The not so short lived non argumentative political thread.

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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    I'd suggest then that you recommend investing in " gentleman's special interest " items, then we can sell our..... Erm I mean your collections and retire early.
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    :)) :)) :)) Can't do that . There are some
    Very interesting articles in them.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Such as? :D .......
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I only read them for the articles. Only last month
    Was a very moving story of a woman's struggle to
    Keep her car clean. As she would get her clothes wet
    And have to take them off. It really puts it in to perspective
    How luck I am to be able to wash my car. With out that
    Happening to me.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,310MI6 Agent
    I have made a new drink for this bar. It's called "Brexit". It goes down well, but may have a bitter aftertaste :D
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Just so long as you never use the expression.....
    " could I offer you a stiff one ? " ;)

    The problem with a Brexit drink. Is no one can agree
    To what goes in to it :D
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,310MI6 Agent
    Let's have an election to chose a bartender who decides what the Brexit contains. That way it will be a stronger drink! :))
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Well it would have to have gin, possibly some scotch whisky, or maybe not, some Guinness that's been smuggled over the Irish border, and garnished with a daffodil or leak? And in fairness to the rest of Europe they should have a drink too, that they can all enjoy and paid for by our teutonic members -{
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    Let's have an election to chose a bartender who decides what the Brexit contains. That way it will be a stronger drink! :))
    :)) we could ask tb2, but as he's Scottish he may or may not want to be part of it. :D
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    True he's very Independent ;)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Okay, here's the deal- the 'memo' came out and peeps smelled the political blood about to spilled in Washington... wait until Donald falls, THEN you'll see a REAL drop. It's gonna be messy in all ways you can predict, but we'll get through it, just like in 2008. -{
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Okay, here's the deal- the 'memo' came out and peeps smelled the political blood about to spilled in Washington... wait until Donald falls, THEN you'll see a REAL drop. It's gonna be messy in all ways you can predict, but we'll get through it, just like in 2008. -{
    This is interesting, so are you saying this drop in the markets is politicaly driven? Is Nixon back?
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    US trade deficit rose from 481.000.000.000 in 2016 to 566.000.000.000 in 2017

    "America First" obviously works :D
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Okay, here's the deal- the 'memo' came out and peeps smelled the political blood about to spilled in Washington... wait until Donald falls, THEN you'll see a REAL drop. It's gonna be messy in all ways you can predict, but we'll get through it, just like in 2008. -{
    This is interesting, so are you saying this drop in the markets is politicaly driven? Is Nixon back?
    Well, it's confidence driven, and it's about to get politically VERY messy here, so in that way, yeah. My Wife wants a new home, but I told her we aren't even thinking about selling this place and getting another until this Trump/Alt-Right/ultra-deregulation mess is behind us. This is about to be a very unstable time for America. The markets will react accordingly...
    Donald is Tricky Dicky reborn.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • VesperMelogranoVesperMelograno The SouthPosts: 901MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Okay, here's the deal- the 'memo' came out and peeps smelled the political blood about to spilled in Washington... wait until Donald falls, THEN you'll see a REAL drop. It's gonna be messy in all ways you can predict, but we'll get through it, just like in 2008. -{
    This is interesting, so are you saying this drop in the markets is politicaly driven? Is Nixon back?
    Well, it's confidence driven, and it's about to get politically VERY messy here, so in that way, yeah. My Wife wants a new home, but I told her we aren't even thinking about selling this place and getting another until this Trump/Alt-Right/ultra-deregulation mess is behind us. This is about to be a very unstable time for America. The markets will react accordingly...
    Donald is Tricky Dicky reborn.
    I saw a poster at a #metoo event and I wish I had taken a picture. It said "at least actual Nazis don't show up at our protests." It is funny... but then you think about it...
    I've always wanted to have Christmas in Turkey
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    chrisisall wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Okay, here's the deal- the 'memo' came out and peeps smelled the political blood about to spilled in Washington... wait until Donald falls, THEN you'll see a REAL drop. It's gonna be messy in all ways you can predict, but we'll get through it, just like in 2008. -{
    This is interesting, so are you saying this drop in the markets is politicaly driven? Is Nixon back?
    Well, it's confidence driven, and it's about to get politically VERY messy here, so in that way, yeah. My Wife wants a new home, but I told her we aren't even thinking about selling this place and getting another until this Trump/Alt-Right/ultra-deregulation mess is behind us. This is about to be a very unstable time for America. The markets will react accordingly...
    Donald is Tricky Dicky reborn.
    So what's sparked all this sudden activity over there? What's this memo is it in the public domain?
    Oh BTW, temporary bar is shut now as SABS is back open and the milky bars are on Barbel ( not literally) -{
    It was either that.....or the priesthood
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Chriscoop wrote:
    chrisisall wrote:
    Chriscoop wrote:
    This is interesting, so are you saying this drop in the markets is politicaly driven? Is Nixon back?
    Well, it's confidence driven, and it's about to get politically VERY messy here, so in that way, yeah. My Wife wants a new home, but I told her we aren't even thinking about selling this place and getting another until this Trump/Alt-Right/ultra-deregulation mess is behind us. This is about to be a very unstable time for America. The markets will react accordingly...
    Donald is Tricky Dicky reborn.
    So what's sparked all this sudden activity over there? What's this memo is it in the public domain?
    Oh BTW, temporary bar is shut now as SABS is back open and the milky bars are on Barbel ( not literally) -{
    The Republican secret memo was supposed to show Donald was being targeted unfairly by the FBI at the behest of Hillary & Obama, but proved to be a mere opinion piece by a Republican loudmouth- it shows the desperation of the GOP as Mueller gets closer to indicting the bunch of them for racketeering, money laundering & collusion. https://www.npr.org/2018/02/02/582828461/fact-check-read-the-gop-memo-released-by-house-intelligence-committee IMO, this memo caused the sudden Dow drop as anxiety over a Constitutional Crisis looms larger.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited February 2018
    Imo that memo blatantly and obviously only serves 1 purpose:

