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  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    Gala Brand wrote:
    Well, if BB is unwilling/unable to name a director and a distributor that gives us Nolan fans reason to hope. Nolan announces his next project usually 18-21 months before the release date which, if Bond 25, would be next Feb-May.
    And if it's Nolan directing, then it will be WB distributing.
    It's odd that a distributor hasn't be announced by this point (approximately 12 months before shooting will start) unless there's a really good reason to withhold that information. Usually actors/directors won't sign on unless they're sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie.

    I agree that it is a bit odd that a distributor has not yet been named but Craig officially returning may have changed the stakes in negotiations. With regard to actors/directors not signing on unless they are sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie, Bond is probably an exception....it's not really a matter of getting the financial backing, just who will be the third partner. I believe that there is an agreement at least in principal with a director (I don't believe Craig would have signed on if there wasn't).
    Relative to Nolan's involvement with Bond, IMO Nolan would more than likely start fresh with a new Bond actor but one never knows.

    If Craig doesn't know who the director is because a director hasn't been selected, then it means he's welling to risk another Spectre cluster screw up, and he's just doing Bond 25 for the dough. If he knows who the director is and it's somebody like Villenueve, then it means that he's doing it for the dough because when push comes to shove, Villenueve will lose out to the bean counters the same way Mendes (who has more of a track record) did. That is, with somebody like Villenueve, Craig has no idea what the final script will look like.

    The only director who is interested in doing Bond 25 and who could possibly have final script approval is Nolan.

    If the director is somebody other than Nolan and Bond 25 turns out to be another Spectre, Craig will have only himself to blame.

    And since the third partner will need to come up with at least $250 million to get Bond 25 produced and marketed, if I were a director or actor I wouldn't make a commitment to Bond 25 until the deal is done.
  • HalfMonk HalfHitmanHalfMonk HalfHitman USAPosts: 2,353MI6 Agent
    The only director who is interested in doing Bond 25 and who could possibly have final script approval is Nolan.

    If the director is somebody other than Nolan and Bond 25 turns out to be another Spectre, Craig will have only himself to blame.

    You're gonna sprain something with that reach :))
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    So many assumptions
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    Gala Brand wrote:
    Well, if BB is unwilling/unable to name a director and a distributor that gives us Nolan fans reason to hope. Nolan announces his next project usually 18-21 months before the release date which, if Bond 25, would be next Feb-May.
    And if it's Nolan directing, then it will be WB distributing.
    It's odd that a distributor hasn't be announced by this point (approximately 12 months before shooting will start) unless there's a really good reason to withhold that information. Usually actors/directors won't sign on unless they're sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie.

    I agree that it is a bit odd that a distributor has not yet been named but Craig officially returning may have changed the stakes in negotiations. With regard to actors/directors not signing on unless they are sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie, Bond is probably an exception....it's not really a matter of getting the financial backing, just who will be the third partner. I believe that there is an agreement at least in principal with a director (I don't believe Craig would have signed on if there wasn't).
    Relative to Nolan's involvement with Bond, IMO Nolan would more than likely start fresh with a new Bond actor but one never knows.

    If Craig doesn't know who the director is because a director hasn't been selected, then it means he's welling to risk another Spectre cluster screw up, and he's just doing Bond 25 for the dough. If he knows who the director is and it's somebody like Villenueve, then it means that he's doing it for the dough because when push comes to shove, Villenueve will lose out to the bean counters the same way Mendes (who has more of a track record) did. That is, with somebody like Villenueve, Craig has no idea what the final script will look like.

    The only director who is interested in doing Bond 25 and who could possibly have final script approval is Nolan.

    If the director is somebody other than Nolan and Bond 25 turns out to be another Spectre, Craig will have only himself to blame.

    And since the third partner will need to come up with at least $250 million to get Bond 25 produced and marketed, if I were a director or actor I wouldn't make a commitment to Bond 25 until the deal is done.

    Sorry to break it to you, but Purvis and and Wade have already been hired to write Bond 25. I know you're talking about the final script, but the script they start with also matters. If a director has already been selected, it would not have been Nolan because Nolan would not be starting with a Purvis and Wade script.

    Also, while Nolan has expressed interest in doing a Bond film, it really sounded like he had no interest in doing Bond 25. He said that he doesn't think he is needed now and that he would have to be needed.

    On the other hand, if they don't have a director yet and Nolan comes on board, I'm sure Purvis and Wade could be fired with their ideas scrapped. I don't picture Nolan revising a Purvis and Wade script.
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Gala Brand wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    Gala Brand wrote:
    Well, if BB is unwilling/unable to name a director and a distributor that gives us Nolan fans reason to hope. Nolan announces his next project usually 18-21 months before the release date which, if Bond 25, would be next Feb-May.
    And if it's Nolan directing, then it will be WB distributing.
    It's odd that a distributor hasn't be announced by this point (approximately 12 months before shooting will start) unless there's a really good reason to withhold that information. Usually actors/directors won't sign on unless they're sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie.

