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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,582MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    Two films.... You read it here first :))
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/926937/#p926937

    For more on NTTD's strange filming schedule; [WARNING THIS IS IN THE SPOILER NEWS THREAD]
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/955660/#p955660

    Where are you getting two Bond films from? Quoting yourself doesn't count.

    It does count.

    And it counts because I pieced together the strange goings on leading up to the Fukunaga era of the long gestating Bond25 and created a theory that in fact, DC wanted to make a Blofeld trilogy, but didn't want to do two films back-to-back, so they would film Bond25 and Bond26 over an extended period, and The Rhythm Section is a fake film, a cover for Bond25/26 filming. I say both because you can film movies' scenes out of sequence.

    I set out the supporting facts and events that support my theory in two very long posts. This one (read this one first);
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/926937/#p926937

    And this one;
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/928695/#p928695

    While a lot has happened since August last year, a whole year in fact, the most recent fact that supports the secret DC Blofeld trilogy idea is that during the UK tv programme Good Morning Britain's Ross King entertainment editor interview with Lynch, DC and Ana (I think), after the Jamaica Live Reveal, Lashana Lynch said, 'but it's not his last film'. Unfortunately, I can't find this interview online, but I saw it.

    Bond25 has also had a strange filming schedule as I've speculated upon in the spoiler thread. And where is Malek? He doesn't appear to have had a single day shooting outside of Pinewood. Is that not weird? They have 2 months of filming left, out of seven.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    No one would be happier than I if they were actually filming 25 and 26 back to back......but I think you are reaching on this. Theories are lovely, but what you consider "evidence" isn't really "evidence". Evidence is not just happenstance that you twist to support a theory. Please don't get me wrong, I enjoy your breakdowns, details and the effort you put in to developing your theories and hypotheticals. That being said (and I'm going to be a bit of a wise arse here), if you throw enough crap against the wall, something is bound to stick.... and that's ok by me because a lot of the fun around here is trying to figure things out and play Bond producer. I will say, IMO, this is the most locked down Bond production of the internet era. We may not like it, but kudos to EON for better security than some governments. As they say "Once burned...." EON obviously is determined not to have a repeat of the leaks that plagued SPECTRE; I hope they also have put in as much effort in not repeating the problems with SPECTRE as a Bond film. :)) -{
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Someone wrote:
    Two films.... You read it here first :))
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/926937/#p926937

    For more on NTTD's strange filming schedule; [WARNING THIS IS IN THE SPOILER NEWS THREAD]
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/955660/#p955660

    Where are you getting two Bond films from? Quoting yourself doesn't count.

    It does count.

    And it counts because I pieced together the strange goings on leading up to the Fukunaga era of the long gestating Bond25 and created a theory that in fact, DC wanted to make a Blofeld trilogy, but didn't want to do two films back-to-back, so they would film Bond25 and Bond26 over an extended period, and The Rhythm Section is a fake film, a cover for Bond25/26 filming. I say both because you can film movies' scenes out of sequence.

    I set out the supporting facts and events that support my theory in two very long posts. This one (read this one first);
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/926937/#p926937

    And this one;
    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/post/928695/#p928695

    While a lot has happened since August last year, a whole year in fact, the most recent fact that supports the secret DC Blofeld trilogy idea is that during the UK tv programme Good Morning Britain's Ross King entertainment editor interview with Lynch, DC and Ana (I think), after the Jamaica Live Reveal, Lashana Lynch said, 'but it's not his last film'. Unfortunately, I can't find this interview online, but I saw it.

    Bond25 has also had a strange filming schedule as I've speculated upon in the spoiler thread. And where is Malek? He doesn't appear to have had a single day shooting outside of Pinewood. Is that not weird? They have 2 months of filming left, out of seven.

    You made it sound like you got confirmation of your two films theory. Nothing more confirms that. There's no evidence that The Rhythm Section is a cover. I doubt EON will have paid the A-list cast and crew of The Rhythm Section to make a film that is just a cover for another film. That would be impractical, unnecessary and insulting. EON keep secrets, but they wouldn't go this far.

