i find this thread fairly depressing. It seems everything is about the action scenes and not much emphasis on the story. I guess the Bond films are just going with the flow. Where once they were cutting edge movies with sensible action sequences that fit - it now seems that someone finds some explosives and then builds a scene around it that doesn't really follow any story line logic. I think that I feel ripped off or counting the minutes left in a movie at least 50% of the time. This compares to the rare time you felt that oh 20 years ago. Maybe it is time to just give up hope on this and say the majority rules with their 10 minutes of attention spans. BTW I have never been able to get through any of the MI movies and found UNCLE to also be an excercise of stamina to stay with it. Can't a decent script be adapted from a already written story? Just a lowly fan's opinion.
I think Bond is no longer the leader of action films because there's just so many nowadays compared to back then. It's really hard to stand out and that's why Cruise's daredevil stunts are so highly regarded because they're thrilling, memorable and will be talked about for years to come. The bungee jump from Goldeneye is the stunt that's most often remembered when discussing modern Bond films, and that was over 20 years ago.
I'd say that the parkour scene from CR replaced the GE bungee jump in terms of being the scene that's most remembered when discussing modern Bond films. Everyone I know points that out as being the definitive Bond scene of the Craig run of films.
I mentioned that earlier as the most remembered action from the Craig era i was just thinking of an individual stunt opposed to an entire scene.
If Tom and the MI crew have adopted the big stunt from the Roger Moore era. It can
Only be a short time before Tom is seen in a safari suit. Also odd that for an
Action star, Tom doesn't get any where near as much grief as poor old Daniel for not
Being six foot two )
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
If Tom and the MI crew have adopted the big stunt from the Roger Moore era. It can
Only be a short time before Tom is seen in a safari suit. Also odd that for an
Action star, Tom doesn't get any where near as much grief as poor old Daniel for not
Being six foot two )
Yes is remarkable, last week dc is photographed shoulder to shoulder with international rugby union players some of which were shorter than him! I will enjoy Bond 25 irrelevant of how much I enjoy mi-6. Bond will return 2019 or should that be "bond bashing 2019"
Not since the 1960s have the Bond films really had great dialogue. But that's the case in general for this sort of film. The 1980s were the start of the cheesy and simplistic dialogue era. There's an occasional line or two here and there, but for the most part, it's banal and predictable.
But CR had a few moments. The armor dialogue IS terrible, as is much of the train dialogue (if you want to see that done well, watch North by Northwest).
On the other hand, there are some nice moments.
In no particular order:
With Vesper in the car, when Bond says, "Single" in response to her not being his type.
The bit about only being in trouble when his eye starts weeping blood.
The bit when LeChiffre smiles and says Bond isn't going to tell him anything, to which Bond wryly acknowledges.
No, none of this is on the order of "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!" or "Unfortunately I misjudged you, you are just a stupid policeman . . . whose luck has run out", but it's better than most of the "Get him!" and "Give me back my daughter!" sorts of gibberish we usually get now.
(if you want to see that done well, watch North by Northwest).
{[] If anyone reading this hasn't seen this film (which gets a mention in the TB novel, btw) then please do! It's classic Hitchcock, and shows what he could have done with a Bond story starring Cary Grant.
" and they simply don’t do it as well as others."
A quote from a Miles Messervy stating how The Bond team doesn't do the big
action scenes as well as the Mission Impossible team .... or am I misquoting ?
Can that even be disputed? It’s just a fact. But I would invite you to read the rest of that post, where I state that the Bond films excel in the small-scale action sequences, like the train fight in Spectre that was mentioned by others, and that they should stick with that approach. I think that is a widely shared view among the members of this forum. It’s also a very minor critique of one aspect of the recent Bond films. It’s certainly not akin to suggesting that Bond is finished or some other nonsense.
Yes it's not either or. Whilst 'facts' are rare in a post-truth world, I share the view that MI does the big stuff better. For me the 'problem' arises when Eon try to piss in the same pool e.g. Spectre PTS. Also character and narrative distinguish Bond but when both are missing or below par what is left is 'meh' The point about comparing a film that has not been shot is well taken.however we have recent installments of both to go on...I hope that Bond focuses upon core strengths, smaller scale action with genuine tension.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Not since the 1960s have the Bond films really had great dialogue. But that's the case in general for this sort of film. The 1980s were the start of the cheesy and simplistic dialogue era. There's an occasional line or two here and there, but for the most part, it's banal and predictable.
But CR had a few moments. The armor dialogue IS terrible, as is much of the train dialogue (if you want to see that done well, watch North by Northwest).
On the other hand, there are some nice moments.
In no particular order:
With Vesper in the car, when Bond says, "Single" in response to her not being his type.
The bit about only being in trouble when his eye starts weeping blood.
The bit when LeChiffre smiles and says Bond isn't going to tell him anything, to which Bond wryly acknowledges.
No, none of this is on the order of "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!" or "Unfortunately I misjudged you, you are just a stupid policeman . . . whose luck has run out", but it's better than most of the "Get him!" and "Give me back my daughter!" sorts of gibberish we usually get now.
"I'm sorry. That last hand..... nearly killed me."
Definitely the funniest non-torture line in Casino Royale!
(if you want to see that done well, watch North by Northwest).
