Short shooting schedule Bond 25

Justsomeguy

Has anyone put any thought into what the incredibly short shooting schedule will have in terms of the plot of Bond 25? Less than a year of shooting to premier. The only thing I can think of is that we are in for a very stripped down, minimal Bond outing. Thoughts?

Miles Messervy

Justsomeguy wrote:

Has anyone put any thought into what the incredibly short shooting schedule will have in terms of the plot of Bond 25? Less than a year of shooting to premier. The only thing I can think of is that we are in for a very stripped down, minimal Bond outing. Thoughts?

I can’t remember the last time the schedule was more than a year. This schedule is standard fare for Bond.

Matt S

Justsomeguy wrote:

Has anyone put any thought into what the incredibly short shooting schedule will have in terms of the plot of Bond 25? Less than a year of shooting to premier. The only thing I can think of is that we are in for a very stripped down, minimal Bond outing. Thoughts?

Nothing short about it for Bond. This is completely normal.

Arbogast 777

Yep, Spectre actually started a day later...

MrGore

I'm less concerned about the normal shooting schedule. If they've been working on the script for a while now, I assume it has passed through plenty of notes meetings already. Reading the debacle that was the working up of the Spectre script from the Sony leak, I hope they are ahead of the game on this one. And they don't leave revisions so late that a certain duo have to be drafted in at the last moment to add "interesting and familiar action".

I am optimistic this will work out to be an interesting Bond outing. I really want them to keep it simple. Dump all the "we're family" backstory nonsense. This isn't Fast and Furious.

MarkOOMark

MrGore wrote:

Dump all the "we're family" backstory nonsense.

Yes, I hope so... I'm done with that already.

Justsomeguy

MrGore wrote:

I'm less concerned about the normal shooting schedule. If they've been working on the script for a while now, I assume it has passed through plenty of notes meetings already. Reading the debacle that was the working up of the Spectre script from the Sony leak, I hope they are ahead of the game on this one. And they don't leave revisions so late that a certain duo have to be drafted in at the last moment to add "interesting and familiar action".

I am optimistic this will work out to be an interesting Bond outing. I really want them to keep it simple. Dump all the "we're family" backstory nonsense. This isn't Fast and Furious.

A 'certain duo' need to be called in LOL, I hear that. Yeah tired of the whole past. Time to send 007 on a mission for sure. I'm not familiar with the writer's work, maybe I'll have to watch some of the movies and get a feel for his scripts. Uncharted territory. Danger! haha

zaphod99

Matt S wrote:

Justsomeguy wrote:

Has anyone put any thought into what the incredibly short shooting schedule will have in terms of the plot of Bond 25? Less than a year of shooting to premier. The only thing I can think of is that we are in for a very stripped down, minimal Bond outing. Thoughts?

Nothing short about it for Bond. This is completely normal.

When I spoke with him recently and pressed the 'timeline issue' he said and I quote "is fine we have plenty of time" he seemed genuinely confident and very relaxed about it. His current film is bang on schedule and anyone that can pull off the Olympics opening ceremony on time, on budget and with such great elan can surely do this. Very optimistic about it. If it is a stopped down Bond I'm all for that. He also seemed very pleased with how the script was progressing. Now it's official I hope next time to gain some more info and yes TP I will be an extra on the current movie Beach gig scene. He has also agreed to be a Patron of my local Theatre who sponsor Mrs. Zaphod's radio show so I'm hopeful of an 'in'

Keep you posted of course my chums.

Thunderpussy

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Nice to know he seems very relaxed, hopefully
Everything is in place and we get a great Bond
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zaphod99

Thunderpussy wrote:

{[] I hope you get a good position, in the movie.
Nice to know he seems very relaxed, hopefully
Everything is in place and we get a great Bond
Film. -{

I'll probably try and hide as much as a 6ft4 person can

Matt S

A friend of mine thought that the film had to be pushed back when they said they're starting filming in December. He couldn't believe they could put a Bond film together that quickly. So I told him this is how they always do it, and he didn't believe it. He thought that Bond films were released every three or four years because they spend that time working on the films. I think that must be where people are confused. It seems that people have forgotten that this is following the typical schedule for Bond, and that when there's more time between Bond films it doesn't mean that more time was spend crafting the film.

