Orlebar Brown T-Shirt Review (Other Brand Notes as well)

Sterling ArcherSterling Archer Posts: 197MI6 Agent
Well, as promised here is my review. Spoiler Alert: Best T-Shirt ever made.

Little background, I've bought just about every recommended T-shirt on the market to try to find the perfect T. That includes, Hanes, Calvin Klein, J-Crew, Ralph Lauren, Sunspel (their standard models and riviera), Macy's brand, old Orlebar Brown, among others as well. Nothing ever fit me perfectly.

My Stats:
5'11 1/2 (Barefoot, longer torso relative to my legs so shirts wear on me as if I'm a taller guy)
42 Chest
30 Waist
170lb
Body Type: Atheltic, Lean, Muscular
I ordered a size Medium OB-T (Tailored Fit)


Issues with other brands:
Hanes: Worst, cheap T-Shirts with boxy, ugly fit but at the price hard to argue

Calvin Klein: Tried their stretch models. I wear them to the gym and under business attire but out in Public way too tight and thin. Flatters my physique too much...

J-Crew (Slim Fit): My favorite yet. Some sizing inconsistencies among colors hold it back but the fit still isn't perfect. Chest and Arms are pretty spot on (chest/arms a bit too tight in relation to the rest of the cut) but the taper through the body could use more work. Material is good but not great. If you're on a budget and just want something that is decent quality and a good fit this is the option.

Ralph Lauren (Custom Fit): Insane sizing and quality inconsistencies among the shirts. I also had to size up in these as the Medium was way too small. I ordered a Large custom fit in red and the fit was pretty darn spot on and then I ordered a Navy and it felt a size+ too small.

Sunspel: The beloved James Bond brand. Awesome quality T-Shirts, feel amazing but the fit isn't right for ME. If you have a normal taper from chest to waist or you're a bigger guy then I recommend these over Orlebar Brown. This is the perfect fitting "classic" T for the normal shaped man. The Riviera shirt is a bit tighter all around but don't be fooled into thinking there is a world of difference. Even if you are slimmer or more muscular than the average guy, I'd recommend Sunspel over Orlebar Brown if you're conservative. Not everyone wants to show off their physique and Sunspel is far from unflattering to begin with.

Macys: Quality matches the price, so don't expect anything great. Material is very thin. Fit is good but could be slimmer, especially in the stomach and waist. I have a slim fit shirt and it's not that slim but certainly not boxy either.

Old Orlebar Brown: Now that I've seen David's reviews, among other people on this forum and outside, I'm convinced Orlebar sizing has changed to true to size. Back when I ordered their old shirt, you had to size up for your proper size (I learned the hard way). I'm wearing the medium in the same shirt I owned in medium and this ones fits like a medium and the old Orlebar Brown (white label with red cross tag) fit like a small.

Now onto the review of the shirt.

Quality: The material is phenomenal. You will NOT get this material on $30 T-Shirts. It's not a marketing gimmick. The shirt feels amazing on the body, in fact it's the type of clothing you wear and feel better with it on rather than off. The shirt properly stretches and gives no signs of tearing or not being to handle use. 10/10

Fit: The best fit of a T-shirt I've ever owned. It's off the rack and feels like it was tailored for me. The stretch plays a part in this as it conforms to your physique. Again, this is all subjective as I'm quite a slim, muscular guy. If you're out of shape, then I do not recommend this brand. Go with Sunspel if that's the case. These are cut for lean guys and flatters that sort of physique. My only complaint are the arms. They are too tight. I have decent sized arms but they aren't massive by any means and it's obvious this shirt is designed with European slim physiques in mind. Big American arms weren't the target audience and someone with smaller arms could easily fill out this shirts arms. The taper on this is insane. It'll stick to the body of most guys (size up if you want a looser fit or go with the classic fit model but if that's the case again I'd recommend Sunspel as I have experience with that brand and will vouch for it). I can raise my arms in a full extension and 0 stomach shows at my height. For a shirt that fits this way, that's not common at all. 9.5/10

