Was Scaramanga right about Bond?

Doctor Who

Francisco Scaramanga: "We are the same. We are the best...Come, come, Mr. Bond, you disappoint me. You get as much fulfillment out of killing as I do, so why don't you admit it?"

Was Scaramanga right?

Thunderpussy

No

Chriscoop

Doctor Who wrote:

Francisco Scaramanga: "We are the same. We are the best...Come, come, Mr. Bond, you disappoint me. You get as much fulfillment out of killing as I do, so why don't you admit it?"

Was Scaramanga right?

In the literary sense Bond only killed when necessary, I don't think it fulfilled him though, The personal kllls in the film definitely, Bond looked pretty fulfilled when he put Blofeld in the hot mud in DAF,

Number24

Scaramanga has no moral Code and doesn't seem to care about other people, Bond does.

Chriscoop

The difference is mainly that Bond only kills bad people or those who would kill him.... For queen and country, Scaramanga is a psychotic who kills forI money.

Dirty Punker

Well, in the latest Bonds and in DAD, they are pushing the fact that Bond is nothing more than a British assassin but we both know that he's so much more.
In GoldenEye, he had to kill those soldiers...even though they were just doing their job, under orders from a psychotic.
I don't believe that Mr Bond is a killer, nor that he gets fulfillment out of killing.
He hides his emotions and tries to kill only when necessary.
In the same movie, when he crushes a police car, it is made clear that Bond has no interest in killing innocents.
The girl in TLD?
I can't help but wonder what were the cinematic Bond's thoughts during the dinner scene with Scaramanga.

Firemass

Dirty Punker wrote:

I can't help but wonder what were the cinematic Bond's thoughts during the dinner scene with Scaramanga.

How could you wonder? Roger spelled it out pretty clearly.

Dirty Punker

Firemass wrote:

Dirty Punker wrote:

I can't help but wonder what were the cinematic Bond's thoughts during the dinner scene with Scaramanga.

How could you wonder? Roger spelled it out pretty clearly.

He did but an adaptation wouldn't hurt.
Sorry for the confusion.

Doctor Who

Dirty Punker wrote:

Firemass wrote:

Dirty Punker wrote:

I can't help but wonder what were the cinematic Bond's thoughts during the dinner scene with Scaramanga.

How could you wonder? Roger spelled it out pretty clearly.

He did but an adaptation wouldn't hurt.
Sorry for the confusion.

It obviously angered him, because killing is something he doesn't enjoy doing as it is (kind of hates himself for it), and to have (in his eyes) a thug like Scaramanga think he's just like him is probably insulting. It also probably hit home to his own thoughts about his job and sense of morality. Yes, he kills men who are killers, but how many women and innocent pawns die in the process?

Thunderpussy

..... and how many innocents and women are saved because of Bond's actions. :007)

heartbroken_mr_drax

"A pittance of a pension and a hearty well done from Her Majesty the Queen!"

Thunderpussy

Who would have thought that in a few short years Her Majesty would be joining 007 on a mission.
opening the London Olympics.

Gassy Man

Movie Bond has been retconned in more recent years to reflect changing tastes. In 1975, when that line was uttered, it wasn't meant to be taken seriously but as an indication that as the villain, Scaramanga just didn't get it. Bond wasn't the killer -- Scaramanga was. He was trying to elevate himself more to the level of hero than lower Bond to the level of villain.

Fleming's Bond could afford to be more ambiguous on the page because literature typically requires more depth than film -- even escapist ones. The dashing but deadly sort that Sean Connery evinced so well onscreen would seem pretty cartoonish on the page. But now we even want our movie heroes to be ambiguous. It's not enough to credit them as the hero with a dirty job to do. They're a dirty hero.