Sean Connery's Shoemaker for the Bond films?

Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
There has been a lot of discussion about and photos of Connery getting fitted at Anthony Sinclair and Mr Fish for his suits and shirts but as far as I'm concerned, we have no info about his shoemaker for the Bond films.
Roger's loafers were made by Gucci and Ferragamo as per real life but we still have no info about Connery.
Unlike his trilby for Dr No, nobody has claimed responsibility for making his shoes.
Any info and any ideas that I'm missing would be greatly appreciated.
(Lobb? Church's? etc...)
a reasonable rate of return

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  • welshboy78welshboy78 Posts: 10,320MI6 Agent
    Lobb
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    welshboy78 wrote:
    Lobb
    "It is that simple?"
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  • ChriscoopChriscoop Belize Posts: 10,458MI6 Agent
    It's all out there if you dig deep enough ;)
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  • Westward_DriftWestward_Drift Posts: 3,113MI6 Agent
    Welsie is on vacation, so no surprise his posts are short and to the point. :))

    GBP2800 for shoes? :o :s
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    I personally wouldn’t know who made Connery shoes ,but my money would be on John Lobb and Welshboys knowledge on these things is normally gospel .
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  • walther p99walther p99 NJPosts: 3,416MI6 Agent
    Were John Lobb shoes that expensive when Connery wore them? I know Craig wore them in CR but I wonder why they switched over to Churches then C&J in his subsequent films.
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,772MI6 Agent
    I wonder why they switched over to Churches then C&J in his subsequent films.

    It’s probably something as innocuous as Craig favors C&J shoes. Brosnan wore Church’s as well, so that brand had history with Bond just like Lobb. They’re all great choices, and I would assume each has the capacity to produce a high volume of shoes for the films.
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,535MI6 Agent
    Welshy is right, it was Lobb. It was good to see them back in CR, but as everyone has already said, cost and production supply in the quantities needed for subsequent films, once again put them out of the picture. Pun intended.
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    There are two John Lobb shoemakers: the bespoke English shoemaker and the brand based in Paris that does bespoke in Paris and makes ready-to-wear in the UK. The company split in two in 1976, though Paris and London operated separately long before then. Craig wore the ready-to-wear Paris shoes in CR, and Connery would have worn English bespoke. Though it was nice to see the John Lobb name return to Bond in CR, but it's really a completely different shoemaker, even going back to Connery's day.

    Bespoke shoes and suits cost considerably less in the 1960s. The cost has risen much more than inflation. They did not make all of Connery's shoes, and I know another brands has told me that they provided shoes too.
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  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    edited December 2017
    One could say that I was taking steps to the right direction. Quite illuminating.

    Bespoke shoes, huh? It must've been a shame he had ditched them for those dreadful two tones from the Japanese assassin in You Only Live Twice.
    This begs the question; the Luffields, for example, can they be bought bespoke in England and be the same model as the RTW French ones in CR or are they all making the same shoes but it's a different team that makes them at a different quality level?
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  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    One could say that I was taking steps to the right direction. Quite illuminating.

    Bespoke shoes, huh? It must've been a shame he had ditched them for those dreadful two tones from the Japanese assassin in You Only Live Twice.
    This begs the question; the Luffields, for example, can they be bought bespoke in England and be the same model as the RTW French ones in CR or are they all making the same shoes but it's a different team that makes them at a different quality level?

    Don't let the similar names confuse you, since 1976 John Lobb Ltd in London and John Lobb Paris have been completely separate. Before 1976, the companies had the same ownership, but since they both only made bespoke shoes at that time they operated separately. Because JLL and JLP are entirely separate companies, you cannot get JLL to make a shoe that JLP makes. The quality of JLL and JLP bespoke shoes should be on a similar level, though I have never seen any JLP bespoke in person. Bespoke shoes from both companies will be even better quality than the ready-to-wear shoes from JLP. For bespoke shoes, there are no models. JLL an certainly make you a 2-eyelet plain-toe derby like the Luffield, but it will be in their style, not JLP's style.
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  • Bond Collectors' WeekendsBond Collectors' Weekends Gainesville, Florida USAPosts: 1,902MI6 Agent
    Asp9mm wrote:
    Welshy is right, it was Lobb. It was good to see them back in CR, but as everyone has already said, cost and production supply in the quantities needed for subsequent films, once again put them out of the picture. Pun intended.

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  • BalmoralBalmoral Posts: 26MI6 Agent
    JL St. James would be the stereotypical British shoe. The shop is amazing.
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    edited December 2017
    I found this in Goldfinger. The sole is marked "HAND LASTED" which is true considering this the 60s and no shortcuts were taken by any manufacturer yet.
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  • BalmoralBalmoral Posts: 26MI6 Agent
    Nice catch with the pic. So as not to get too shoe nerdy but hand lasting really mean pulling the leather over the last. For the fiction/literature, if done at JLSJ, it definitely would be handmade.

    For the movie, even in the 60's, it would likely have been by one of the Northampton outfitters, and thus probably Goodyear welted.

    I am impressed they used a closed channel soled shoe to alter, which is typically a pricier choice for a prop.
  • Dirty PunkerDirty Punker ...Your Eyes Only, darling."Posts: 2,587MI6 Agent
    Well...they did use an actual Aston Martin DB5 and all of Sean's suits were bespoke, so I don't think they would cut back on his shoes, considering it's a close up.
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  • BalmoralBalmoral Posts: 26MI6 Agent
    It always amazes me how much they are willing to spend... have friends in the industry and it’s astounding be how quick productions are willing to write checks.

    To have been an outfitter and produce all those suits etc. that’s probably enough business for a year just from a movie.
  • Matt SMatt S Oh Cult Voodoo ShopPosts: 6,610MI6 Agent
    Balmoral wrote:
    Nice catch with the pic. So as not to get too shoe nerdy but hand lasting really mean pulling the leather over the last. For the fiction/literature, if done at JLSJ, it definitely would be handmade.

    For the movie, even in the 60's, it would likely have been by one of the Northampton outfitters, and thus probably Goodyear welted.

    I am impressed they used a closed channel soled shoe to alter, which is typically a pricier choice for a prop.

    Hand-lasted for the 1960s wasn't such a big deal. Today a bunch of Northampton shoemakers hand-last their shoes, and those are Goodyear welted. If these shoes are from John Lobb Ltd (which some of Connery's are) they would be hand-lasted, hand-welted and overall completely handmade. Closed channel stitching may be impressive today, but it would have been even more common for mid-range shoes in the 1960s. I used to get shoes with closed channels for 300 USD just 12 years ago. In the 1960s, shoemakers were interested in making their shoes the best they could while today it's more about figuring out where they can cut corners. Forgoing closed channels on the bottom is one of the big places where quality has been cut.
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