Value (Is it worth it?): I'm out in a warm weather state. A T-Shirt is much more than a layering piece. It's something that is going to get use every week on its own. For me, I've tried to find the perfect fitting T-Shirt and this is the only brand that has really nailed it for me. If you're just going to layer T-Shirts, then it might be hard to justify this price. You'll still feel great with the T-Shirt as a base layer but you'll miss out on the body flattering properties. At $90, I simply can't give it a perfect rating. You could buy a good quality T-Shirt and have it tailored for the price of this (less to be honest) but that doesn't take away from the fact that the material quality of this T-Shirt is simply a cut above. 8/10

Here are some pics of the fit on my body. Even a vanity flexing shot thrown in to demonstrate the stretch of the shirt and the fact that the shirt easily conforms with the body.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I'd like to thank David for introducing me to this brand. I'll be slowly but surely collecting as many items as I can from this brand. It's all about fitting it into my budget but I think they are officially my favorite brand on the market. Their button down shirts are phenomenal as well!


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  • ichaiceichaice LondonPosts: 603MI6 Agent
    Great review and I agree. At the last count I had over 40 OB items I think :s
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  • _Stocks_Stocks EnglandPosts: 392MI6 Agent
    Thanks for taking the time to write this excellent post, if I wasn't completely convinced I need to embrace and welcome OB into my life, I am now! Brilliant stuff.
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  • Sterling ArcherSterling Archer Posts: 197MI6 Agent
    edited December 2017
    ichaice wrote:
    Great review and I agree. At the last count I had over 40 OB items I think :s

    Well, I have 3 T-Shirts now, swim trunks, and the shirt from Skyfall so I think I have a bit of catching up to do :))
    _Stocks wrote:
    Thanks for taking the time to write this excellent post, if I wasn't completely convinced I need to embrace and welcome OB into my life, I am now! Brilliant stuff.

    You're welcome and I don't think you'll be disappointed! Wait until their winter sale as there are usually some great discounts.
  • The Bond ExperienceThe Bond Experience Newtown, PAPosts: 5,490Quartermasters
    Fantastic review...love the detail, description, and story. I wish more people did reviews like this...I know this brand well and I STILL found it informative. Thank you!
  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart Posts: 314MI6 Agent
    Great review, and I appreciate the inclusion of fit vs. body dimensions. It's incredible how many clothing reviews one can find that say something along the lines of "the fit is perfect, everyone should get this!" as if every person on the planet has the same proportions. Thanks for all the detailed detail..!

    I still pine for 1980s Calvin Klein tee shirts. Those fit as if they were made for me, and the quality was shockingly good. Well, not shocking back then because I think we were used to things (even from less expensive brands) being better quality, now it seems many brands will cheap out on anything if it will save the a fraction of a penny on a hundred dollars.

    At least we have brands like OB and Sunspel...
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    edited December 2017
    So who is brave enough to buy and compare a Tom Ford tee? :D

    I have many Sunspel and OB-Ts

    Orlebars very soft and feel more luxurious. Early days but imagine Sunspel more durable but could be wrong. Did manage to put a hole in one OB but they are def more comfortable.

    I did not like the fit of the Sammy Tee compared to the OB-T (Sammy very relaxed fit)

    Ive also had the stitching of the bottom hem on a few Sunspel Tees and Polos come undone. I have a 50/50 success rate with Sunspel regarding stitching and defects hence only buy in person when in London. Though I believe they have upped standards since my mail order / complaint days.
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  • James BrosnanJames Brosnan Posts: 865MI6 Agent
    Just a fantastic review my man! So true about the fit. And, the shirts look amazing on you and completely compliment your envy inducing "V" shape. Love what you said about the importance of a high quality T in warmer climates. OB's clothes are so nice they feel like the warm weather equivalent of an expensive jacket. I live in Florida, and OB is my favorite brand as well. Their linen is a thing of beauty. I always grew up wondering why there was nothing classy for men to wear in warm weather, and OB solved that problem beautifully. Really phenomenal review! -{
    "Whoever she was, I must have scared the living daylights out of her." & "Tell mother I died game."
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    So who is brave enough to buy and compare a Tom Ford tee? :D

    I have many Sunspel and OB-Ts

    Orlebars very soft and feel more luxurious. Early days but imagine Sunspel more durable but could be wrong. Did manage to put a hole in one OB but they are def more comfortable.