    I agree that it is a bit odd that a distributor has not yet been named but Craig officially returning may have changed the stakes in negotiations. With regard to actors/directors not signing on unless they are sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie, Bond is probably an exception....it's not really a matter of getting the financial backing, just who will be the third partner. I believe that there is an agreement at least in principal with a director (I don't believe Craig would have signed on if there wasn't).
    Relative to Nolan's involvement with Bond, IMO Nolan would more than likely start fresh with a new Bond actor but one never knows.

    If Craig doesn't know who the director is because a director hasn't been selected, then it means he's welling to risk another Spectre cluster screw up, and he's just doing Bond 25 for the dough. If he knows who the director is and it's somebody like Villenueve, then it means that he's doing it for the dough because when push comes to shove, Villenueve will lose out to the bean counters the same way Mendes (who has more of a track record) did. That is, with somebody like Villenueve, Craig has no idea what the final script will look like.

    The only director who is interested in doing Bond 25 and who could possibly have final script approval is Nolan.

    If the director is somebody other than Nolan and Bond 25 turns out to be another Spectre, Craig will have only himself to blame.

    And since the third partner will need to come up with at least $250 million to get Bond 25 produced and marketed, if I were a director or actor I wouldn't make a commitment to Bond 25 until the deal is done.
    I don't think Mendes was anymore qualified for Bond then Villeneuve would be, besides having worked with Craig before. If anything Denis is probably in a better positon to tackle a big budget franchise film like Bond after helming Blade Runner 2049.
  • Gala BrandGala Brand Posts: 1,172MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Gala Brand wrote:
    HowardB wrote:

    I agree that it is a bit odd that a distributor has not yet been named but Craig officially returning may have changed the stakes in negotiations. With regard to actors/directors not signing on unless they are sure there's sufficient financial backing for a movie, Bond is probably an exception....it's not really a matter of getting the financial backing, just who will be the third partner. I believe that there is an agreement at least in principal with a director (I don't believe Craig would have signed on if there wasn't).
    Relative to Nolan's involvement with Bond, IMO Nolan would more than likely start fresh with a new Bond actor but one never knows.

    If Craig doesn't know who the director is because a director hasn't been selected, then it means he's welling to risk another Spectre cluster screw up, and he's just doing Bond 25 for the dough. If he knows who the director is and it's somebody like Villenueve, then it means that he's doing it for the dough because when push comes to shove, Villenueve will lose out to the bean counters the same way Mendes (who has more of a track record) did. That is, with somebody like Villenueve, Craig has no idea what the final script will look like.

    The only director who is interested in doing Bond 25 and who could possibly have final script approval is Nolan.

    If the director is somebody other than Nolan and Bond 25 turns out to be another Spectre, Craig will have only himself to blame.

    And since the third partner will need to come up with at least $250 million to get Bond 25 produced and marketed, if I were a director or actor I wouldn't make a commitment to Bond 25 until the deal is done.

    Sorry to break it to you, but Purvis and and Wade have already been hired to write Bond 25. I know you're talking about the final script, but the script they start with also matters. If a director has already been selected, it would not have been Nolan because Nolan would not be starting with a Purvis and Wade script.

    Also, while Nolan has expressed interest in doing a Bond film, it really sounded like he had no interest in doing Bond 25. He said that he doesn't think he is needed now and that he would have to be needed.

    On the other hand, if they don't have a director yet and Nolan comes on board, I'm sure Purvis and Wade could be fired with their ideas scrapped. I don't picture Nolan revising a Purvis and Wade script.

    Hey, even I know that P&W were supposed to produce a Bond script by last March.

    That was probably part of the deal they struck when they agreed to do the re-write of Spectre.

    I hope it ends up in EON's library of unproduced Bond scripts, which I am sure is enormous and probably contains any number of other P&W scripts.

    As for Nolan, I'm sure we'll know within six months if he's doing Bond 25 or something else as he puts out a film every 2 to 21/2 years, which means he'll need to start filming his next project in the latter half of 2018 at the latest.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    Will Monica Bellucci Return as ‘Bond Girl’ Along With Daniel Craig?
    http://variety.com/2017/film/news/will-monica-bellucci-return-bond-girl-bond-25-1202609803/

    On Tuesday evening in Rome, where she was feted with the Virna Lisi lifetime achievement award, Bellucci smiled at reporters who asked her to comment on the rumors, telling them: “I can’t say anything.”
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  • The Domino EffectThe Domino Effect Posts: 3,638MI6 Agent
    Red_Snow wrote:
    Will Monica Bellucci Return as ‘Bond Girl’ Along With Daniel Craig?
    http://variety.com/2017/film/news/will-monica-bellucci-return-bond-girl-bond-25-1202609803/

    On Tuesday evening in Rome, where she was feted with the Virna Lisi lifetime achievement award, Bellucci smiled at reporters who asked her to comment on the rumors, telling them: “I can’t say anything.”