    To target and harm the Muller investigation (Russian influence with the elections and collusion of Team Trump).
    The investigation comes closer and closer to Trump and his team is doing everything to stop this!

    Now that all attempts failed so far, they decided go go the filthy and nasty way:

    This entire theater targets 3 persons:

    - The FBI boss C. A Wrey who obviously refused to be in the "Team Trump" and would be able to slow down the Muller investigation
    - Mr. Rod Rosenstein who supervises that investigation and could theoretically fire Muller which he refuses.
    He would be the person that could start a future impeachment.

    - Muller himself.

    The goal is to throw as much dirt as possible on the FBI and the 3 persons to undermine the credibility to the future outcomes of the investigations that won't be good for Team Trump.

    And it's not so much about Russia's connections to Team Trump, it's more about obstruction of justice and that will be impeachable.

    Now, where I disagree with Chris is that this memo has very much to do with what goes on at the stock market.
    Everybody warned that there will be a correction sooner or later. The recent rally was based on emotions (greed), the downfall was based on emotions (fear) and computer programs.

    Inflation in the USA goes up, wages and employment go up and that will mean that prices will go up.
    Then interest rates and bonds go up and this makes the stockmarket less attractive. Keep in mind that the lack of profits in alternative investments (bonds, real estate etc) put a lot of available money into the stock market and that money is now moving partially back.

    Additionally, computer programs react quickly and significantly to downwards reaction and when the competitor sells, your own programme sells, too.

    I am aware, that the reasons are far more complex but you get an idea.
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Sounds reasonable... still I think the vicarious political atmosphere plays into it on some level at least.
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Absolutely! {[]
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,310MI6 Agent
    That's a relief. I fear Higgins' had too many "Brexit's" already :v
  • chrisisallchrisisall Western Mass, USAPosts: 9,062MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    That's a relief. I fear Higgins' had too many "Brexit's" already :v
    :))
    Dalton & Connery rule. Brozz was cool.
    #1.TLD/LTK 2.TND 3.GF 4.GE 5.DN 6.FYEO 7.FRWL 8.TMWTGG 9.TWINE 10.YOLT/QOS
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,310MI6 Agent
    No matter if you prefer a strong or weak Brexit, one is enough for most people.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,310MI6 Agent
    Enough joking for now (perhaps....)
    The largest opposition party in Denmark, the Social Democrats, have changed their position on immigration. Some suggestions are radical:
    - It should no longer be possible to apply for asylum on Danish soil. Instead there will be centers outside of Europe where people can apply.
    - Denmark will only take people from UN refugee camps, something the country doesn't today.
    - A limit will be set by politicians on how many non-western immigrants can be let in, based on how many it's possible to integrate successfully into Danish society.
    -A ten-year plan should be made with the goal that no residential areas or schools will have more than 30% non-western immigrants and their descendants.
    - More people should be helped where they live. A Marshall Plan for Africa should be set in place.


    What do you think? Any opinions?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    The population will decide through a democratic vote. These ideas will
    either be Accepted or Rejected.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,310MI6 Agent
    Yes, of course. But do you have an opinion on these suggestions?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I'm not fully informed about the problems with immigration in Denmark
    Although I'm guessing with a population of around 5.5 million, they
    couldn't comfortably take too many immigrants before numbers became
    a problem. There is a theory that if you change the population of a city,
    country by 10%, you change the culture forever. Whether or not that's
    a good or bad thing, will be up to the voters.
    Myself, I think every country has an obligation to take some immigrants
    to ease the suffering, but how many etc is up to the populations of those
    countries to decide.
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,113MI6 Agent
    Myself, I think every country has an obligation to take some immigrants
    to ease the suffering

    If you agree to take a certain bald Oompa-Loompa with a bad comb-over and his soulless children, I think it would do a lot to ease the suffering of many in the United States.
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,310MI6 Agent
    There is a lot to what you write. I think letting in a large number of people, especially from other cultures, is a big and important step to take. It should only be done after a well-informed, broad and open debate. Ideally this debate should be open, but not marked by racism. Sadly that's pretty much impossible in the real world, but it should be a goal.
    I fear many countries haven't really had a good debate, often because of political correctness taken much too far. Sweden comes to mind. One of their most important newspaper actually wrote that all arguments/reasons against immigration are racist. This view isn't a good contribution towards a good understanding of the issue. Denmark has generally had a more open debate, for better or worse. Norway is somewhere between the Swedish situation and the Danish one, but probably close to the Danish model.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    I see from the headlines That Germany has a
    Government again . So congratulations to our
    German cousins -{
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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