    There's nothing weird about Malek not having any shooting outside of Pinewood.

    I kindly suggest you take some time to educate yourself on the productions of past Bond films and spend less time reading conspiracy theories. There's nothing strange about this filming schedule.
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  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,455MI6 Agent
    I would like nothing more than for EON to be secretly making Bond 25 and 26 concurrently. I'm not sure how this Rhythm Section thing proves it, though.

    That said, there's been a lot about the preproduction and production of NTTD that's felt....strange. By which I mean stranger than normal even for Bond films. The cast interview before the announcement of a title. The clapperboards that suggest a lot more scenes than we can account for. The offhand comments by cast members that NTTD won't be Craig's last film. The fact that we haven't seen Malek at all.

    None of these things mean we're getting Craig's Blofeld trilogy. But they don't definitively disprove the idea either.
  • Arbogast777Arbogast777 Minneapolis Posts: 252MI6 Agent
    edited August 2019
    I'll say this... I enjoy a little Bond talk as much as the next guy but... some of the stuff you read on AJB has gotten really far out there lately.

    My goodness...
  • JarvioJarvio EnglandPosts: 4,241MI6 Agent
    I really hope it's true though.

    Bringing Blofeld back is a massive opportunity to film The Garden Of Death, one of the most significant Fleming plot points that hasn't been filmed yet.

    I have always really wondered why they haven't filmed the garden of death, because it sounds absolutely awesome. And different too.

    They have an opportunity finally, because they have Blofeld back. I will be disappointed if we don't get some iteration of it.

    So if Bond 26 wraps up the Blofeld trilogy, using the material I mentioned, and have Craig's bond end his tenure by killing Blofeld, it would be a dream come true for me. Bonus points if they get it out for 2022, the 60th anniversary of Bond films.

    They were filming a castle weren't they? Plus the shatterhand rumoured title from a while back.
    1 - LALD, 2 - AVTAK, 3 - LTK, 4 - OP, 5 - NTTD, 6 - FYEO, 7 - SF, 8 - DN, 9 - DAF, 10 - TSWLM, 11 - OHMSS, 12 - TMWTGG, 13 - GE, 14 - MR, 15 - TLD, 16 - YOLT, 17 - GF, 18 - DAD, 19 - TWINE, 20 - SP, 21 - TND, 22 - FRWL, 23 - TB, 24 - CR, 25 - QOS

    1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,582MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    You made it sound like you got confirmation of your two films theory.
    That wasn't my intention.
    Matt S wrote:
    I doubt EON will have paid the A-list cast and crew of The Rhythm Section to make a film that is just a cover for another film. That would be impractical, unnecessary and insulting. EON keep secrets, but they wouldn't go this far.
    The only A-lister on TRS' cast is Jude Law as can be seen here https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7134096/
    And that's not how it works. You give a production a title, The Rhythm Section, you make announcements about this and that, but in reality the actual filming that takes place at Pinewood and elsewhere is for scenes from Bond 25 and 26. Blake Lively could easily be a Bond girl. Jude Law is paid a sum of money and told the truth. He goes along with it. Or maybe he gets a cameo as 008? The other actors have bit parts across both Bond25 and 26. Everyone signs an NDA. The remaining scenes for Bond 25 and 26 are filmed during the official NTTD filming period. This would explain the odd filming schedule we've seen. Then in the edit you bring together all the scenes, filmed out of sequence and over a longer than usual period of time.