    I'd be happy :D Although I really want Bond to move completely forward in B25 and stop looking back.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Red_Snow wrote:
    Will Monica Bellucci Return as ‘Bond Girl’ Along With Daniel Craig?
    http://variety.com/2017/film/news/will-monica-bellucci-return-bond-girl-bond-25-1202609803/

    On Tuesday evening in Rome, where she was feted with the Virna Lisi lifetime achievement award, Bellucci smiled at reporters who asked her to comment on the rumors, telling them: “I can’t say anything.”

    I'd be happy :D Although I really want Bond to move completely forward in B25 and stop looking back.
    I feel the exact same way. Lets stop retreading the past and aim for something original and new.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Absolutely, the whole angst ridden bond has become a bit passe these days, everyone including dc and marvel are over doing that side of things.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    Bringing Bellucci back wouldn't necessarily be like dredging up the past again. She could just be someone who Bond has maintained a relationship with....friends with benefits if you will. Bellucci is just such a force of nature that any excuse to put her back up on the screen in a Bond film should be exploited. :D :x -{
  • Bmorelli11Bmorelli11 Posts: 197MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    Bringing Bellucci back wouldn't necessarily be like dredging up the past again. She could just be someone who Bond has maintained a relationship with....friends with benefits if you will. Bellucci is just such a force of nature that any excuse to put her back up on the screen in a Bond film should be exploited. :D :x -{

    I agree, like a modern day Silva Trench!
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  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    +1 - she gets my vote! ;% :x
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Disapointing to many, but we know he had many projects. He is interested in making a Bond movie, so hopefully he can make one in the future.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    edited November 2017
    Chriscoop wrote:
    Not surprising since he said Dune is the "project of his life". Even though he seemed really excited about the prospect of working with Craig and directing a Bond film, it expectedly wasn't enticing enough to put Dune on the backburner for.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Ah well. Another rumour ticked off!
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    How many are going to be disappointed when/if Mendes is announced. Just asking :v Nothing sinister.
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  • Agent Double-O DanielAgent Double-O Daniel Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    Based on CR, I would like to see Martin Campbell be in the running for the next one.
    Sorry but that last hand... Nearly killed me.
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    I hope neither Mendes or Campbell return, lets have someone else take a crack at it.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Think Campbell recently said he wouldnt be interested

    Hope not Mendes again :)
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  • Agent Double-O DanielAgent Double-O Daniel Posts: 159MI6 Agent
    That's a valid point, but CR is such a great film it would be interesting to see Campbell's take on Bond at this point of Bond's life.
    I hope neither Mendes or Campbell return, lets have someone else take a crack at it.
    Sorry but that last hand... Nearly killed me.
  • Double0zeroDouble0zero Los AngelesPosts: 220MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Think Campbell recently said he wouldnt be interested

    Hope not Mendes again :)

    Campbell can’t because is already shooting a film with Pierce Brosnan next year in Venice. Confirmed by Pierce himself on his insta page.

    Also, Campbell said he would only come back if they want him to restart the franchise as he did with Daniel and Pierce. So more likely we would see him in the fowllow up movie when they cast a new Bond.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Yeah the reboot thing was what I had read
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    How many are going to be disappointed when/if Mendes is announced. Just asking :v Nothing sinister.
    I'd be disappointed, it wouldn't be the end of the world but I would lose some excitement in the run up to its release.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    edited November 2017
    I won't be disapointed, because we know Mendes was behind some of the more unfortunate aspects of SPECTRE.
  • Charmed & DangerousCharmed & Dangerous Posts: 7,358MI6 Agent
    Oh well, if Mendes does come back, i can always save cash as I won’t need to buy the Thomas Newmann soundtrack a third time... :#
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,860Chief of Staff
    :)) :)) :)) Bring back David Arnold!
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    Nearly spit my coffee out with laughter.....truth=funny
    Oh well, if Mendes does come back, i can always save cash as I won’t need to buy the Thomas Newmann soundtrack a third time... :#
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,586MI6 Agent
    Bmorelli11 wrote:
    HowardB wrote:
    Bringing Bellucci back wouldn't necessarily be like dredging up the past again. She could just be someone who Bond has maintained a relationship with....friends with benefits if you will. Bellucci is just such a force of nature that any excuse to put her back up on the screen in a Bond film should be exploited. :D :x -{

    I agree, like a modern day Silva Trench!

    But, then you have the problem that she is in it for five minutes, which was the criticism of Spectre. Her character, Lucia Sciarra, was this estranged wife of a Spectre assassin, I can't see that character justifiably coming back unless it's another Spectre based plot and a lot of people on this forum don't seem to want that. But, $880 million has probably convinced the studio otherwise. I think it's too soon to talk about a Maud Adams situation with her returning as a different character. Three of DC's Bond films have been direct sequels, one admittedly, retcon'd into one, Skyfall, so I can't see his 5th film being anything other than a sequel to Spectre. $880 million...

    And the Belluci rumour originated from pure UK tabloids BS, so....
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