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  • LicencetochatLicencetochat Posts: 74MI6 Agent
    Golrush007 wrote:
    A new mini-featurette on Youtube narrated by Cary Fukunaga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4aSE4FhbG4

    Some interesting behind-the-scenes footage to look at here. Also, it's pleasing to note he specifically mentions the white dots and gunbarrel at the beginning of a Bond film being significant. Hopefully this bodes well that we may get a 'proper' gunbarrel this time. Hopefully sticking to tradition, and not giving us any reason to nitpick (as we have done for all the other Daniel Craig gunbarrels.)

    I get a little Bond vs Sandor vibes from the fight against primo. The rest looks very promising btw.
  • nobodynobody Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    Love the spent rounds being ejected from the side vents of the DB5...
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    Golrush007 wrote:
    A new mini-featurette on Youtube narrated by Cary Fukunaga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4aSE4FhbG4

    Some interesting behind-the-scenes footage to look at here. Also, it's pleasing to note he specifically mentions the white dots and gunbarrel at the beginning of a Bond film being significant. Hopefully this bodes well that we may get a 'proper' gunbarrel this time. Hopefully sticking to tradition, and not giving us any reason to nitpick (as we have done for all the other Daniel Craig gunbarrels.)

    Spectre has a proper gun barrel. It was also a terrible film, so while I understand and agree with you, it’s far from dispositive.
  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    Golrush007 wrote:
    A new mini-featurette on Youtube narrated by Cary Fukunaga: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4aSE4FhbG4

    Some interesting behind-the-scenes footage to look at here. Also, it's pleasing to note he specifically mentions the white dots and gunbarrel at the beginning of a Bond film being significant. Hopefully this bodes well that we may get a 'proper' gunbarrel this time. Hopefully sticking to tradition, and not giving us any reason to nitpick (as we have done for all the other Daniel Craig gunbarrels.)

    Spectre has a proper gun barrel. It was also a terrible film, so while I understand and agree with you, it’s far from dispositive.

    Hey....cut a brother from the AJB a break. The man likes a proper gun barrel :)) :)
    Ironically, IMO Craig's two best Bonds, CR and Skyfall did not have a "proper" gun barrel opening.
    I will say, I also liked the shell casings being ejected from the DB5...nice little detail :)
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,421Quartermasters
    Spectre has a proper gun barrel.

    Not quite proper... ;)
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Golrush007 wrote:
    Spectre has a proper gun barrel.

    Not quite proper... ;)

    I'd say proper but very poorly done. Terribly scored and an abrupt ending. But because of the gunbarrel, Spectre is the only of Craig's Bond films that I was excited from at the start of the film. It did a lot for my enjoyment of the entire film.
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  • The Red KindThe Red Kind EnglandPosts: 3,336MI6 Agent
    I will say, I also liked the shell casings being ejected from the DB5...nice little detail :)

    Agree. Great touch that.
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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    Matt S wrote:
    Golrush007 wrote:
    Spectre has a proper gun barrel.

    Not quite proper... ;)

    I'd say proper but very poorly done. Terribly scored and an abrupt ending. But because of the gunbarrel, Spectre is the only of Craig's Bond films that I was excited from at the start of the film. It did a lot for my enjoyment of the entire film.

    Not the best executed gun barrel for sure. To me the gun barrel is like the official seal that you will be getting a certified James Bond film....and of course like most of us Bond fans, it gets the pulse up and sets the mood.

    I always got the feeling that Mendes was not a gun barrel guy. He omitted if from the beginning of Skyfall because he thought it clashed with the opening scene in the PTS (IMO, I disagree and with a bit of imagination it could have worked fine) and in SPECTRE as previously opined, it wasn't particularly well done and "rushed" at best....but much better than no gun barrel at all and still managed to set the mood. CR of course didn't have the traditional gunbarrel but relative to what they were trying to accomplish with the reboot, IMO opinion it was done well.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    HowardB wrote:
    Matt S wrote:
    Golrush007 wrote:

    Not quite proper... ;)

    I'd say proper but very poorly done. Terribly scored and an abrupt ending. But because of the gunbarrel, Spectre is the only of Craig's Bond films that I was excited from at the start of the film. It did a lot for my enjoyment of the entire film.

