I hope Blofeld remains in jail in Bond25 (at least until the end of the movie). Ideally the movie is about a SPECTRE attempt to break Blofeld free, perhaps by extortion. Set Blofeld free or we blow up this vulcano in the Canary Islands that will create a tsunami all over the Atlantic or something like that.
Well! He also said that before Spectre, even though with a film called Spectre it was pretty definite Blofeld would be in it, him playing Blofeld was the worst kept secret going.
I hope this means that Blofeld will not appear in bond 25 and that we are distancing bond from that Ill thought out storylne of you know what.
I hope this means that Blofeld will not appear in bond 25 and that we are distancing bond from that Ill thought out storylne of you know what.
Yeah I think this is what EON will do - learn their lesson from fan response and ignore him for a few films, letting that part of Blofeld's story fade away
Well I hope so anyhow!
Let him break out of jail in a total new era with Nolan etc or something!
Well! He also said that before Spectre, even though with a film called Spectre it was pretty definite Blofeld would be in it, him playing Blofeld was the worst kept secret going.
I hope this means that Blofeld will not appear in bond 25 and that we are distancing bond from that Ill thought out storylne of you know what.
Before SPECTRE he didn't deny being in the movie, just that he was playing Blofeld.
Really good news from my point of view. He's a good actor, but had little to work with and like Bautista and Bellucci was wasted, no worse squandered in Spectre. Like many others I hope that this means that the doomed story arc will be left alone.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
I am ok either way. But as we all know, when it comes to a Bond film a significant time before production or before any official announcements are made, take everything anyone says with a very large grain of salt. While some are of the belief that the end of SPECTRE tied things up I am of the other school of thought....it left things wide open. With Blofeld rotting away in jail they are free to pursue whatever they choose in 25. Madeliene and Bond could have moved on from each other for any number of reasons and things are free and clear for anything they want to do. There are plenty of Madeleines out there but only one Queen and Country and we all know where Bond's heart really is. Over the years, EON have become masters at moving out of corners they have painted themselves into....no worries.
In a way, as a lover of perfect continuity, I'm sad Waltz isn't returning, even if he wasn't anything special IMO. However, I absolutely love that the tradition of re casting Blofeld each time is onto using here. Best way to explain it would be plastic surgery, so have the new actor play Blofeld without the scar but with the eye.
Plus, as Craig has now been against a grey haired Blofeld, I think it's only right Blofeld is bald in the next film, just so we can have Craig battle the two distinctive appearances of Blofeld.
Oh, and I do like the idea of using Blofeld as the drive of the plot, as suggested by Number24 by having SPECTRE threaten to do something if he isn't released. That way, we can also get a proper "here's your mission" film.
There's no reason to believe Blofeld isn't returning. Aside from the notion that Waltz may be pulling our leg, in the books, he is fond of plastic surgery. They could easily cast another actor in the role, starting the film with Blofeld having broken out of captivity and been on the lam. I don't think the writing team will come up with anything remarkably imaginative about how or a grand set piece like the old Bonds.
I didn’t think there could be a worse Bond villain than Silva......until the Spectre version of Blofeld appeared. Please let there be no Blofeld or Spectre in Bond 25.
Blofeld needs to return. I know what people are saying when they want Blofeld and SPECTRE to take a step back in the next film or 2, but this is most likely DC's last, and a standalone mission for his last would feel weird and out of place because it's not DC's arc, you may aswell start as you mean to go on. DC's arc needs to finish with the death of Blofeld, simple as.
If Blofeld is not in #25, then he and DC need to both return for #26. Otherwise it's not gonna work IMO.
People wanting Blofeld and SPECTRE gone can just wait for the next bond actor and a clean slate, which makes way more sense IMO.
Now, on that interview where Waltz says "a tradition that there is a new..." I took it to mean a new villain, or a new actor playing Blofeld like in YOLT/OHMSS/DAF. So it's possible that Blofeld is back, but played by someone else, as is tradition.
Blofeld needs to return. I know what people are saying when they want Blofeld and SPECTRE to take a step back in the next film or 2, but this is most likely DC's last, and a standalone mission for his last would feel weird and out of place because it's not DC's arc, you may aswell start as you mean to go on. DC's arc needs to finish with the death of Blofeld, simple as.
If Blofeld is not in #25, then he and DC need to both return for #26. Otherwise it's not gonna work IMO.