    I did not like the fit of the Sammy Tee compared to the OB-T (Sammy very relaxed fit)

    Ive also had the stitching of the bottom hem on a few Sunspel Tees and Polos come undone. I have a 50/50 success rate with Sunspel regarding stitching and defects hence only buy in person when in London. Though I believe they have upped standards since my mail order / complaint days.
    It seems like Bond prefers OB over Sunspel now. I know they supplied underwear but overall Sunspel hasn't been a prominent Bond brand since Casino Royale over a decade ago. Perhaps that's a good thing considering the questionable quality on some of their recent products? I cant speak much on Sunspel since I only had the Riviera crewneck T-shirt that I last wore when walking around London but it has since vanished and I haven't really been itching to replace it.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    So who is brave enough to buy and compare a Tom Ford tee? :D

    I have many Sunspel and OB-Ts

    Orlebars very soft and feel more luxurious. Early days but imagine Sunspel more durable but could be wrong. Did manage to put a hole in one OB but they are def more comfortable.

    I did not like the fit of the Sammy Tee compared to the OB-T (Sammy very relaxed fit)

    Ive also had the stitching of the bottom hem on a few Sunspel Tees and Polos come undone. I have a 50/50 success rate with Sunspel regarding stitching and defects hence only buy in person when in London. Though I believe they have upped standards since my mail order / complaint days.
    It seems like Bond prefers OB over Sunspel now. I know they supplied underwear but overall Sunspel hasn't been a prominent Bond brand since Casino Royale over a decade ago. Perhaps that's a good thing considering the questionable quality on some of their recent products? I cant speak much on Sunspel since I only had the Riviera crewneck T-shirt that I last wore when walking around London but it has since vanished and I haven't really been itching to replace it.

    I think Lindy Hemming was the big Sunspel fan since I believe as well as DC in Casino she also fitted Bale with black tees in Batman.

    DC was supposed to wear Sunspel underwear though in SPECTRE
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    welshboy78 wrote:
    So who is brave enough to buy and compare a Tom Ford tee? :D

    I have many Sunspel and OB-Ts

    Orlebars very soft and feel more luxurious. Early days but imagine Sunspel more durable but could be wrong. Did manage to put a hole in one OB but they are def more comfortable.

    I did not like the fit of the Sammy Tee compared to the OB-T (Sammy very relaxed fit)

    Ive also had the stitching of the bottom hem on a few Sunspel Tees and Polos come undone. I have a 50/50 success rate with Sunspel regarding stitching and defects hence only buy in person when in London. Though I believe they have upped standards since my mail order / complaint days.
    It seems like Bond prefers OB over Sunspel now. I know they supplied underwear but overall Sunspel hasn't been a prominent Bond brand since Casino Royale over a decade ago. Perhaps that's a good thing considering the questionable quality on some of their recent products? I cant speak much on Sunspel since I only had the Riviera crewneck T-shirt that I last wore when walking around London but it has since vanished and I haven't really been itching to replace it.

    I think Lindy Hemming was the big Sunspel fan since I believe as well as DC in Casino she also fitted Bale with black tees in Batman.