    TRS didn't film for very long before it went on a long hiatus for many months which was originally explained by an injury to Lively's hand. An injury to a hand! For months of delay. Later we are told that it was a financial situation that led to the delay. Babs Broccoli's Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool had no such problems. And TRS is said to be a spy film, by the people whose raison d'etre is spy films! Really? Financial problems for an EON spy film?!
    Matt S wrote:
    There's nothing weird about Malek not having any shooting outside of Pinewood.
    True, but that doesn't undermine my premise.
    Matt S wrote:
    I kindly suggest you take some time to educate yourself on the productions of past Bond films and spend less time reading conspiracy theories. There's nothing strange about this filming schedule.
    Ooh, get her!
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    The only A-lister on TRS' cast is Jude Law as can be seen here https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7134096/
    And that's not how it works. You give a production a title, The Rhythm Section, you make announcements about this and that, but in reality the actual filming that takes place at Pinewood and elsewhere is for scenes from Bond 25 and 26. Blake Lively could easily be a Bond girl. Jude Law is paid a sum of money and told the truth. He goes along with it. Or maybe he gets a cameo as 008? The other actors have bit parts across both Bond25 and 26. Everyone signs an NDA. The remaining scenes for Bond 25 and 26 are filmed during the official NTTD filming period. This would explain the odd filming schedule we've seen. Then in the edit you bring together all the scenes, filmed out of sequence and over a longer than usual period of time.

    TRS didn't film for very long before it went on a long hiatus for many months which was originally explained by an injury to Lively's hand. An injury to a hand! For months of delay. Later we are told that it was a financial situation that led to the delay. Babs Broccoli's Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool had no such problems. And TRS is said to be a spy film, by the people whose raison d'etre is spy films! Really? Financial problems for an EON spy film?!
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,318MI6 Agent
    Haha - sorry but I dont buy it for all that hassle. What would be the point of a decoy film when we are getting so much footage from various locations anyhow - hardly top secret.

    Its not as if they are going to surprise a new Bond film on us we already have a release date
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    You made it sound like you got confirmation of your two films theory.
    That wasn't my intention.
    Matt S wrote:
    I doubt EON will have paid the A-list cast and crew of The Rhythm Section to make a film that is just a cover for another film. That would be impractical, unnecessary and insulting. EON keep secrets, but they wouldn't go this far.
    The only A-lister on TRS' cast is Jude Law as can be seen here https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7134096/
    And that's not how it works. You give a production a title, The Rhythm Section, you make announcements about this and that, but in reality the actual filming that takes place at Pinewood and elsewhere is for scenes from Bond 25 and 26. Blake Lively could easily be a Bond girl. Jude Law is paid a sum of money and told the truth. He goes along with it. Or maybe he gets a cameo as 008? The other actors have bit parts across both Bond25 and 26. Everyone signs an NDA. The remaining scenes for Bond 25 and 26 are filmed during the official NTTD filming period. This would explain the odd filming schedule we've seen. Then in the edit you bring together all the scenes, filmed out of sequence and over a longer than usual period of time.

    TRS didn't film for very long before it went on a long hiatus for many months which was originally explained by an injury to Lively's hand. An injury to a hand! For months of delay. Later we are told that it was a financial situation that led to the delay. Babs Broccoli's Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool had no such problems. And TRS is said to be a spy film, by the people whose raison d'etre is spy films! Really? Financial problems for an EON spy film?!
    Matt S wrote:
    There's nothing weird about Malek not having any shooting outside of Pinewood.
    True, but that doesn't undermine my premise.
    Matt S wrote:
    I kindly suggest you take some time to educate yourself on the productions of past Bond films and spend less time reading conspiracy theories. There's nothing strange about this filming schedule.
    Ooh, get her!