People wanting Blofeld and SPECTRE gone can just wait for the next bond actor and a clean slate, which makes way more sense IMO.
Now, on that interview where Waltz says "a tradition that there is a new..." I took it to mean a new villain, or a new actor playing Blofeld like in YOLT/OHMSS/DAF. So it's possible that Blofeld is back, but played by someone else, as is tradition.
Yes it might well mean just that, although I hope it doesn't. I don't think most film goers care about narrative arc very much. Most people that I spoke with (not Bond nerds) just felt it was a bit pointless and added nothing to the film. If he must come back, then a new actor is preferable to Waltz who to me seemed to just sleepwalk his way to payday. He was visibly lacklustre during the press Junkets as was DC. It felt to me that there was not much enthusiasm from anyone (even Babs seemed underwhelmed) Time will tell.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Will audiences today accept Blofeld played by a new actor? They won't know that the "plastic surgery" story is from Fleming and think it's a lame excuse for a new actor in the role.
Will audiences today accept Blofeld played by a new actor? They won't know that the "plastic surgery" story is from Fleming and think it's a lame excuse for a new actor in the role.
Also, didn't Waltz say that he would return of Daniel returned?
Will audiences today accept Blofeld played by a new actor? They won't know that the "plastic surgery" story is from Fleming and think it's a lame excuse for a new actor in the role.
Also, didn't Waltz say that he would return of Daniel returned?
Saying he wanted to doesn't mean that he is wanted.
I hope Waltz didn't get fired
it wasn't his fault SPECTRE had serious issues, that was the writers, please tell me they've been fired
and of course the producers, who apparently didn't know there was already something called Goldmember
and whatever work culture prevented underlings from telling their bosses there was already something called Goldmember
why should there be a new actor playing Blofeld just cuz that's the way they did it in the Connery era? that's no argument
there also used to be a different Leiter in every film in the Connery era
they've finally fixed that, and we got the same Leiter two films in a row, like there always should have been
so if they can do that, they can keep the same Blofeld
I too wonder what exactly he was about to say
seems like he wasn't comfortable with the question, for whatever reason, and in attempting to answer realised midway he was saying too much ... maybe there's a nondisclosure issue?
Just my theory: either Waltz is fibbing or Blofeld isn't in 25. I highly doubt they would cast another actor this soon. It would be much easier to cast a new Blofeld when the next Bond is cast. If there is a good script for 25 with a compelling story and a great villain, Blofeld will be out of site, out of mind. One thing we have not had any even remotely credible rumors about is the script. EON appears to have really upped the security around things this time after the Sony hack...which is why there is probably some reality behind Villenueve being a strong possibility as director. If EON didn't want that out there, they would have put a gag order on the prospective director and had him deny, deny. Just his confirmation of talks with EON makes me lean toward believing his signing on is a done deal. EON is fine with some of the good stuff getting out...they want to make sure they control the information this time around and slowly build up a very positive buzz around the film.
If Waltz is not back, but Blofeld is, what actors do peeps think could take on the role? I saw one website suggest German director/actor Werner Herzog, but how about actors only slightly older than DC;
Andy Serkis
Mark Strong
Christopher Eccelston
David Morrissey
Of the four movie Blofelds, two have already been British actors.
It's possible Blofeld is only in the last scene of Bond25, when he escapes from prison. Maybe that's the reason Waltz says he isn't in it, to make it a surprise ending?
It's possible Blofeld is only in the last scene of Bond25, when he escapes from prison. Maybe that's the reason Waltz says he isn't in it, to make it a surprise ending?
It's possible Blofeld is only in the last scene of Bond25, when he escapes from prison. Maybe that's the reason Waltz says he isn't in it, to make it a surprise ending?
It's possible Blofeld is only in the last scene of Bond25, when he escapes from prison. Maybe that's the reason Waltz says he isn't in it, to make it a surprise ending?
I like that idea.
I don't want Irma Bunt to return. IMO, the only villain that should ever return in the reboot timeline is Blofeld, and no more.
I hope Waltz was telling the truth. His Blofeld was boring and lacked any real menace, and the foster brother's thing was straight out of Austin Powers. Which is funny considering Craig's Bond is becoming what it was originally trying to get away from. What makes Blofeld such a great villain anyway? Because he sits in a chair and pushes buttons? I don't really get why he's so revered in the Bond lexicon outside of OHMSS. I would prefer if they just created an original villain rather then trying to make modern audiences try to care about Blofeld again.