    DC was supposed to wear Sunspel underwear though in SPECTRE
    Has Craig ever been seen in Sunspel off screen?
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Not that I know of
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  • Double0zeroDouble0zero Los AngelesPosts: 220MI6 Agent
    Welsheboy 78,

    What size do you wear in the OB-T vs Sammy?? I was planing to order the Sammy’s since I already have some OB-Ts
    welshboy78 wrote:
    So who is brave enough to buy and compare a Tom Ford tee? :D

    I have many Sunspel and OB-Ts

    Orlebars very soft and feel more luxurious. Early days but imagine Sunspel more durable but could be wrong. Did manage to put a hole in one OB but they are def more comfortable.

    I did not like the fit of the Sammy Tee compared to the OB-T (Sammy very relaxed fit)

    Ive also had the stitching of the bottom hem on a few Sunspel Tees and Polos come undone. I have a 50/50 success rate with Sunspel regarding stitching and defects hence only buy in person when in London. Though I believe they have upped standards since my mail order / complaint days.
  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    I grabbed XL in both but should of sized down in Sammy
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  • Sterling ArcherSterling Archer Posts: 197MI6 Agent
    The Mantis wrote:
    Fantastic review...love the detail, description, and story. I wish more people did reviews like this...I know this brand well and I STILL found it informative. Thank you!

    Thanks! I do as well as it would've been a big help to me but that's why we have this community. We help each other out so I thought it was time for me to contribute. If I get hold of another popular item, I'll be happy to write up another review if people want me to.
    Great review, and I appreciate the inclusion of fit vs. body dimensions. It's incredible how many clothing reviews one can find that say something along the lines of "the fit is perfect, everyone should get this!" as if every person on the planet has the same proportions. Thanks for all the detailed detail..!

    I still pine for 1980s Calvin Klein tee shirts. Those fit as if they were made for me, and the quality was shockingly good. Well, not shocking back then because I think we were used to things (even from less expensive brands) being better quality, now it seems many brands will cheap out on anything if it will save the a fraction of a penny on a hundred dollars.

    At least we have brands like OB and Sunspel...

    There are indie/smaller brands coming up that are pushing quality over branding. They aren't cheap but at least you're not paying for a brand name. I just ordered a Pistol Lake Henley, haven't had a chance to try it on, and could not believe how it felt in hand after I opened the package. They make stuff in LA, might want to check out their website just in case something catches your eye. Being younger, I do envy the idea of getting quality without having to break the bank.
    Just a fantastic review my man! So true about the fit. And, the shirts look amazing on you and completely compliment your envy inducing "V" shape. Love what you said about the importance of a high quality T in warmer climates. OB's clothes are so nice they feel like the warm weather equivalent of an expensive jacket. I live in Florida, and OB is my favorite brand as well. Their linen is a thing of beauty. I always grew up wondering why there was nothing classy for men to wear in warm weather, and OB solved that problem beautifully. Really phenomenal review! -{

    Thanks! Yes, OB is a warm weather state savior.
    Has Craig ever been seen in Sunspel off screen?

    Judging by the way he likes his clothes to fit, he probably wouldn't go with Sunspel. Maybe he wears their socks and underwear though :)) . Honestly, later on in life I wouldn't mind upgrading all my underwear/socks/undershirts/basic layers to Sunspel. I think that's what they are known for and I'm sure they are wonderful.
  • ichaiceichaice LondonPosts: 603MI6 Agent
    One thing I would say about OB is the sizing can be slightly erratic. My collection has items ranging from M down to XS but I have been buying their products for a good few years now.
    Yes. Considerably!
  • CommandantCommandant Posts: 1,374MI6 Agent
    edited December 2017
    You look so fit...your pics are depressing me...
    Thank you nonetheless for the review!
  • jdwad246jdwad246 Posts: 27MI6 Agent
    I apologize for deviating from the topic, but how do people feel about the OB swim suits? I am between a 30 and 31 waist and am curious if people find them to be slim fitting or loose?
  • James BrosnanJames Brosnan Posts: 865MI6 Agent
    jdwad246 wrote:
    I apologize for deviating from the topic, but how do people feel about the OB swim suits? I am between a 30 and 31 waist and am curious if people find them to be slim fitting or loose?