Gala Brand

Matt S wrote:

Justsomeguy wrote:

Has anyone put any thought into what the incredibly short shooting schedule will have in terms of the plot of Bond 25? Less than a year of shooting to premier. The only thing I can think of is that we are in for a very stripped down, minimal Bond outing. Thoughts?

Nothing short about it for Bond. This is completely normal.

Yeah, but it's not normal to have the director making two films simultaneously. When Boyle finishes shooting Bond 25, he'll have to do post-production on the other film, which will take a couple of months. Then he has to do post production on Bond 25, which will take at least three months. So filming of Bond 25 will have to be finished by early May, which is about two months earlier than usual.

Arbogast 777

Gala Brand wrote:

Yeah, but it's not normal to have the director making two films simultaneously. When Boyle finishes shooting Bond 25, he'll have to do post-production on the other film, which will take a couple of months.

Alright, I’ll bite...

If he’s been shooting the comedy for awhile now how do you know he won’t have post-production of that wrapped up by the time he starts Bond 25?

Arbogast 777

In order to put the whole “this is an unusually rushed production” issue to rest for good, I did a little digging.

It will actually be the 2nd earliest start of the Craig era...

Casino Royale Jan 3
Quantum of Solace Jan 3
Skyfall Nov 11
Spectre Dec 8
Bond 25 Dec 4

Barbel

Gala Brand wrote:

Yeah, but it's not normal to have the director making two films simultaneously. When Boyle finishes shooting Bond 25, he'll have to do post-production on the other film, which will take a couple of months.

I'm going from memory here, but I think Michael Apted was doing post-production on a documentary while shooting TWINE.

BIG TAM

Barbel wrote:

Gala Brand wrote:

Yeah, but it's not normal to have the director making two films simultaneously. When Boyle finishes shooting Bond 25, he'll have to do post-production on the other film, which will take a couple of months.

I'm going from memory here, but I think Michael Apted was doing post-production on a documentary while shooting TWINE.

And Steven Spielberg was overseeing post-production work on JURASSIC PARK at night whilst shooting SCHINDLER'S LIST during the day. And those two didn't turn out too bad.

zaphod99

Matt S wrote:

A friend of mine thought that the film had to be pushed back when they said they're starting filming in December. He couldn't believe they could put a Bond film together that quickly. So I told him this is how they always do it, and he didn't believe it. He thought that Bond films were released every three or four years because they spend that time working on the films. I think that must be where people are confused. It seems that people have forgotten that this is following the typical schedule for Bond, and that when there's more time between Bond films it doesn't mean that more time was spend crafting the film.

I have a friend who runs post production and she thought I was smoking Hungarian woodbine when I told her the process/schedule. She believed it was not possible and apologised when she became aware that it's the standard practice for Bond.

Matt S

Gala Brand wrote:

So filming of Bond 25 will have to be finished by early May, which is about two months earlier than usual.

If they have a schedule similar to Skyfall, they will finish it by then. Principle photography on Quantum of Solace didn't take much longer than that. What they're aiming for shouldn't be a problem when comparing it to past Bonds.

Gala Brand

Barbel wrote:

Gala Brand wrote:

Yeah, but it's not normal to have the director making two films simultaneously. When Boyle finishes shooting Bond 25, he'll have to do post-production on the other film, which will take a couple of months.

I'm going from memory here, but I think Michael Apted was doing post-production on a documentary while shooting TWINE.

TWINE was 20 minutes shorter than, for example Spectre. That saves at least a month in shooting time right there, not to mention a couple of weeks of post-production. Make Bond 25 in 120 minutes, use fewer locations, make almost all the locations in Europe, have fewer and/or shorter action set pieces and you could complete production in five months (actually closer to four months because there's never any shooting between about December 15 and January 10).

