I’m fairly confident that Bond 25 will be better than Spectre, as the latter is my least favorite film in the series apart from DAD. That said, I’m not expecting a classic. I like the director, but Craig is well-past his prime, in a way that Roger and Pierce were not at a similar age, and I think that will end up holding the film back.
Craig past him prime....yes. Too many years lost while MGM suffered financial problems and EON took "breaks".
That being said, it's hard to compare Craig with Moore and Brosnan as both started as Bond in their 40's (Moore 46) and
their Bonds (especially Moore's) were a bit of a different animal IMO with different expectations. I do think it may be more likely than not, a "past his prime" Craig can rise to the occasion in Bond 25 if the script is good and he is motivated. We are in an era when older
action heros are more accepted. With the right make-up, lighting, wardrobe and script provided by EON, the rest is up to Craig.
I’m fairly confident that Bond 25 will be better than Spectre, as the latter is my least favorite film in the series apart from DAD. That said, I’m not expecting a classic. I like the director, but Craig is well-past his prime, in a way that Roger and Pierce were not at a similar age, and I think that will end up holding the film back.
Craig past him prime....yes. Too many years lost while MGM suffered financial problems and EON took "breaks".
That being said, it's hard to compare Craig with Moore and Brosnan as both started as Bond in their 40's (Moore 46) and
their Bonds (especially Moore's) were a bit of a different animal IMO with different expectations. I do think it may be more likely than not, a "past his prime" Craig can rise to the occasion in Bond 25 if the script is good and he is motivated. We are in an era when older
action heros are more accepted. With the right make-up, lighting, wardrobe and script provided by EON, the rest is up to Craig.
Unlike Brosnan and Moore, Craig’s portrayal has always been more physical. I think he was starting to lose that edge in Spectre and I wonder four years on what’s left. That said, I agree with you that he could pull it off if all other elements are right. But the margin for error is now diminished.
I’m fairly confident that Bond 25 will be better than Spectre, as the latter is my least favorite film in the series apart from DAD. That said, I’m not expecting a classic. I like the director, but Craig is well-past his prime, in a way that Roger and Pierce were not at a similar age, and I think that will end up holding the film back.
Craig past him prime....yes. Too many years lost while MGM suffered financial problems and EON took "breaks".
That being said, it's hard to compare Craig with Moore and Brosnan as both started as Bond in their 40's (Moore 46) and
their Bonds (especially Moore's) were a bit of a different animal IMO with different expectations. I do think it may be more likely than not, a "past his prime" Craig can rise to the occasion in Bond 25 if the script is good and he is motivated. We are in an era when older
action heros are more accepted. With the right make-up, lighting, wardrobe and script provided by EON, the rest is up to Craig.
Unlike Brosnan and Moore, Craig’s portrayal has always been more physical. I think he was starting to lose that edge in Spectre and I wonder four years on what’s left. That said, I agree with you that he could pull it off if all other elements are right. But the margin for error is now diminished.
I agree, Craig is in tremendous shape for his age and no doubt will be for B25 but his portrayal of Bond in Spectre with the added emphasis on humor often felt like a more neutered version of the Bond we saw in the previous films. I hope they go back to what made his portrayal so successful in the first place. And not try to adhere to established character tropes that dont necessarily fit with his version of Bond.
I think that he will be in tip-top shape, but obviously not 36 year old shape. This could be a good thing. Craig's Bond has indeed been particularly physical, but I hope that if he has lost some of that he could compensate by using his noodle more and 'Boxing clever (Connery was brilliant in this regard) I still hope and expect that physicality will still be a strong feature but perhaps a little different. I'd like DC to broaden his range in what must surely be his last outing.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Connery was only 41 in DAF and looked much, much older but still was able to manage a classic Bond slugfest in that elevator.
I am sure Craig could do the same. They just need keep things down to earth and not have Craig do any silly superhero-like stuff, use his smarts more, a bit of spy craft and let him shoot more bad guys....at 50 he can still pull a trigger convincingly. They can also play off his age a bit in the script when it comes to action......make him "feel it" as they say. Craig has never had classic "movie star" looks anyway. Like Charles Bronson, as long as he appears fit and formidable it will be fine.