    I wear 29" pants typically, but I take size 28 in OB swim trunks to ensure a sung fit. The side tab adjusters only do so much and a 30 is just too big in me. But, this could be an aspect of them not making a size 29, as I've heard others say go with your regular size. I like mine a little tighter though, so it's about comfort preference as well. -{
    "Whoever she was, I must have scared the living daylights out of her." & "Tell mother I died game."
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  • James BrosnanJames Brosnan Posts: 865MI6 Agent


    Honestly, later on in life I wouldn't mind upgrading all my underwear/socks/undershirts/basic layers to Sunspel. I think that's what they are known for and I'm sure they are wonderful.

    I've thought about doing the exact same thing. I just got a vest from them, and it feels like I'm wearing a cloud! So, now I'm inclined to find out if the rest of their underwear is that amazing sooner rather than later :)). Also have thought about using them exclusively for sleepwear. -{
    "Whoever she was, I must have scared the living daylights out of her." & "Tell mother I died game."
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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    jdwad246 wrote:
    I apologize for deviating from the topic, but how do people feel about the OB swim suits? I am between a 30 and 31 waist and am curious if people find them to be slim fitting or loose?

    I wear 29" pants typically, but I take size 28 in OB swim trunks to ensure a sung fit. The side tab adjusters only do so much and a 30 is just too big in me. But, this could be an aspect of them not making a size 29, as I've heard others say go with your regular size. I like mine a little tighter though, so it's about comfort preference as well. -{

    Agree with this. Could do with mine being a fraction tighter then the side tabs allow
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  • jdwad246jdwad246 Posts: 27MI6 Agent
    Thanks for the information. I an weighing whether or not to pick up a pair. The price scares me, do they ever run sales? I assume the quality is second to none.
  • Sterling ArcherSterling Archer Posts: 197MI6 Agent
    jdwad246 wrote:
    Thanks for the information. I an weighing whether or not to pick up a pair. The price scares me, do they ever run sales? I assume the quality is second to none.

    They don't put their staple color t-shirts on sale, so no black, white, navy, or their standard grey. They always come out with some seasonal colors and those are put on sale. Their more flamboyant colors usually get heavily discounted during their sales and you can get them as low as $30.

    Wait until their Winter/after Christmas sale and there should be some pretty big discounts. Don't be afraid to check out Ebay and other sources as well.
  • OracabessaOracabessa Barrington, Rhode Island, USAPosts: 88MI6 Agent
    jdwad246 wrote:
    Thanks for the information. I an weighing whether or not to pick up a pair. The price scares me, do they ever run sales? I assume the quality is second to none.

    I, also, agree that I find them to be a bit loose fitting---the tabs don't quite do the trick. I'm in the same waist-range as both you and James Brosnan--29-30 and have trouble with the OB's staying on tightly. As for sales, there used to be a one time 10% discount if you signed up for the OB Club. Not sure if they still offer that.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    jdwad246 wrote:
    Thanks for the information. I an weighing whether or not to pick up a pair. The price scares me, do they ever run sales? I assume the quality is second to none.
    They often have sales for previous season designs and colours, also have found a variation in sizing between the different models, I have setters and bulldogs the bulldogs are a tad bigger in the same size.
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  • cmdr_bongcmdr_bong AustraliaPosts: 205MI6 Agent
    Excellent review and pics! Much appreciated for sharing.

    Not to take anything away from OB, but the fact that you are in great shape certainly help with how any T-shirt will fit on you. One of the major bonus getting into shape (besides the obvious health benefit) is that you can get away with wearing clothing from cheaper brands, as you are making the clothes look good, and not necessary the other way around.
  • Sterling ArcherSterling Archer Posts: 197MI6 Agent
    edited December 2017
    cmdr_bong wrote:
    Excellent review and pics! Much appreciated for sharing.

    Not to take anything away from OB, but the fact that you are in great shape certainly help with how any T-shirt will fit on you. One of the major bonus getting into shape (besides the obvious health benefit) is that you can get away with wearing clothing from cheaper brands, as you are making the clothes look good, and not necessary the other way around.