    Please explain the filming for TRS on the streets of New York. Just a setup?
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  • Gassy ManGassy Man USAPosts: 2,972MI6 Agent
    It certainly would be interesting if they released two movies instead of one. Wouldn't it be great if the first part was early in the year and the second in the more traditional period at the end?
  • canoe2canoe2 Posts: 2,007MI6 Agent
    The 2nd movie could be called "NOW it's time to die" :p
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    With regards to all the mystery and conspiracy theories regarding NTTD's "strange shooting schedule": I think Someone was on to something regarding much of DC's (and possibly Rami Malek's scenes) being shot at Pinewood on sound stages. Shooting on sound stages and on studio back lots has been part of movie magic since the silent era. Considering the possibility that a chunk of scenes are to be inside of a castle, it is very possible that the actual castle is only being used for exterior shots and the interior of the castle has been constructed on a sound stage. Also, there were reports of a gun battle being staged at Pinewood, which would be much safer and easier to shoot at the studio and much easier to stage and do the camera and lighting set-up especially given Fukunaga's love of long, unedited tracking shots. Just to add my theoretical/hypothetical two cents, is it not possible that the shooting order was changed to allow time for Craig to fully recover from his ankle injury hence pushing back his direct participation in the more physically demanding action sequences that require more running, jumping, fisticuffs, etc ?
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,582MI6 Agent
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    1. We know EON has wanted to do two films back-to-back, DC admitted he said no to it, back in 2012/13.
    2. DC is now 51, he isn't going to be Bond for much longer.
    3. DC's films have reintroduced Blofeld and Spectre, were they really only going to do that for Spectre? No, we now know they are doing another Spectre/Blofeld film.
    4. Fleming has his Blofeld trilogy, Connery had Thunderball, YOLT and DAF. DC will have Spectre, NTTD and Bond26.
    5. Any Studio would drool at the prospect of two Bond movies in quick succession.
    6. Do we really think Universal Pictures signed on for just one movie?
    7. Think of the marketing impact of announcing NTTD for April and Bond26 for November. A Bond movie filmed in secret. Minds. Blown.
    8. DC is a self confessed Bond fan, he has even become a co-producer on the movies. He would want to do a Spectre trilogy to bow out on. IMHO.
    9. Lashana Lynch admitted during an interview that NTTD is not DC's last film.
    10. Any Studio would drool at the prospect of two Bond movies in quick succession. (Just to repeat this point)
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,582MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Please explain the filming for TRS on the streets of New York. Just a setup?

    It's simple. THE TRS FILMING IS BOND25/26 FILMING.

    They filmed scenes for Bond25 and Bond26 when they were 'filming' TRS. Do you follow?

    Crew and cast sign NDAs.

    They tell the media its TRS. But, in fact the scenes filmed are for Bond25 and Bond26.

    You do not need to film scenes in a film's chronlogical order. The last scene for Bond26 could have been filmed in New York, for all we know.

    Is that clear now?
  • TennysonTennyson A View to a KillPosts: 606MI6 Agent
    Mmm... I’m not convinced. I know most of us would like to see another film sooner, and if they did 2 at once then great, but if you look at this whole NTTD process objectively there is no evidence of anything other than a regular filming schedule. I love your enthusiasm Someone, and I know nothing about film making, but what I do understand is evidence, professionally. I can say that in your breakdown of points in the post before this, along with your extensive summaries of your thoughts, there is not one shred of evidence that points to what you wish for. It’s not even close to circumstantial evidence, it’s all conjecture, wishful thinking, using unsubstantiated rumours and leaks to fit your narrative and making 2+2 equal 5.... for example, Lasha says it’s not DCs last film, DC says it is, both, according to you have signed NDA’s, so one is lying.... you say it’s DC because that fits your ideal, what if it’s Lasha, (maybe she was mistaken, or mis-spoke... ). If Lasha (and you) are correct, she has breached the NDA... I don’t think she is that stupid... anyway, on balance, looking at everything you suggest, it’s just not something I would bet the house on, would you?
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    I don't believe they're filming two Bond films at the same time. That would take a year or more of filming. That's a vast undertaking. Craig ruled it out anyway. He was tired at the end of SPECTRE's filming and that lasted around seven months so imagine how he would feel after twelve!

    It's possible Bond 26 can be fast tracked into production for the 60th anniversary year - 2022 but if that happens I'm assuming a new actor will be cast and, who knows, Chris Nolan might be the director. Given the long gaps between Bond 24 and Bond 25 a 2022 Bond 26 does look very unlikely but you never know. ;)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Interesting discussion but the rumour of two films being filmed together has been
    around for quite a few years now, at least since QOS. If true, Great news, we'll get
    two films in quick succession ....... but I don't believe it is happening.
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  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    I think Craig values the time when he's not acting. He also has a wife and a child. He'd be away from his family for so long (assuming he didn't want his young child with him on location).
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    edited August 2019
    Cool fan poster:

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    Image by licencetocreate.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,582MI6 Agent
    bonded123 wrote:
    I think Craig values the time when he's not acting. He also has a wife and a child. He'd be away from his family for so long (assuming he didn't want his young child with him on location).