Connery was only 41 in DAF and looked much, much older but still was able to manage a classic Bond slugfest in that elevator.
I am sure Craig could do the same. They just need keep things down to earth and not have Craig do any silly superhero-like stuff, use his smarts more, a bit of spy craft and let him shoot more bad guys....at 50 he can still pull a trigger convincingly.
Connery also scaled the Whyte House, and climbed underneath the oil rig in spite of his extra bulk when compared his appearance in DR NO.
I'm sure Bond will still do Bondisn things regardless of Craig's age, or build in the new film.I don't think it will matter as long as Craig maintains a Bondian image.
I wouldn't want McQuire to direct Bond because James Bond should be duffernt from MI. But it's pretty probable you ment the style he talks about. I can agree on that. I would like the next Bond to have a a lighter tone. No more traumatic background, more enjoyment of life. And standalone movies based on missions. Not that I want them to go full Roger Moore, keep the best from Craig too :007)
I wouldn't want McQuire to direct Bond because James Bond should be duffernt from MI. But it's pretty probable you ment the style he talks about. I can agree on that. I would like the next Bond to have a a lighter tone. No more traumatic background, more enjoyment of life. And standalone movies based on missions. Not that I want them to go full Roger Moore, keep the best from Craig too :007)
Sounds like a plan to me.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
I’m fairly confident that Bond 25 will be better than Spectre, as the latter is my least favorite film in the series apart from DAD. That said, I’m not expecting a classic. I like the director, but Craig is well-past his prime, in a way that Roger and Pierce were not at a similar age, and I think that will end up holding the film back.
Craig past him prime....yes. Too many years lost while MGM suffered financial problems and EON took "breaks".
That being said, it's hard to compare Craig with Moore and Brosnan as both started as Bond in their 40's (Moore 46) and
their Bonds (especially Moore's) were a bit of a different animal IMO with different expectations. I do think it may be more likely than not, a "past his prime" Craig can rise to the occasion in Bond 25 if the script is good and he is motivated. We are in an era when older
action heros are more accepted. With the right make-up, lighting, wardrobe and script provided by EON, the rest is up to Craig.
Daniel updated his online media a few days ago with a new 2018 photo. This is completely untouched/not photoshopped to make him look younger.
I think he looks great. Has hardly aged since Casino Royale!
Can't quite believe that I'm this but I'm of the opinion that at least until we know more being unnecessarily negative at this stage is not helpful. I hope it's his last, but I also want it to be his best.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Cue the “Daniel is looking Bond ready!” comments. Meanwhile, I’m sitting here legitimately wondering how this man is going to play Bond three months from now. He looks bad.
Cue the “Daniel is looking Bond ready!” comments. Meanwhile, I’m sitting here legitimately wondering how this man is going to play Bond three months from now. He looks bad.
I agree. If this is how he will look as Bond, people will forget about DAF and AVTAK!
There is definitely a pattern here of people freaking out over how Craig looks between Bond films and one must admit Craig also has a pattern of not looking great in many photos taken between Bond films. Funny thing is, he looked quite good back in Bond garb in the pictures captured on the set in Spain when he was doing what appeared to most likely a new Heineken commercial. May be EON has some sort of hyperbolic Bond chamber they put him in and he comes out as James Bond.
There is definitely a pattern here of people freaking out over how Craig looks between Bond films and one must admit Craig also has a pattern of not looking great in many photos taken between Bond films. Funny thing is, he looked quite good back in Bond garb in the pictures captured on the set in Spain when he was doing what appeared to most likely a new Heineken commercial. May be EON has some sort of hyperbolic Bond chamber they put him in and he comes out as James Bond.
