James Bond Rolex Question

jared_nomakjared_nomak Posts: 1,943MI6 Agent
in James Bond Memorabilia, Collecting & Props
Hi
I have an ever increasing collection of James Bond Omega but these are a lot cheaper compaired to a James Bond Rolex.
I don't have £30 to £50K to spend on a No Crown guard Rolex has anyone here put together a Sort of Rolex Frankenstein watch using a Rolex Movement and replacement and vintage Rolex parts, I know it will not be the real thing but better than a fake in my eyes.
The same goes with the buzz saw Rolex has anyone done a copy of that too
Any info or thoughts would be appricated
Ross

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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Does it have to be an early Sub? Bond has worn much more modern versions in the films up to 1989. You can get them at decent prices and the 5513 is the most beautiful of them all.
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Does it have to be an early Sub? Bond has worn much more modern versions in the films up to 1989. You can get them at decent prices and the 5513 is the most beautiful of them all.
    You can get Dalton's Date Sub for about 4 to 6k.
    7-8k for a proper 5513 (riveted bracelet et al).
    By the time you get the 6538, I think that you will appreciate the beauty of the 5513 and decide against it.
    a reasonable rate of return
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Dirty Punker wrote:
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Does it have to be an early Sub? Bond has worn much more modern versions in the films up to 1989. You can get them at decent prices and the 5513 is the most beautiful of them all.

    By the time you get the 6538, I think that you will appreciate the beauty of the 5513 and decide against it.

    Exactly :)
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  • jared_nomakjared_nomak Posts: 1,943MI6 Agent
    I do fancy a 5513 and a 5512 eventually as I am a Steve McQueen fan too but fancy the original look of the no crown bond
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Maybe that interests you:

    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/42501/a-contemporary-james-bond-rolex/

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  • CommandantCommandant Posts: 1,374MI6 Agent
    jared_nomak wrote:
    Hi
    I have an ever increasing collection of James Bond Omega but these are a lot cheaper compaired to a James Bond Rolex.
    I don't have £30 to £50K to spend on a No Crown guard Rolex has anyone here put together a Sort of Rolex Frankenstein watch using a Rolex Movement and replacement and vintage Rolex parts, I know it will not be the real thing but better than a fake in my eyes.
    The same goes with the buzz saw Rolex has anyone done a copy of that too
    Any info or thoughts would be appricated
    Ross

    This will cost you a fortune!
    Rolex spare parts are not cheap...
    Also, The 6538 uses very specific parts (bezel, bezel insert, Crown,...)
    I'm afraid the end result won't look good.
  • jared_nomakjared_nomak Posts: 1,943MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Maybe that interests you:

    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/42501/a-contemporary-james-bond-rolex/

    dsc00812tac5hmkpr2.jpg

    I remember reading about yours at the time you did it and like the look of it and the ones from project x but certainly would not pay project x money for one
  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,757Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    Maybe that interests you:

    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/42501/a-contemporary-james-bond-rolex/

    dsc00812tac5hmkpr2.jpg

    It interests me...could you send it to me for a better look please, Higgybum :D
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    jared_nomak wrote:
    Higgins wrote:
    Maybe that interests you:

    https://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/42501/a-contemporary-james-bond-rolex/

    dsc00812tac5hmkpr2.jpg

    I remember reading about yours at the time you did it and like the look of it and the ones from project x but certainly would not pay project x money for one

    Well, mine was not ProjectX money for sure ;)
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  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Dirty Punker wrote:
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Does it have to be an early Sub? Bond has worn much more modern versions in the films up to 1989. You can get them at decent prices and the 5513 is the most beautiful of them all.

    By the time you get the 6538, I think that you will appreciate the beauty of the 5513 and decide against it.

    Exactly :)

    The 5513 is the one I'll be buying when I get up the nerve to purchase a vintage Sub. I know Connery didn't wear it, but Laz and Roger are good enough for me. -{
  • jared_nomakjared_nomak Posts: 1,943MI6 Agent
    IMG_0054.jpg

    What's people's thoughts on this, bit of a Frankenstein watch made up mostly of real Rolex parts so I am told, genuine reflex movement and albeit about £5k a genuine one like this sold at auction for $267k in 2014.
  • CommandantCommandant Posts: 1,374MI6 Agent
    edited September 2017
    jared_nomak wrote:
    IMG_0054.jpg

    What's people's thoughts on this, bit of a Frankenstein watch made up mostly of real Rolex parts so I am told, genuine reflex movement and albeit about £5k a genuine one like this sold at auction for $267k in 2014.

