Waller-Bridge is very adept at creating some really "twisted" characters which is something that works well in a Bond film IMO.....and isn't that one of the things that made Fleming's villains (and other characters so memorable)?
Haha, funny enough I watched the film where those clips come from (Carry on Loving) for the first time last weekend. I didn't like it very much, so glad to see they've now found a good use for that footage.
I was actually introduced to the "Carry On" films at a young age. My Dad, who served in the US Army/Air Corps during WWII was stationed in England for a period of time at an RAF airbase as he was lent out to the RAF to teach their pilots how to use the new instrument flight technology for night flying. Anyway, long story short, my Dad developed an affinity for British humor (and sausages) and would watch any British films (especially comedies) that would pop up on TV and encourage me to also watch. Personally, it's been quite a long time since I've seen a "Carry On" film, but I did get a kick out of the trailer.
Fukunaga said the film was locked down quite a while after the crew was called in for reshoots. But even then his statement flies in the face of information given to me by a handful of crew members who were still working right up to lockdown in the UK on both Bond and Batman. They also said that I would hate this film, so that’s great 8-)
What level are these crew members ? There would be very few that would work on a Bond production that would also work on a Warner brothers film.
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Fukunaga said the film was locked down quite a while after the crew was called in for reshoots. But even then his statement flies in the face of information given to me by a handful of crew members who were still working right up to lockdown in the UK on both Bond and Batman. They also said that I would hate this film, so that’s great 8-)
What level are these crew members ? There would be very few that would work on a Bond production that would also work on a Warner brothers film.
You couldn’t be more wrong there. Armourers, prop makers, costume, miniatures, Assistant directors, stunts, visuals, artists, make up, prosthetics.... the list goes on. They aren’t beholden to one studio, far from it. Many were working on 1917 that was delayed during production due to set flooding, which led to them not being around for NTTD, which they were also contracted for. The same people were also working on The King’s Man and Black Widow.
As a case in point. The people that made the weapons for Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Tumbler, also made key props for Skyfall and SPECTRE. Some worked on 1989’s Batman and LTK at the same time too. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg as they all worked on most of the Marvel films. So far from being very few that would work on them, you’ll find it’s most of them. The top people in the business are few and far between in the UK, so when it comes to major productions in film and TV, it’s a very very small world. It’s all freelance. Studios don’t hold specialists on sight, that would be too restrictive and too expensive.
Fukunaga said the film was locked down quite a while after the crew was called in for reshoots. But even then his statement flies in the face of information given to me by a handful of crew members who were still working right up to lockdown in the UK on both Bond and Batman. They also said that I would hate this film, so that’s great 8-)
What level are these crew members ? There would be very few that would work on a Bond production that would also work on a Warner brothers film.
You couldn’t be more wrong there. Armourers, prop makers, costume, miniatures, Assistant directors, stunts, visuals, artists, make up, prosthetics.... the list goes on. They aren’t beholden to one studio, far from it. Many were working on 1917 that was delayed during production due to set flooding, which led to them not being around for NTTD, which they were also contracted for. The same people were also working on The King’s Man and Black Widow.
As a case in point. The people that made the weapons for Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Tumbler, also made key props for Skyfall and SPECTRE. Some worked on 1989’s Batman and LTK at the same time too. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg as they all worked on most of the Marvel films. So far from being very few that would work on them, you’ll find it’s most of them. The top people in the business are few and far between in the UK, so when it comes to major productions in film and TV, it’s a very very small world. It’s all freelance. Studios don’t hold specialists on sight, that would be too restrictive and too expensive.
That’s why I asked at what level. Im involved at construction level , and so far haven’t seen anyone at Leavesden who have worked at Pinewood ( on the two films you originally quoted anyway ). Not that I know everyone of course
...They clearly have no idea how to create an interesting narrative, so they keep going back to the “personal” angle, which has been the centerpiece of every Bond film since TWINE. Twenty years! Actually, take out TND and it goes back thirty years to LTK! ...
Tomorrow Never Dies is "personal" too: M specifically assigns Bond to seduce Paris, knowing she had a history with Bond, and he knows that to do so will probably cost Paris her life.
It's just that five minutes after she's killed, he's discovered how fun is the remote control of the BMW, so we all forget the personal angle for the rest of the film. I don't think her name is mentioned again.
Bond really should have said something like "for Paris" when he killed Carver at the end, like in LTK. It's only cuz the script is so poor we miss that this this too is a "personal" story.
I think folks forget how the films often get quite personal. For example, right from the beginning TMWTGG is all about Bond and him having to protect himself rather than any threat against the nation. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with that.
With the movie release date changes being announced in the last 24h, incl apparently Bond coming forward a week, I wanted to put a positive spin on things.
With social distancing rules movie theatres are likely to reduce the numbers of people per screening and there are going to be fewer movies out, so if I was a multiplex manager I would put a typical blockbuster like Bond on every f***ing screen and run the film 24/7.