A question that will be answered in just over a week, possibly, but I am wondering if the MGM, Annapurna announcement yesterday saying Bond25 distribution would be announced at a later date and Barbara Broccoli's previous comment about them not being ready to announce a director, means we could see a Bond25 distributor/director announcement on Thursday 9 November, two years before its US release? Or maybe Tuesday 14 November, 11 years after DC's Casino Royale was released in the US?
What makes Blofeld such a great villain anyway? Because he sits in a chair and pushes buttons? I don't really get why he's so revered in the Bond lexicon outside of OHMSS.
in the first four and a half films he was the mysterious big baddy behind all the other baddies. He was mostly left to our imagination, outside of the white cat and the pushing-the-button-to-kill-the-underling thing. Possibly every viewer had their own personal image as to exactly how evil this unseen presence must really be, and I'm sure at the time it was a shock to a few viewers to finally see effete little Donald Pleasance prancing around taunting big hulking Sean Connery. Which in and of itself was kind of a cool trick.
And of course Savalas' big tough hands-on approach to the character was great, and almost the polar opposite to Pleasance's interpretation.
The fact that Blofeld killed Bond's wife is part of the mystique, and led to a great resolution in Fleming's books, the resolution of Bond's whole career and Fleming's saga. Unfortunately we never got to see Bond's emotionally driven downfall and revenge in the films, and we're not going to be able to see that with our new Blofeld either unless he kills another BondWife.
I would prefer if they just created an original villain rather then trying to make modern audiences try to care about Blofeld again.
They went to a whole lot of trouble to regain the rights to McClory's intellectual properties. They're not going to kill off Blofeld, they will inevitably use the character again, even if he's not in the next film.
in some convoluted way that's sort of how he got to be in Diamonds are Forever... the filmmakers replaced the Spang Brothers with Goldfinger's brother, then they replaced Goldfinger's brother with Blofeld. and Goldfinger was the only original villain with no apparent connection to Blofeld, so Thunderpussy I think you have finally found the way to link all the Connery movies together!
A question that will be answered in just over a week, possibly, but I am wondering if the MGM, Annapurna announcement yesterday saying Bond25 distribution would be announced at a later date and Barbara Broccoli's previous comment about them not being ready to announce a director, means we could see a Bond25 distributor/director announcement on Thursday 9 November, two years before its US release? Or maybe Tuesday 14 November, 11 years after DC's Casino Royale was released in the US?
Well, if BB is unwilling/unable to name a director and a distributor that gives us Nolan fans reason to hope. Nolan announces his next project usually 18-21 months before the release date which, if Bond 25, would be next Feb-May.
And if it's Nolan directing, then it will be WB distributing.
It's odd that a distributor hasn't be announced by this point (approximately 12 months before shooting will start) unless there's a really good reason to withhold that information. Usually actors/directors won't sign on unless they're sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie.
Well, if BB is unwilling/unable to name a director and a distributor that gives us Nolan fans reason to hope. Nolan announces his next project usually 18-21 months before the release date which, if Bond 25, would be next Feb-May.
And if it's Nolan directing, then it will be WB distributing.
It's odd that a distributor hasn't be announced by this point (approximately 12 months before shooting will start) unless there's a really good reason to withhold that information. Usually actors/directors won't sign on unless they're sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie.
I agree that it is a bit odd that a distributor has not yet been named but Craig officially returning may have changed the stakes in negotiations. With regard to actors/directors not signing on unless they are sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie, Bond is probably an exception....it's not really a matter of getting the financial backing, just who will be the third partner. I believe that there is an agreement at least in principal with a director (I don't believe Craig would have signed on if there wasn't).
Relative to Nolan's involvement with Bond, IMO Nolan would more than likely start fresh with a new Bond actor but one never knows.
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I hope Blofeld remains in jail in Bond25 (at least until the end of the movie). Ideally the movie is about a SPECTRE attempt to break Blofeld free, perhaps by extortion. Set Blofeld free or we blow up this vulcano in the Canary Islands that will create a tsunami all over the Atlantic or something like that.
I hope this means that Blofeld will not appear in bond 25 and that we are distancing bond from that Ill thought out storylne of you know what.
Yeah I think this is what EON will do - learn their lesson from fan response and ignore him for a few films, letting that part of Blofeld's story fade away
Well I hope so anyhow!
