Craig is back: Discuss Bond 25 here

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  • Kent007Kent007 Posts: 338MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Yes, things are looking up :007)

    According to the Norwegian newspaper VG the press conference wil be at Pinewood on Monday.

    https://www.vg.no/rampelys/film/i/3jnqnA/james-bond-i-norge-dette-vet-vi

    I'm inclined to believe the Variety article which says the main roles haven't been cast yet. They're not going to do a press conference without a cast.

    The Variety article makes it sound like they know who they want to cast so could be a possibility that they get it sorted over the next few day and the present on Monday. Who knows. If the press conference is Monday, think we'll hear about it by some more trusted sources over the next day or two.
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  • Arbogast777Arbogast777 Minneapolis Posts: 252MI6 Agent
    Kent007 wrote:
    The Variety article makes it sound like they know who they want to cast so could be a possibility that they get it sorted over the next few day and the present on Monday.

    As far as the female cast members are concerned it says they still need to test actresses with DC...
  • Kent007Kent007 Posts: 338MI6 Agent
    Kent007 wrote:
    The Variety article makes it sound like they know who they want to cast so could be a possibility that they get it sorted over the next few day and the present on Monday.

    As far as the female cast members are concerned it says they still need to test actresses with DC...

    True. Like I said, if it is happening on Monday then we should know for sure over the next day or two.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,311MI6 Agent
    The newspaper doesn't cite or reference any sources fro the press conference date. Even though VG is a tabloid I don't think they are the type to just "think of a number", they must have some kind of source even though it might be a bad one.
  • Arbogast777Arbogast777 Minneapolis Posts: 252MI6 Agent
    edited February 2019
    I think VG is working off outdated news. It says the first shooting day is Monday, and that a press conference will come after that. Seeing as how the start of production has been moved to April, I think any press conference will similarly move as well.

    There will not be a press conference on Monday.
  • Kent007Kent007 Posts: 338MI6 Agent
    Collider Movie Talk crew discussed their report on Malek and whilst doing so, also claimed that they believe Lupita N'Yongo is wanted for Bond 25 to assuringly play one of the female roles discussed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l4gEADZ3gw
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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    ToTheRight wrote:
    DavidJones wrote:
    I’m sure the film will just be called “James Bond.”

    I think they will save that for when there's been another 1989-95 type break and they have to shout that it's a comeback film.

    I think that would be B26 after a decade gap. I truly think we're in for a long wait after this next film.

    A decade would be 2030 and the Fleming copyrights will have run out or be about to run out in 96% of the world (everywhere but the US). EON's license won't be worth much then. If there's going to be another long delay, EON would be better off selling out.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,311MI6 Agent
    I think VG is working off outdated news. It says the first shooting day is Monday, and that a press conference will come after that. Seeing as how the start of production has been moved to April, I think any press conference will similarly move as well.

    There will not be a press conference on Monday.

    VG knows the release day has been moved, but it looks like your're right they use old information about the start of shootign at Pinewood. but they have other information about the filming in Norway that seems accurate and with good Sources that I've posted sbout on the sppoiler thread
  • DavidJonesDavidJones BermondseyPosts: 266MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    ToTheRight wrote:
    DavidJones wrote:

    I think they will save that for when there's been another 1989-95 type break and they have to shout that it's a comeback film.

    I think that would be B26 after a decade gap. I truly think we're in for a long wait after this next film.

    A decade would be 2030 and the Fleming copyrights will have run out or be about to run out in 96% of the world (everywhere but the US). EON's license won't be worth much then. If there's going to be another long delay, EON would be better off selling out.

    That's a fascinating point. What are Eon going to do about the rights? They are maybe three films away from the series' end.
  • Arbogast777Arbogast777 Minneapolis Posts: 252MI6 Agent
    DavidJones wrote:
    That's a fascinating point. What are Eon going to do about the rights? They are maybe three films away from the series' end.

    To put a very complex answer as simply as possible - Danjaq (who technically owns the film rights, not Eon) has so much of the cinematic Bond trademarked that it would be very difficult for another entity to make a Bond film.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    DavidJones wrote:
    ToTheRight wrote:
    DavidJones wrote:

    I think they will save that for when there's been another 1989-95 type break and they have to shout that it's a comeback film.

    I think that would be B26 after a decade gap. I truly think we're in for a long wait after this next film.

    That would be very bad news indeed. We're already in a four and a quarter year gap.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we do get one, but what makes you suspect it?

    The one picture distribution deal is a big factor for me. In addition to the likelihood this will be Craig's last, I'm imagining there will be a longer period of indecision as to what direction to take the series next.

    Normally after a long gap the new film is intended to re-introduce the character of Bond to newer audiences who may never have experienced one on the big screen before. Or re-start the franchise in some way.
    Both GOLDENEYE and CASINO ROYALE were fresh attempts to re-energize the series after considerable space in between. I'd even say SKYFALLL attempted to pull all the stops with the 50th anniversary celebration, and in particular, re-signing of Craig for 2 additional future outings. It seemed past entries following long gaps at least had some sort of future anticipated for the series. The new film doesn't feel like that to me, from what little information we've been given. B25, for all intents and purposes just seems to milk the story arc concept of the Craig era with one more film. I'm hoping once production is underway this will be proven wrong
    and B25 is so amazing, Universal starts planning ahead for future films on a more regular basis.
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    Those films though (GE, CR etc) still have proper titles. Why should the bond series be so dumb as to name a film "James Bond" after a long gap? IMO there is absolutely no excuse for such travesty, even after a long gap.