With so few movies out etc I could imagine that while the opening weekend gross is not going to be normal, a lot lower maybe, because it is basically the only film to go and see and with many frequent screenings I could imagine NTTD doing MASSIVE numbers at the box office.
While people are worried about Bond being woke, there does seem to be a lot of scope for female centric marketing, another reason why the movie will go big at the strange new box office - attracting young women and encouraging WAGs to go.
Hey @TheBondExperience maybe with your daughter's help you could mash together a female centric trailer from bits of all the trailers and TV spots seen so far? I don't know, maybe rope in gender studies prof Dr Lisa Funnell from the James Bond & Friends podcast too?
I think a woke Bond is great if it's not rubbed in our faces. But I really don't want Bond's death, as it will kill people's future interest in Bond. It will tell the audience that Bond needs to die because he's no longer relevant. It just gives in to the haters.
From everything I've been reading about this film, no doubt it's going to be very personal. They can't say, 'this time there's more action than ever', but they can say that it's even more personal than before. But there's no way to continue on with another Craig Bond film and not make it more personal. That's why I wish Craig didn't return. They've painted into a corner with him.
I keep remembering my old topic about these personal missions that they continue to make.
The story was that they were filming multiple endings. So my guess is that they made:
1. Bond's death ending. Which I don't want to see.
2. Madeleine's death ending. Which I don't want to see because we've seen it before in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. And Daniel Craig's Bond is close to batting zero with saving women. Spectre was his first real success.
3. New Agent death ending. Which I'm not too fond of either as they seem to be making her a cool character. Already far better than Jinx who was terrible.
Craig's Bonds have take a lot from Nolan's Batman films, too. So, if that trilogy ends with a Batman might have died/might not ending, I wouldn't be surprised if Craig's Bonds move to make it seem he is dead, too.
Craig's Bonds have take a lot from Nolan's Batman films, too. So, if that trilogy ends with a Batman might have died/might not ending, I wouldn't be surprised if Craig's Bonds move to make it seem he is dead, too.
An ending like that would certainly stir endless debate on the AJB.....for years to come
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Haha, funny enough I watched the film where those clips come from (Carry on Loving) for the first time last weekend. I didn't like it very much, so glad to see they've now found a good use for that footage.
What level are these crew members ? There would be very few that would work on a Bond production that would also work on a Warner brothers film.
You couldn’t be more wrong there. Armourers, prop makers, costume, miniatures, Assistant directors, stunts, visuals, artists, make up, prosthetics.... the list goes on. They aren’t beholden to one studio, far from it. Many were working on 1917 that was delayed during production due to set flooding, which led to them not being around for NTTD, which they were also contracted for. The same people were also working on The King’s Man and Black Widow.
As a case in point. The people that made the weapons for Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy and the Tumbler, also made key props for Skyfall and SPECTRE. Some worked on 1989’s Batman and LTK at the same time too. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg as they all worked on most of the Marvel films. So far from being very few that would work on them, you’ll find it’s most of them. The top people in the business are few and far between in the UK, so when it comes to major productions in film and TV, it’s a very very small world. It’s all freelance. Studios don’t hold specialists on sight, that would be too restrictive and too expensive.
That’s why I asked at what level. Im involved at construction level , and so far haven’t seen anyone at Leavesden who have worked at Pinewood ( on the two films you originally quoted anyway ). Not that I know everyone of course
It's just that five minutes after she's killed, he's discovered how fun is the remote control of the BMW, so we all forget the personal angle for the rest of the film. I don't think her name is mentioned again.
Bond really should have said something like "for Paris" when he killed Carver at the end, like in LTK. It's only cuz the script is so poor we miss that this this too is a "personal" story.
With social distancing rules movie theatres are likely to reduce the numbers of people per screening and there are going to be fewer movies out, so if I was a multiplex manager I would put a typical blockbuster like Bond on every f***ing screen and run the film 24/7.
With so few movies out etc I could imagine that while the opening weekend gross is not going to be normal, a lot lower maybe, because it is basically the only film to go and see and with many frequent screenings I could imagine NTTD doing MASSIVE numbers at the box office.
While people are worried about Bond being woke, there does seem to be a lot of scope for female centric marketing, another reason why the movie will go big at the strange new box office - attracting young women and encouraging WAGs to go.
Hey @TheBondExperience maybe with your daughter's help you could mash together a female centric trailer from bits of all the trailers and TV spots seen so far? I don't know, maybe rope in gender studies prof Dr Lisa Funnell from the James Bond & Friends podcast too?
They couldn’t get a more up to date picture of Craig/Bond for their cover? That’s Omega’s “look at our watch on Bond” shot for Spectre.
Lego NTTD Trailer
These are the things that make waiting a little more bearable
these posters are pretty cool, I like the vintage style
he's doing more, Brosnan-Era at this time:
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An ending like that would certainly stir endless debate on the AJB.....for years to come