Let him break out of jail in a total new era with Nolan etc or something!
Before SPECTRE he didn't deny being in the movie, just that he was playing Blofeld.
Plus, as Craig has now been against a grey haired Blofeld, I think it's only right Blofeld is bald in the next film, just so we can have Craig battle the two distinctive appearances of Blofeld.
Oh, and I do like the idea of using Blofeld as the drive of the plot, as suggested by Number24 by having SPECTRE threaten to do something if he isn't released. That way, we can also get a proper "here's your mission" film.
If Blofeld is not in #25, then he and DC need to both return for #26. Otherwise it's not gonna work IMO.
People wanting Blofeld and SPECTRE gone can just wait for the next bond actor and a clean slate, which makes way more sense IMO.
Now, on that interview where Waltz says "a tradition that there is a new..." I took it to mean a new villain, or a new actor playing Blofeld like in YOLT/OHMSS/DAF. So it's possible that Blofeld is back, but played by someone else, as is tradition.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Yes it might well mean just that, although I hope it doesn't. I don't think most film goers care about narrative arc very much. Most people that I spoke with (not Bond nerds) just felt it was a bit pointless and added nothing to the film. If he must come back, then a new actor is preferable to Waltz who to me seemed to just sleepwalk his way to payday. He was visibly lacklustre during the press Junkets as was DC. It felt to me that there was not much enthusiasm from anyone (even Babs seemed underwhelmed) Time will tell.
Saying he wanted to doesn't mean that he is wanted.
it wasn't his fault SPECTRE had serious issues, that was the writers, please tell me they've been fired
and of course the producers, who apparently didn't know there was already something called Goldmember
and whatever work culture prevented underlings from telling their bosses there was already something called Goldmember
why should there be a new actor playing Blofeld just cuz that's the way they did it in the Connery era? that's no argument
there also used to be a different Leiter in every film in the Connery era
they've finally fixed that, and we got the same Leiter two films in a row, like there always should have been
so if they can do that, they can keep the same Blofeld
I too wonder what exactly he was about to say
seems like he wasn't comfortable with the question, for whatever reason, and in attempting to answer realised midway he was saying too much ... maybe there's a nondisclosure issue?
Andy Serkis
Mark Strong
Christopher Eccelston
David Morrissey
Of the four movie Blofelds, two have already been British actors.
I don't want Irma Bunt to return. IMO, the only villain that should ever return in the reboot timeline is Blofeld, and no more.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
And of course Savalas' big tough hands-on approach to the character was great, and almost the polar opposite to Pleasance's interpretation.
The fact that Blofeld killed Bond's wife is part of the mystique, and led to a great resolution in Fleming's books, the resolution of Bond's whole career and Fleming's saga. Unfortunately we never got to see Bond's emotionally driven downfall and revenge in the films, and we're not going to be able to see that with our new Blofeld either unless he kills another BondWife. They went to a whole lot of trouble to regain the rights to McClory's intellectual properties. They're not going to kill off Blofeld, they will inevitably use the character again, even if he's not in the next film.
EDIT: in some convoluted way that's sort of how he got to be in Diamonds are Forever... the filmmakers replaced the Spang Brothers with Goldfinger's brother, then they replaced Goldfinger's brother with Blofeld. and Goldfinger was the only original villain with no apparent connection to Blofeld, so Thunderpussy I think you have finally found the way to link all the Connery movies together!
Well, if BB is unwilling/unable to name a director and a distributor that gives us Nolan fans reason to hope. Nolan announces his next project usually 18-21 months before the release date which, if Bond 25, would be next Feb-May.
And if it's Nolan directing, then it will be WB distributing.
It's odd that a distributor hasn't be announced by this point (approximately 12 months before shooting will start) unless there's a really good reason to withhold that information. Usually actors/directors won't sign on unless they're sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie.
I agree that it is a bit odd that a distributor has not yet been named but Craig officially returning may have changed the stakes in negotiations. With regard to actors/directors not signing on unless they are sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie, Bond is probably an exception....it's not really a matter of getting the financial backing, just who will be the third partner. I believe that there is an agreement at least in principal with a director (I don't believe Craig would have signed on if there wasn't).
Relative to Nolan's involvement with Bond, IMO Nolan would more than likely start fresh with a new Bond actor but one never knows.