I can’t tell anything from the couple of side shots that surfaced earlier this year from Spain. But he didn’t look that great in the Omega ad, which had the benefit of photoshop. And when filming starts for Bond 25, Craig will be yet another year older still. All signs continue to point to EON continuing a long tradition of sticking with their man for one film too many. But I hope Craig proves me wrong.
There is definitely a pattern here of people freaking out over how Craig looks between Bond films and one must admit Craig also has a pattern of not looking great in many photos taken between Bond films. Funny thing is, he looked quite good back in Bond garb in the pictures captured on the set in Spain when he was doing what appeared to most likely a new Heineken commercial. May be EON has some sort of hyperbolic Bond chamber they put him in and he comes out as James Bond.
He looked awful for his age in Skyfall. He looked great for 54, but he was 44 and should have looked 44. I don’t have much faith in him looking like a good 51 in Bond 25 because he’s already past that.
Cue the “Daniel is looking Bond ready!” comments. Meanwhile, I’m sitting here legitimately wondering how this man is going to play Bond three months from now. He looks bad.
I agree. If this is how he will look as Bond, people will forget about DAF and AVTAK!
When you think about it, DAF is just lackluster all around. As close as Bond ever came to malaise. But I always thought AVTAK is a pretty good film that is spoiled by the fact that Moore is obviously past it. I wonder if this film will suffer a similar fate?
There is definitely a pattern here of people freaking out over how Craig looks between Bond films and one must admit Craig also has a pattern of not looking great in many photos taken between Bond films. Funny thing is, he looked quite good back in Bond garb in the pictures captured on the set in Spain when he was doing what appeared to most likely a new Heineken commercial. May be EON has some sort of hyperbolic Bond chamber they put him in and he comes out as James Bond.
He looked awful for his age in Skyfall. He looked great for 54, but he was 44 and should have looked 44. I don’t have much faith in him looking like a good 51 in Bond 25 because he’s already past that.
There is definitely a pattern here of people freaking out over how Craig looks between Bond films and one must admit Craig also has a pattern of not looking great in many photos taken between Bond films. Funny thing is, he looked quite good back in Bond garb in the pictures captured on the set in Spain when he was doing what appeared to most likely a new Heineken commercial. May be EON has some sort of hyperbolic Bond chamber they put him in and he comes out as James Bond.
He looked awful for his age in Skyfall. He looked great for 54, but he was 44 and should have looked 44. I don’t have much faith in him looking like a good 51 in Bond 25 because he’s already past that.
couldn't agree more MattS! Have really tried to like Craig and his tenure but I just can't, won't even go and see Bond 25, his films have just got worse IMO , the only film I can say I honestly enjoyed with Craig in is Munich and like all his films Bond included he is outshined by everyone around him! IMO he is the one direction and little mix of the film world all hype and no substance! Again just my views and those that like him enjoy -{
Maybe we should change the title of this thread to "Knives Out". There is a history of Craig looking terrible in some photos and then looking fine in others. At the Baftas he looks bloated and downright odd....then at the Night of Opportunity Gala he looks fine (except for the bad Hitler Youth haircut). Hopefully, Craig will land on the fine side of things when Bond 25 begins filming in March.
I definitely part ways with Superdaddy on Craig.....but at least he is honest enough to just basically say he doesn't like him. Roger Moore was beloved by many as Bond, I couldn't wait until his tenure ended (and that was a long wait) because I really disliked the direction the films had taken with his version of Bond so I can understand people who don't care for Craig. But on a more objective level, if Craig looks like crap in Bond 25, then he looks like crap and that's not a good thing.
I’m a Craig fan. CR and QoS are top ten for me. I’m just calling it like I see it at present. As you mention Howard, the paradigm could shift between now and filming.
There is definitely a pattern here of people freaking out over how Craig looks between Bond films and one must admit Craig also has a pattern of not looking great in many photos taken between Bond films. Funny thing is, he looked quite good back in Bond garb in the pictures captured on the set in Spain when he was doing what appeared to most likely a new Heineken commercial. May be EON has some sort of hyperbolic Bond chamber they put him in and he comes out as James Bond.