If the writing is sharp and the acting and directing is first-rate I might really enjoy that movie, but I'm not sure about the general public which is used to 21/2 hour bloated action films stuffed with car chases and gun fights.

The point is, there isn't going to be a seven-month shoot.

Dutchfinger

Starting production from december/ january never seemed to have been a problem with the Bond films, just as long as they have a proper finished screenplay/ script when they are doing so! We all saw how that wasn't the case with Quantum, and though opinions vary, I think it defenitely shows in it's quality. I do know the writers strike was a major factor in that of course. If i'm not mistaken, Forster and Craig ended up having to write parts of the script while shooting. The thoughts of that ever happening alone already make me nervous. I just hope we'll get something great again! A 4 year gap is just so long

Gala Brand

Matt S wrote:

Gala Brand wrote:

So filming of Bond 25 will have to be finished by early May, which is about two months earlier than usual.

If they have a schedule similar to Skyfall, they will finish it by then. Principle photography on Quantum of Solace didn't take much longer than that. What they're aiming for shouldn't be a problem when comparing it to past Bonds.

Shooting on Skyfall started on November 7, 2011 and wrapped on May 25, 2012.

Gala Brand

BIG TAM wrote:

Barbel wrote:

Gala Brand wrote:

Yeah, but it's not normal to have the director making two films simultaneously. When Boyle finishes shooting Bond 25, he'll have to do post-production on the other film, which will take a couple of months.

I'm going from memory here, but I think Michael Apted was doing post-production on a documentary while shooting TWINE.

And Steven Spielberg was overseeing post-production work on JURASSIC PARK at night whilst shooting SCHINDLER'S LIST during the day. And those two didn't turn out too bad.

George Lucas (one of the producers) oversaw post-production for Jurassic Park. I dunno, maybe George would be available to do post-production on Boyle's Beatles movie.

https://www.jurassicworlduniverse.com/jurassic-park/trivia/

Matt S

Gala Brand wrote:

Matt S wrote:

Gala Brand wrote:

So filming of Bond 25 will have to be finished by early May, which is about two months earlier than usual.

If they have a schedule similar to Skyfall, they will finish it by then. Principle photography on Quantum of Solace didn't take much longer than that. What they're aiming for shouldn't be a problem when comparing it to past Bonds.

Shooting on Skyfall started on November 7, 2011 and wrapped on May 25, 2012.

My mistake.

It sounds like we really just need a shorter movie without the bloat that Spectre had. Something more like Goldfinger would be great. I've never watched that and felt cheated for it being under 2 hours.

caractacus potts

Gala Brand wrote:

Make Bond 25 in 120 minutes, use fewer locations, make almost all the locations in Europe, have fewer and/or shorter action set pieces and you could complete production in five months.

please don't ask them to do less location work! less bloated action setpieces and more plot and dialog I would very much like (and most of Boyle's films I've seen have that going for them). but action setpieces that actually show off real locations would make me happy too.
just saw Hitman's Bodyguard, a mostly mediocre oddball buddy pic, but damn did they ever work those Amsterdam locations in the third quarter.
Bond is meant to be a world-traveler, so yes please, action or talk, give us lots of juicy locations to look at.

caractacus potts

Thunderpussy wrote:

I hope you get a good position, in the movie.

zaphod99 wrote:

I'll probably try and hide as much as a 6ft4 person can

Are you going to get a cameo?
Ask if you can be the guy who doublechecks his bottle after the zany chase scene rolls by, we haven't seen that character in while.

Gala Brand

caractacus potts wrote:

Gala Brand wrote:

Make Bond 25 in 120 minutes, use fewer locations, make almost all the locations in Europe, have fewer and/or shorter action set pieces and you could complete production in five months.

please don't ask them to do less location work! less bloated action setpieces and more plot and dialog I would very much like (and most of Boyle's films I've seen have that going for them). but action setpieces that actually show off real locations would make me happy too.
just saw Hitman's Bodyguard, a mostly mediocre oddball buddy pic, but damn did they ever work those Amsterdam locations in the third quarter.
Bond is meant to be a world-traveler, so yes please, action or talk, give us lots of juicy locations to look at.