    And if they worry that people won't know that it's a bond film, all they have to do is advertise it as "the next James Bond film" or "the new James Bond film" etc, without having to contaminate the title.
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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    Jarvio wrote:
    Those films though (GE, CR etc) still have proper titles. Why should the bond series be so dumb as to name a film "James Bond" after a long gap? IMO there is absolutely no excuse for such travesty, even after a long gap.

    And if they worry that people won't know that it's a bond film, all they have to do is advertise it as "the next James Bond film" or "the new James Bond film" etc, without having to contaminate the title.

    I was being sarcastic when I suggested they would name the film “James Bond.” I don’t think they will, and nobody here wants them to. Don’t worry about it.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    The way things seem to be moving along now with Bond 25, I have to wonder if the reports of a bad script needing a complete re-write were a bit overblown. Could the alleged complete re-write by Scott Z. Burns turn out to be more of a script polish?
  • ggl007ggl007 SpainPosts: 388MI6 Agent
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    DavidJones wrote:
    That's a fascinating point. What are Eon going to do about the rights? They are maybe three films away from the series' end.

    To put a very complex answer as simply as possible - Danjaq (who technically owns the film rights, not Eon) has so much of the cinematic Bond trademarked that it would be very difficult for another entity to make a Bond film.

    The EON trademarks don't mean much. You could easily make a film featuring James Bond with infringing on any of EON's marks (which exist for marketing reasons, not creative reasons). You couldn't have a character named "Q" as he is an EON invention as are any of the other characters who didn't exist in Fleming's fiction but did exist in the movies.
  • DavidJonesDavidJones BermondseyPosts: 266MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    DavidJones wrote:
    That's a fascinating point. What are Eon going to do about the rights? They are maybe three films away from the series' end.

    To put a very complex answer as simply as possible - Danjaq (who technically owns the film rights, not Eon) has so much of the cinematic Bond trademarked that it would be very difficult for another entity to make a Bond film.

    The EON trademarks don't mean much. You could easily make a film featuring James Bond with infringing on any of EON's marks (which exist for marketing reasons, not creative reasons). You couldn't have a character named "Q" as he is an EON invention as are any of the other characters who didn't exist in Fleming's fiction but did exist in the movies.

    Yes, and the fact that CR lacked several trademarks (gadgets, Moneypenny, Q) doesn't bode well. Someone could make a similarly stark film.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    EON could probably make a tidy sum licensing the trademarks.
  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,200MI6 Agent
    CR had gadgets: Phone, encryptor, defib.
    Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
  • DavidJonesDavidJones BermondseyPosts: 266MI6 Agent
    CR had gadgets: Phone, encryptor, defib.

    They weren't novelty gadgets as we had come to know them.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,311MI6 Agent
    There was the gadget that was shot into Bond's arm to monitor his vitial signs.
  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,200MI6 Agent
    That was the encryptor. Very cool prop.
    Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,311MI6 Agent
    I didn't know it had a name, but that's a gadget.
  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,200MI6 Agent
    Yep, as I said above. :D
    Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,533MI6 Agent
    That was the encryptor. Very cool prop.

    It was a medical relay unit acting in conjunction with his gps locator. An encryptor converts information into code. Very different things.

    The prop was call a TAGUS unit based upon a real thing.
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,311MI6 Agent
    I chatted with one of my ex-neighbours tonight. Nowadays he lives in Lillehammer, a couple of hours north of the Langvann location. Like me he can't fathom why the Bond producers didn't fins a location with better scenery.
    Did they google "lake + snow + boring"?
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    I chatted with one of my ex-neighbours tonight. Nowadays he lives in Lillehammer, a couple of hours north of the Langvann location. Like me he can't fathom why the Bond producers didn't fins a location with better scenery.
    Did they google "lake + snow + boring"?

    Cinematographers have worked magic on plain looking areas in past films so I'm sure Sandgren can make the area look stunning, I wouldn't worry.

    Although, and I won't mention any direct spoilers in this thread, but...
    could it be that to distinguish the particular scene set at the cabin/lake they might go the CR PTS route with black and white—as it seems from what we know, it will be one of the only similar type scenes we've had in the Craig era? By doing that it wouldn't really matter about the scenery, background colours etc as everything would look quite different from normal anyway
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,311MI6 Agent
    edited March 2019
    I hope, even expect the scene to be a tense drama moment shot expertly. It's just that chosing that location seems like such a waste. Hardly any action adventure movies have shot in this country and I've dreamt of seeing my country in a Bond movie since I became a fan. Tourist busses used to stop by our mailbox when I grew up (both the mailbox and main road has been moved now) and and in the summer season I walk past busloads of Chinese tourists just to buy my groceries. This country (and this region) has something rare, and I'm obviously not the only one to think so. To my disapointment and even surprise they chose a location that's a dime a dozen in most countries that get snow every winter. Imagine an alternate reality where you're from the Bahamas and the Bond franchise never shot a scene there, neither had any other big movies. Imagine beaches and palm trees barely exists outside the Bahamas. When they finally decide to shoot there they don't shoot palm trees or beaches, they film an apartment block. That's pretty much how I feel now :))
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    I wonder if they purposely chose a more ordinary location for a reason? Could it be that they don't want the location to take away from the drama? Is it possible that particular area is more conducive to whatever stunt work and effects will go into that scene? Is the area the scene is taking place supposed to be more isolated and not a place that would attract tourists, sightseers, etc ...a place off the grid that could be a safe haven for someone (and their family) ? Just pondering.
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    Why are we just assuming that’s the only play in Norway they plan to film?
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