I can’t tell anything from the couple of side shots that surfaced earlier this year from Spain. But he didn’t look that great in the Omega ad, which had the benefit of photoshop. And when filming starts for Bond 25, Craig will be yet another year older still. All signs continue to point to EON continuing a long tradition of sticking with their man for one film too many. But I hope Craig proves me wrong.
They also ditched one Bond one film too early. Even as a fully paid up 'Daltonista' I conced that had he got to make GE he may well have bloomed. If they had made the move one film earlier he may have got to make 3 (not everyone's favourite outcome I know) Timing and casting is a tricky business to be sure.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
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Craig past him prime....yes. Too many years lost while MGM suffered financial problems and EON took "breaks".
That being said, it's hard to compare Craig with Moore and Brosnan as both started as Bond in their 40's (Moore 46) and
their Bonds (especially Moore's) were a bit of a different animal IMO with different expectations. I do think it may be more likely than not, a "past his prime" Craig can rise to the occasion in Bond 25 if the script is good and he is motivated. We are in an era when older
action heros are more accepted. With the right make-up, lighting, wardrobe and script provided by EON, the rest is up to Craig.
Unlike Brosnan and Moore, Craig’s portrayal has always been more physical. I think he was starting to lose that edge in Spectre and I wonder four years on what’s left. That said, I agree with you that he could pull it off if all other elements are right. But the margin for error is now diminished.
I am sure Craig could do the same. They just need keep things down to earth and not have Craig do any silly superhero-like stuff, use his smarts more, a bit of spy craft and let him shoot more bad guys....at 50 he can still pull a trigger convincingly. They can also play off his age a bit in the script when it comes to action......make him "feel it" as they say. Craig has never had classic "movie star" looks anyway. Like Charles Bronson, as long as he appears fit and formidable it will be fine.
Connery also scaled the Whyte House, and climbed underneath the oil rig in spite of his extra bulk when compared his appearance in DR NO.
I'm sure Bond will still do Bondisn things regardless of Craig's age, or build in the new film.I don't think it will matter as long as Craig maintains a Bondian image.
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Sounds like a plan to me.
Daniel updated his online media a few days ago with a new 2018 photo. This is completely untouched/not photoshopped to make him look younger.
I think he looks great. Has hardly aged since Casino Royale!
Cue the “Daniel is looking Bond ready!” comments. Meanwhile, I’m sitting here legitimately wondering how this man is going to play Bond three months from now. He looks bad.
I agree. If this is how he will look as Bond, people will forget about DAF and AVTAK!
I can’t tell anything from the couple of side shots that surfaced earlier this year from Spain. But he didn’t look that great in the Omega ad, which had the benefit of photoshop. And when filming starts for Bond 25, Craig will be yet another year older still. All signs continue to point to EON continuing a long tradition of sticking with their man for one film too many. But I hope Craig proves me wrong.
He looked awful for his age in Skyfall. He looked great for 54, but he was 44 and should have looked 44. I don’t have much faith in him looking like a good 51 in Bond 25 because he’s already past that.
When you think about it, DAF is just lackluster all around. As close as Bond ever came to malaise. But I always thought AVTAK is a pretty good film that is spoiled by the fact that Moore is obviously past it. I wonder if this film will suffer a similar fate?
That character is not James Bond.
I definitely part ways with Superdaddy on Craig.....but at least he is honest enough to just basically say he doesn't like him. Roger Moore was beloved by many as Bond, I couldn't wait until his tenure ended (and that was a long wait) because I really disliked the direction the films had taken with his version of Bond so I can understand people who don't care for Craig. But on a more objective level, if Craig looks like crap in Bond 25, then he looks like crap and that's not a good thing.
They also ditched one Bond one film too early. Even as a fully paid up 'Daltonista' I conced that had he got to make GE he may well have bloomed. If they had made the move one film earlier he may have got to make 3 (not everyone's favourite outcome I know) Timing and casting is a tricky business to be sure.
I count two....