    Hum...Fake dial, Crown and bezel.
    Would need other pics to comment on the case.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Stick to a nice 5513 as others mentioned {[]
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  • jared_nomakjared_nomak Posts: 1,943MI6 Agent
    Point taken, think the guy said the crown, hands and bezel were all Rolex
    Might look good to the untrained eye but those that know
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    a cobbled-together Rolex with fake or not matching part bears no value*. It may be attractive for you for the moment but good luck selling such a watch again.

    Like others say, try to get a 5513, but you won't be able to find decent 5513 for less than $8000,--

    * keep in mind that my Submariner project could have been reversed to the original state and I've only unsed genuine Rolex parts.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    What is Rolex stance on servicing a "Frankenwatch"? I know omega won't service my SM300 because it has replacement parts, even though other than the crystal all parts are genuine nos. Is a Frankenwatch one that uses some genuine and some non genuine parts? Like Higgins Rolex my SM300 can be put back to its original state as I have the original parts kept safely.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Rolex won't service a watch with non-genuine parts - unless you pay them to bring it back into original condition. And that goes down to aftermarket bezel inserts!

    I've once tried to get a watch without a dial serviced by them, they even refused to put a new dial on it.
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  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Hate to agree with the freak, but Higgins is right. Leave that thing well alone.
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  • CommandantCommandant Posts: 1,374MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Rolex won't service a watch with non-genuine parts - unless you pay them to bring it back into original condition. And that goes down to aftermarket bezel inserts!

    I've once tried to get a watch without a dial serviced by them, they even refused to put a new dial on it.

    I second this comment.
    Rolex will not service a watch that is not 100% original.
  • jared_nomakjared_nomak Posts: 1,943MI6 Agent
    What would one pay for a 5512 as worn by Steve McQueen and any suggestions of where to get genuine 5512 or 5513 relox
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    jared_nomak wrote:
    What would one pay for a 5512 as worn by Steve McQueen and any suggestions of where to get genuine 5512 or 5513 relox
    chrono24.com is a good place to start.
    Hodinkee usually has some for sale, not sure right now.
    a reasonable rate of return
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    edited September 2017
    jared_nomak wrote:
    What would one pay for a 5512 as worn by Steve McQueen and any suggestions of where to get genuine 5512 or 5513 relox

    Authorized Rolex dealers will often sell pre-owned/vintage watches. A reputable jeweler who knew what you were looking for could keep his/her eyes open for you. I'd also want to hold the thing before I bought it since you'll likely be parting with $8-12k. Chrono24 and Hodinkee are fun places to browse watches, but I'd never buy from them.

    It could be a long process to get a good one, so I would recommend patience above all else.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    edited September 2017
    I wouldnt buy vintage unless it was from a reputable source. Its a minefield

    There are a few places in UK which are highly recommended, will dig out the names
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Be very careful with Chrono24. The risks on your side (depending on how you pay) as similar or even worse than with an ebay transacion.

    I've purchased from HQ Milton in the past and can recommend them.
    Make sure that you are getting a watch that has not been polished down - so lugs, case flanks and crownguards must be thick.

    If you've found one, please post it here with pics or alternatively contact Asp9mm or myself for a third opinion.
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    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BOFFERBOFFER Posts: 331MI6 Agent
    All good advice from Higgy baby and the others but here is my slant. Vintage rolex is a mine field and what doesn't come through reputable dealers for thorough inspection goes on ebay or chrono 24. The experts are few and far between and even they have been fooled in the past. The sweeping hand website is top quality and an expert, as is Mike at the old watch shop in southport or even Haywood Milton at Miltons jewellers throughout Liverpool and Chester. Haywood has the best collection of vintage rolex you will ever see in your lifetime and is always the first place I send anyone looking to buy vintage rolex or obtain advice on the same. Comments on rolex service are spot on, if its not original, they don't want to know. There new stance is not to fit any rolex parts to watches in for service unless the parts have just come out of their own drawer, strict is the word with those guys and they prefer to think of the watch as theirs rather than yours. Stay well away from bodged up old Rolex and go with a nice submariner 5513 or 16610 or similar. Enjoy.
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    THE name is HIGGINS!!! X-(
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  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    sounds like FRIGGINS :D :p :v
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