Connery never left the UK during the shooting of GF except for 1-2 weeks in Switzerland, yet 60% of the movie appears to occur in the US. Craig never went to China or Macau in Skyfall.

Arbogast 777

Gala Brand wrote:

George Lucas (one of the producers) oversaw post-production for Jurassic Park. I dunno, maybe George would be available to do post-production on Boyle's Beatles movie.

Boyle is making it with director Richard Curtis, so I’m sure he’ll help in the same way...

Matt S

Why are people even questioning this? Are we thinking that Boyle hasn't realised he's working on two films and is going to forget that he committed to Bond 25 and not show up to work? Is Boyle going to have an "oh sh!t" moment and discover that he has too much on his plate and cancel Bond 25? There's too much money already involved for that to happen. Everyone has been freaking out about this film for a long time now, and for no good reason. Now that we finally got the news we've waiting to hear for 2 years (at the usual time we would get this news), people are still making up problems. So far, everything has been going just fine. Most of the rumours that has been published over the past few years have been confirmed to not be true.

Gala Brand

I'm looking forward to Bond 25. I just think people need to get used to the fact that it may be different than what they're used to. Which could be a good thing.

Shatterfang

they can't keep making the films longer yet cramming less into them. Quantum had way more plot and action than Spectre. Spectre had 5 acts and a subplot that wasted time trying to give M something to do. Madeleine White goes from hate to love in 20 minutes. they could've saved much character development by having Bond kill Mr. White in the prologue, have him attend the funeral where he meets a mourning Madeleine. Delete Austria all together. Mr. Hinx was the best part of the movie, but they didn't have time to give him anything to do. the whole movie is a chase between Hinx and Bond, when Hinx just wanted to bring Bond [i asume alive on Blofeld's orders] directly to where Bond inevitably is trying to get to in the first place. In comparison Jaws kills a lot of innocents and not-so-innocents along the way, but Spectre didn't have time for that. The thumb tacks are introduced as a neat little quirk to rival Jaws' teeth, but they are never used again. They breezed through a great evil lair where they could've had a 20+ minute warzone finale. Instead of Bond being caught in the middle between the orange coats and the black coats and give him something to do like save the girl and deactivate the nuclear missile, he is an immortal terminator that guns down every spectre agent in less than 20 seconds. All this to get to that awful 2nd 3rd act. [hint, it was the plot to TSWLM, only slower]

HowardB

Gala Brand wrote:

TWINE was 20 minutes shorter than, for example Spectre. That saves at least a month in shooting time right there, not to mention a couple of weeks of post-production. Make Bond 25 in 120 minutes, use fewer locations, make almost all the locations in Europe, have fewer and/or shorter action set pieces and you could complete production in five months (actually closer to four months because there's never any shooting between about December 15 and January 10).

If the writing is sharp and the acting and directing is first-rate I might really enjoy that movie, but I'm not sure about the general public which is used to 21/2 hour bloated action films stuffed with car chases and gun fights.

The point is, there isn't going to be a seven-month shoot.

How much footage is shot isn't always reflective of the final running time. Some directors work more efficiently and require less takes to get a scene to their liking. Clint Eastwood is an example of a director who works very efficiently and doesn't need multiple takes. I don't know about Danny Boyle. Having a complete, well written script also doesn't hurt either. Goldfinger, considered the first "epic" Bond film packed a lot into its 110 minutes. We just keep going from one set of "fears" to creating a new set when the old fears are put to rest. Things are falling into place as opposed to the sky is falling. Remember the Skyfall fretting:"Bond has a beard and looks terrible" and "they're using fake locations, it's going to look crappy" how did that turn out?