{[] If anyone reading this hasn't seen this film (which gets a mention in the TB novel, btw) then please do! It's classic Hitchcock, and shows what he could have done with a Bond story starring Cary Grant.
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Watch Notorious, too, which could well have been a Bond novel.
(if you want to see that done well, watch North by Northwest).
{[] If anyone reading this hasn't seen this film (which gets a mention in the TB novel, btw) then please do! It's classic Hitchcock, and shows what he could have done with a Bond story starring Cary Grant.
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Watch Notorious, too, which could well have been a Bond novel.
Apparently it was the second Mission Impossible movie!
When asked if he would be taking on next year's big budget film titled Bond 25, Nolan told BBC Radio 4's Desert Island Discs he "categorically" will not be directing.
He said: "I won't be the man (to direct the next Bond). No, categorically.
"I think every time they hire a new director I'm rumoured to be doing it. I'd love to make a Bond film at some point and I think those producers - Barbara and Michael [Broccoli and G Wilson] - they do a tremendous job and Sam Mendes has done a terrific job the last couple of films, so they don't particularly need me.
"But I've always been inspired by the films and would love to do one someday".
I think it would be a real loss if Nolan doesn't direct a Bond movie some day. But he's right, there are several directors who are able to make a fine Bond movie out there.
When asked if he would be taking on next year's big budget film titled Bond 25, Nolan told BBC Radio 4's Desert Island Discs he "categorically" will not be directing.
He said: "I won't be the man (to direct the next Bond). No, categorically.
"I think every time they hire a new director I'm rumoured to be doing it. I'd love to make a Bond film at some point and I think those producers - Barbara and Michael [Broccoli and G Wilson] - they do a tremendous job and Sam Mendes has done a terrific job the last couple of films, so they don't particularly need me.
"But I've always been inspired by the films and would love to do one someday".
That's unfortunate but no doubt his time will come. Probably the next Bond film with a new actor so he has a clean slate so to speak.
Nolan won't direct, neither will Denise Villeneuve. I'm not sure, but I don't think Mendes will return.
I would like to see a new, edgier British director to do Bond 25.
There are many: Steve Mcqueen (12 Years a Slave), David Mackenzie (Hell or high water), Ben Wheatley. (Free Fire), Yann Demage ('71), Duncan Jones (Moon), Joe Wright (Hannah), Edgar Wr. ght (Baby Driver).
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Only be a short time before Tom is seen in a safari suit.
Action star, Tom doesn't get any where near as much grief as poor old Daniel for not
Being six foot two
But CR had a few moments. The armor dialogue IS terrible, as is much of the train dialogue (if you want to see that done well, watch North by Northwest).
On the other hand, there are some nice moments.
In no particular order:
With Vesper in the car, when Bond says, "Single" in response to her not being his type.
The bit about only being in trouble when his eye starts weeping blood.
The bit when LeChiffre smiles and says Bond isn't going to tell him anything, to which Bond wryly acknowledges.
No, none of this is on the order of "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die!" or "Unfortunately I misjudged you, you are just a stupid policeman . . . whose luck has run out", but it's better than most of the "Get him!" and "Give me back my daughter!" sorts of gibberish we usually get now.
{[] If anyone reading this hasn't seen this film (which gets a mention in the TB novel, btw) then please do! It's classic Hitchcock, and shows what he could have done with a Bond story starring Cary Grant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJKrWjBm91Y
Just a bit of fun......
Although, I'm sure many ( as today ) will post
About the obvious inferiority of the Bond
Action sequences in that video
Heard of YouTube. {:)
( Barbel. I assumed your comment was just a bit of banter ... nothing to be sorry about -{ )
Didn't realise it was a fight. Did I miss something? Looks like violent agreement to me. :007)
" well I'm taking my sandwich out of this
Picnic basket " may have been better.
So I'll take my sandwich and sit over with the
Cool kids
It was, but I thought better of it later. Cheers! {[]
"I'm sorry. That last hand..... nearly killed me."
Definitely the funniest non-torture line in Casino Royale!
Watch Notorious, too, which could well have been a Bond novel.
Apparently it was the second Mission Impossible movie!
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/hollywood-director-christopher-nolan-finally-12045330.amp
When asked if he would be taking on next year's big budget film titled Bond 25, Nolan told BBC Radio 4's Desert Island Discs he "categorically" will not be directing.
He said: "I won't be the man (to direct the next Bond). No, categorically.
"I think every time they hire a new director I'm rumoured to be doing it. I'd love to make a Bond film at some point and I think those producers - Barbara and Michael [Broccoli and G Wilson] - they do a tremendous job and Sam Mendes has done a terrific job the last couple of films, so they don't particularly need me.
"But I've always been inspired by the films and would love to do one someday".
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I would like to see a new, edgier British director to do Bond 25.
There are many: Steve Mcqueen (12 Years a Slave), David Mackenzie (Hell or high water), Ben Wheatley. (Free Fire), Yann Demage ('71), Duncan Jones (Moon), Joe Wright (Hannah), Edgar Wr. ght (Baby Driver).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT188R3XbRc
Twitter: @mybudgetbond1
https://www.joe.co.uk/entertainment/everyone-noticed-the-same-thing-about-daniel-craigs-face-at-the-baftas-last-night-163721
They are suggesting he's had some work done to his face.
He looks ghastly.