    Not the best executed gun barrel for sure. To me the gun barrel is like the official seal that you will be getting a certified James Bond film....and of course like most of us Bond fans, it gets the pulse up and sets the mood.

    I always got the feeling that Mendes was not a gun barrel guy. He omitted if from the beginning of Skyfall because he thought it clashed with the opening scene in the PTS (IMO, I disagree and with a bit of imagination it could have worked fine) and in SPECTRE as previously opined, it wasn't particularly well done and "rushed" at best....but much better than no gun barrel at all and still managed to set the mood. CR of course didn't have the traditional gunbarrel but relative to what they were trying to accomplish with the reboot, IMO opinion it was done well.

    His idea about why the gunbarrel didn't work in SF was an insult to the gunbarrel. To think his opening short is better than a gunbarrel is nothing short of an insult to Bond fans. His opening shot is cool, but it isn't better than a gunbarrel. If you can only have one or the other, a gunbarrel is the way to go.

    Any why it wasn't in QOS is a complete mystery. It would have worked perfectly with that opening shot.
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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    In my opinion the gun barrel should’ve opened every one of Craig’s films, including Casino Royale. There was absolutely no good reason to omit it. Hopefully it has now returned to its prior untouchable status. I’m glad Fukunaga likes it, but the director shouldn’t have any say.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    In my opinion the gun barrel should’ve opened every one of Craig’s films, including Casino Royale. There was absolutely no good reason to omit it. Hopefully it has now returned to its prior untouchable status. I’m glad Fukunaga likes it, but the director shouldn’t have any say.

    I agree. But I'm amongst the few who don't like how they handled it in Casino Royale.
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,587MI6 Agent
    In my opinion the gun barrel should’ve opened every one of Craig’s films, including Casino Royale. There was absolutely no good reason to omit it. Hopefully it has now returned to its prior untouchable status. I’m glad Fukunaga likes it, but the director shouldn’t have any say.

    We need special versions with gun barrels and David Arnold scores where there isn't one!! Vive le revolution!!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,866Chief of Staff
    Someone wrote:
    We need special versions with gun barrels and David Arnold scores where there isn't one!! Vive le revolution!!

    Moi aussi.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,334MI6 Agent
    Tres bien, mon ami.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,587MI6 Agent
    It's official, NTTD is the longest Bond film of all time.
    https://www.regmovies.com/movies/no-time-to-die/ho00009902#/

    Cinemas are now showing the run time of 164 minutes or 2h 43mins for NTTD.
    https://twitter.com/antovolk/status/1232587477979934721?s=20

    With a lot of Googling i just found this French cinema showing 2h 43mins.
    https://www.cinemanivel.fr/detail-9516-mourir-peut-attendre.html
  • Golrush007Golrush007 South AfricaPosts: 3,421Quartermasters
    I went onto the website of our main cinema chain in South Africa this morning and noticed that they were also showing 2h43 as the running time (updated from when I checked last week and the running time was listed as 0h1m.) :))

    I've always been a bit grumpy every time a modern blockbuster goes far over the 2 hour mark, so I'm just hoping that NTTD won't feel egregiously long. I was also pleased to see that the first screening here in Cape Town is on the 2nd April. I've had a hard time over the last few films having to wait an extra 4-6 weeks to see the new Bond film in South Africa, so I am very relieved that the film is coming out here concurrently with its UK release. I won't have to avoid AJB for the first month of the film's release this time round! :)
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    I’m very happy that we’ve got a long Bond movie, but from what we’ve seen so far, I don’t know how they’re going to fill that long runtime—it just doesn’t seem like nearly three hours worth of story.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    I don't mind some films being long but I don't think it really suits Bonds.
  • Quentin QuigleyQuentin Quigley Terminal One, Hamburg AirportPosts: 1,201MI6 Agent
    Let's hope there'll be plenty of slo-mo shots of Ana to help flesh out the run time.
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  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,587MI6 Agent
    AMC Theatres now showing 2h 43min.
    https://www.amctheatres.com/movies/no-time-to-die-57296
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    I’m very happy that we’ve got a long Bond movie, but from what we’ve seen so far, I don’t know how they’re going to fill that long runtime—it just doesn’t seem like nearly three hours worth of story.