    Flattered but being in shape, at least the type of shape I'm in, I can look significantly better or worse depending on what I wear. Honestly, I can wear certain clothes and people will ask me if I still workout and when I wear something like my Sunspel polos I get comments about the shape I'm in.

    I think what you say applies better to very big dudes who can fill out pretty much any shirt they wear. I have the waist of a girl and the chest/shoulders of a bodybuilder, with above average sized arms. It's very difficult for me to just pick up a piece of clothing at the store and have it fit well.

    Put me in an off the rack dress shirt and trust me I'm not going to look that impressive. Properly tailored shirt? I look like a different person.

    Being in shape makes everything look better. That is no question. Luckily, for most people they can achieve a good body. I started as a skinny fat guy and it took years to transform myself into what I have today. It's been years now that I've been in shape so everyone new in my life just sees me the way I am but I know that it was a journey. Still to this day, I haven't had a single person not make a comment when they see my driver's license (picture was when I got my permit around 15-16 years old).

    OB is just a piece in the puzzle, though clothes can really make a difference. You're right though that OB is not going to take an overweight bloke and turn him into Daniel Craig. Taking the time to have a nice shave, spending a few minutes with some hair product, learning to look people in the eye and be confident, a couple of hours at the gym, turning myself into a well-dressed man (hopefully :007) ), and just taking steps to improve myself overall add up. It's all part of this "Bond Experience" we are part of.

    It would've been nice to wakeup with a great physique and social skills, being good with the ladies, and overall filled with confidence. Still, I'm glad I've been given the opportunity to work up to all those things and with a great community like this we can all help each other. -{
  • James BrosnanJames Brosnan Posts: 865MI6 Agent
    cmdr_bong wrote:
    Excellent review and pics! Much appreciated for sharing.

    Not to take anything away from OB, but the fact that you are in great shape certainly help with how any T-shirt will fit on you. One of the major bonus getting into shape (besides the obvious health benefit) is that you can get away with wearing clothing from cheaper brands, as you are making the clothes look good, and not necessary the other way around.

    Flattered but being in shape, at least the type of shape I'm in, I can look significantly better or worse depending on what I wear. Honestly, I can wear certain clothes and people will ask me if I still workout and when I wear something like my Sunspel polos I get comments about the shape I'm in.

    I think what you say applies better to very big dudes who can fill out pretty much any shirt they wear. I have the waist of a girl and the chest/shoulders of a bodybuilder, with above average sized arms. It's very difficult for me to just pick up a piece of clothing at the store and have it fit well.

    Put me in an off the rack dress shirt and trust me I'm not going to look that impressive. Properly tailored shirt? I look like a different person.

    Being in shape makes everything look better. That is no question. Luckily, for most people they can achieve a good body. I started as a skinny fat guy and it took years to transform myself into what I have today. It's been years now that I've been in shape so everyone new in my life just sees me the way I am but I know that it was a journey. Still to this day, I haven't had a single person not make a comment when they see my driver's license (picture was when I got my permit around 15-16 years old).

    OB is just a piece in the puzzle, though clothes can really make a difference. You're right though that OB is not going to take an overweight bloke and turn him into Daniel Craig. Taking the time to have a nice shave, spending a few minutes with some hair product, learning to look people in the eye and be confident, a couple of hours at the gym, turning myself into a well-dressed man (hopefully :007) ), and just taking steps to improve myself overall add up. It's all part of this "Bond Experience" we are part of.

    It would've been nice to wakeup with a great physique and social skills, being good with the ladies, and overall filled with confidence. Still, I'm glad I've been given the opportunity to work up to all those things and with a great community like this we can all help each other. -{

    Wow man. Just wow! So well put. I can relate to a lot of what you said and completely agree with all of it. Except for that bit about the ladies, as they have always been uncontroably attracted to me, they just haven't realized it yet :))
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  • Sterling ArcherSterling Archer Posts: 197MI6 Agent
    cmdr_bong wrote:
    Excellent review and pics! Much appreciated for sharing.

