom in on the hi-res version of the poster you can clearly see the texture and color difference between the sweater and the braces.
https://www.rothco.com/product/rothco-commando-sweater
Side note... Rothco also sells on eBay... the sweater on the ebay shop is only $36 compared to $49 online..
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Have you seen the TW Kempton? I imagine is well known to you. Is it any good? I actually have been interested in getting me one for years. I would not get something in cashmere myself. I would go for a v neck instead. I prefer loosley based rather than SA.
Does anybody know what that coat is???
Has the coat been identified?
Massimo Alba wrote on Instagram that Bond wears a "RAIN duster coat" in corduroy from them, this should be it
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