    That's why you do it over an extended period of time, not a straight 12-14 months of filming. The Rhythm Section is a cover for that initial period of filming, because they have to explain what they are doing, have a cover story.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,582MI6 Agent
    bonded123 wrote:
    Cool fan poster:

    Image by licencetocreate.

    I'd be amazed if that isn't almost exactly what we get.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    bonded123 wrote:
    I think Craig values the time when he's not acting. He also has a wife and a child. He'd be away from his family for so long (assuming he didn't want his young child with him on location).

    That's why you do it over an extended period of time, not a straight 12-14 months of filming. The Rhythm Section is a cover for that initial period of filming, because they have to explain what they are doing, have a cover story.

    This is where any real evidence or credibility go out the window and wishful thinking and the "feint" theory that never goes away rears its head once again......but to be perfectly honest, I actually hope you are right. :))

    Oh yes....and that teaser poster is probably so close to the real thing that the creator should get some royalties.
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    bonded123 wrote:
    Cool fan poster:

    Image by licencetocreate.

    I'd be amazed if that isn't almost exactly what we get.
    Well, there hasn't been an imaginative poster since Casino Royale....or maybe even Goldeneye....or A View To A Kill...or...
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  • You'veHadYourSixYou'veHadYourSix Posts: 79MI6 Agent
    I know it's been said a few times, we may get a teaser trailer for "no time to die" between sept-november 2019, but does anyone have any ideas when filming is set said to wrap pricipal photography?
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,582MI6 Agent
    I know it's been said a few times, we may get a teaser trailer for "no time to die" between sept-november 2019, but does anyone have any ideas when filming is set said to wrap pricipal photography?

    Fukunaga told Prince Charles that they film until October. MI6-hq.com, which has some good sources and often gets a scoop, said in a recent tweet that filming in Italy will go on until late October. Bond films are often 7 month shoots and they started at the end of April, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some early November filming.
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    bonded123 wrote:
    I think Craig values the time when he's not acting. He also has a wife and a child. He'd be away from his family for so long (assuming he didn't want his young child with him on location).

    That's why you do it over an extended period of time, not a straight 12-14 months of filming. The Rhythm Section is a cover for that initial period of filming, because they have to explain what they are doing, have a cover story.

    You're joking with us, surely? :D Are you seriously suggesting Blake Lively didn't make The Rhythm Section? That she conspired with Eon Productions to fake a role? Why would she do that? How does that benefit her career? And if you're correct, she also faked a hand injury too? After all, it's a fake film so it must be a fake injury!

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    :D
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Someone wrote:
    I know it's been said a few times, we may get a teaser trailer for "no time to die" between sept-november 2019, but does anyone have any ideas when filming is set said to wrap pricipal photography?

    Fukunaga told Prince Charles that they film until October. MI6-hq.com, which has some good sources and often gets a scoop, said in a recent tweet that filming in Italy will go on until late October. Bond films are often 7 month shoots and they started at the end of April, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some early November filming.
    Wow only about two months left of filming? Anyone else feel like the filming of this has flown by in comparison to previous Bonds?
  • bonded123bonded123 Posts: 291MI6 Agent
    edited August 2019
    Well considering there's two Bond films being made at the same time ('someone' has told us this!) I doubt they'll finish filming before the premiere around the 2nd April. :)) :s
  • Mr MartiniMr Martini That nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,707MI6 Agent
    bonded123 wrote:
    Well considering there's two Bond films being made at the same time ('someone' has told us this!) I doubt they'll finish filming before the premiere around the 2nd April. :)) :s

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