    Not to take anything away from OB, but the fact that you are in great shape certainly help with how any T-shirt will fit on you. One of the major bonus getting into shape (besides the obvious health benefit) is that you can get away with wearing clothing from cheaper brands, as you are making the clothes look good, and not necessary the other way around.

    Flattered but being in shape, at least the type of shape I'm in, I can look significantly better or worse depending on what I wear. Honestly, I can wear certain clothes and people will ask me if I still workout and when I wear something like my Sunspel polos I get comments about the shape I'm in.

    I think what you say applies better to very big dudes who can fill out pretty much any shirt they wear. I have the waist of a girl and the chest/shoulders of a bodybuilder, with above average sized arms. It's very difficult for me to just pick up a piece of clothing at the store and have it fit well.

    Put me in an off the rack dress shirt and trust me I'm not going to look that impressive. Properly tailored shirt? I look like a different person.

    Being in shape makes everything look better. That is no question. Luckily, for most people they can achieve a good body. I started as a skinny fat guy and it took years to transform myself into what I have today. It's been years now that I've been in shape so everyone new in my life just sees me the way I am but I know that it was a journey. Still to this day, I haven't had a single person not make a comment when they see my driver's license (picture was when I got my permit around 15-16 years old).

    OB is just a piece in the puzzle, though clothes can really make a difference. You're right though that OB is not going to take an overweight bloke and turn him into Daniel Craig. Taking the time to have a nice shave, spending a few minutes with some hair product, learning to look people in the eye and be confident, a couple of hours at the gym, turning myself into a well-dressed man (hopefully :007) ), and just taking steps to improve myself overall add up. It's all part of this "Bond Experience" we are part of.

    It would've been nice to wakeup with a great physique and social skills, being good with the ladies, and overall filled with confidence. Still, I'm glad I've been given the opportunity to work up to all those things and with a great community like this we can all help each other. -{

    Wow man. Just wow! So well put. I can relate to a lot of what you said and completely agree with all of it. Except for that bit about the ladies, as they have always been uncontroably attracted to me, they just haven't realized it yet :))

    :))
  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Being in shape makes everything look better.
    Not to derail the thread but you're absolutely right about that. I think ever since 2006 that being in shape has been an essential part of the "Bond lifestyle" so to speak. To me properly fitting clothes are only part of the equation. What your body looks like underneath them is arguably more important. Like the combination of Craig's muscular physique and his perfectly fitting clothes are what make him look so good.
  • Sterling ArcherSterling Archer Posts: 197MI6 Agent
    Being in shape makes everything look better.
    Not to derail the thread but you're absolutely right about that. I think ever since 2006 that being in shape has been an essential part of the "Bond lifestyle" so to speak. To me properly fitting clothes are only part of the equation. What your body looks like underneath them is arguably more important. Like the combination of Craig's muscular physique and his perfectly fitting clothes are what make him look so good.

    Exactly. Unless you're a collector, what's the point of a Sunspel riviera polo if you have a protruding belly when it's cut in a way to flatter a lean muscular physique? Still, there are cues to take regardless of our physique. The color combinations, styles, and type of clothing all matter.

    Good news is that Craig's physique is absolutely achievable for most people. He's not massive by any means it just takes consistency and care into what you put in your body. Anyhow, men in general didn't even have these sort of physiques we see today until fairly recently. I honestly think you can still look great with proper clothing as long as you're in shape. That doesn't mean you need to be covered in muscle, it just means you need to keep the belly in check. Bond was never meant to be Mr. Olympia and do hope they don't go overboard with the next Bond and give him a Captain America or Superman body because that's simply not Bond. He's not a superhero; he's an agent that has to maintain a certain standard of fitness for appearance and more importantly duty.

    Myself though? I prefer to look like this ;)


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