    Unless you’re read the script, none of us know how much story they have to fill the time.
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  • HardyboyHardyboy Posts: 5,906Chief of Staff
    Cripes, my 53-year-old bladder can only take so much. . .
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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    emtiem wrote:
    I don't mind some films being long but I don't think it really suits Bonds.

    Agreed. It’s much harder to make a concise film than it is to make a long, bloated one.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Posts: 296MI6 Agent
    https://twitter.com/JamesBondAUS/status/1232700717665669120

    Hoyts Aus and NZ list the run time as 163 mins.
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  • RteublerRteubler Posts: 11MI6 Agent
    How about an intermission? I remember in the olden days when a long film would have an intermission half way through. Even Jaws, running time 124 minutes, had an intermission. Problem solved? Problem eliminated.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,587MI6 Agent
    Pathe chain in the Netherlands has also published 163min aka 2h 43min.
    https://www.pathe.nl/film/24292/no-time-to-die

    The trade press is wading in on the topic too. Hopefully we'll get semi-official confirmation from Variety or The Hollywood Reporter soon.
    https://collider.com/no-time-to-die-runtime/
    https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/no-time-to-die-runtime-james-bond/
    https://screenrant.com/no-time-die-james-bond-movie-runtime-longest/
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,866Chief of Staff
    Rteubler wrote:
    Problem solved? Problem eliminated.

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  • HowardBHowardB USAPosts: 2,755MI6 Agent
    163 minutes.....that's two trips to the Men's Room for my old arse. Thankfully the IMAX I go to is right next to the bathroom and has those wide isles so it's easy to get out and back in without disturbing other folks. The padded recliners will also be a godsend.
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,587MI6 Agent
    edited February 2020
    So far it seems only German cinemas are selling tickets.
    https://twitter.com/antovolk/status/1232813749305737217?s=20

    I also found the Cinedom chain in Germany is selling tickets. I checked the Regal chain and Fandango and UK cinema chains, Odeon, Vue etc and none of them are selling.

    A UK firm, Digital Cinema Media, is marketing for NTTD screening advertising.
    https://www.dcm.co.uk/news/booking-opens-for-the-biggest-av-opportunity-of-2020-on-007-october
    It says: "We’re forecasting almost 11m industry admissions for No Time To Die,". Anyone have any idea what 11m admissions is worth financially in the UK? According to the Odeon website you can book to see 1917 for a ticket price of £5.75. That would be a UK gross of GBP£63.25 million.

    SPECTRE took USD$63m in the UK (and Ireland) in its first week, according to Deadline. The GBP/USD average exchange rate in 2015 was $1.52 to the pound. So, $63m equates to £41.4m.
    https://deadline.com/2015/11/spectre-box-office-record-opening-uk-1201601884/

    The SPECTRE result reflects a rule of thumb of cinema, as I understand it, that movies take 50% of their gross in the first weekend/week.

    Fortunately BoxOffice Mojo's SPECTRE data is still available and it had USD$63m for the opening and a UK total of USD$124.5m.
    https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2496759297/weekend/
    So SPECTRE did follow that rule of thumb in the UK with USD$63m/GBP£41.1m from 30 Oct to 5 November.

    So it looks like the marketing industry expects NTTD to smash all previous records with a 50% hike in UK ticket sales. But, this year the GDP/USD exchange rate is only $1.30, I guess due to Brexit. So, £63m will be USD$81.9m, only a 30% increase in USD revenue.
  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,948MI6 Agent
    They’ve got to be nervous about Covid-19 affecting attendance, you’d think.
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