Does anyone know the mill that sourced TF the Mexico City suit fabric?

frommeyer

I'm trying to find the mill and fabric Tom Ford used for the Mexico City suit. Is that a propriety to TF fabric or can we hunt that down from the source mill? I have the suit but I think I'd like the option of making it a three piece. I know the fabrics won't be an exact match due to different bolts but I don't mind too much - it's a new suit and the difference probably won't be too dramatic.

I haven't called TF to ask about a custom vest. But I suspect it'd be more than I'd like to pay for a vest (more than $600).

TroyIkeda

I don't think the fabric is still available for MTM. I had a MTM vest made from TF to turn one of mine into a 3 piece. It was about $1200 for the vest. So, definitely very pricey...especially for a simple vest. I have a contact at TF who is familiar with the Bond pieces. If you want his info, let me know. He'd know where to direct you.

McQueen

I'm fairly certain that it was Vitale Barberis Canonico Super 150 range

Matt S

McQueen wrote:

I'm fairly certain that it was Vitale Barberis Canonico Super 150 range

Are you just assuming it was VBC because Oliver Wicks sells a suit in a very similar cloth? VBC makes a similar cloth, as do other mills. Similar is not going to cut it. The Tom Ford buy book didn't specify an S number like it did for other suits, so it's likely not even a Super wool.

frommeyer

I found this from a VBC seller:




It's certainly close but the houndstooth size seems wrong as does the pattern of the panes. But I'm not sure. TroyIkeda, I'd love the contact info. Seems better than spinning wheels with speculation.

Matt S

frommeyer wrote:

I found this from a VBC seller:




It's certainly close but the houndstooth size seems wrong as does the pattern of the panes. But I'm not sure. TroyIkeda, I'd love the contact info. Seems better than spinning wheels with speculation.

That's the one that Oliver Wicks has. The houndstooth here has a repeat of 17 instead of 13. The overcheck here is a triple stripe while it's a single solid stripe on the Tom Ford.

TroyIkeda

frommeyer wrote:

I found this from a VBC seller:




It's certainly close but the houndstooth size seems wrong as does the pattern of the panes. But I'm not sure. TroyIkeda, I'd love the contact info. Seems better than spinning wheels with speculation.

Absolutely. His name is Roberto and he works at TF Beverly Hills. Great guy to work with and very knowledgeable. His email is rg@tomfordinternational.com
Tell him Troy referred you. He'll be able to get you all the info on fabric, MTM, pricing etc.... -{

always shaken

I have a friend on good authority he works on the Row he says it's made by Scabal ,he says they have supplied other fabrics to TF for Bond films , I have no reason to doubt him . I will next time I run into him in some west end watering hole get a pattern piece sent to me , so watch this space guys

frommeyer

So I just heard back from Roberto at Tom Ford. A few things. 1) the fabric is indeed propriety and exclusive to Tom Ford, 2) surprisingly, the mill that provides the Mexico City suit is Zegna (this surprises me as someone whose entire closet is mainline Zegna suits; I've not seen them offer a fabric even resembling this one), 3) there is still fabric remaining for additional MTM items. But I'm still still pretty sure I'm not paying $1200 for just a vest. And a matching bandana for my dog certainly won't be happening.

Lastly. VBC seems to be flirting with an infringement, imo. Not my area of law though.

Matt S

frommeyer wrote:

Lastly. VBC seems to be flirting with an infringement, imo. Not my area of law though.

It's a classic Prince of Wales check, just in blue instead of the more typical grey or brown. I usually see it in blue in a finer scale with a more subtle overcheck. Tom Ford didn't come up with the design.

And as for Zegna, their factory makes the Tom Ford suits (which are nothing like Zegna suits), so it makes complete sense that the Zegna mills make Tom Ford suitings as well. You wouldn't see Zegna offering this fabric because it's exclusive to Tom Ford, and they tend towards more original patterns whilst Tom Ford's cloths follow classic English style.

frommeyer

Matt S wrote:

Tom Ford suits (which are nothing like Zegna suits)

Well they both have buttons. They have that in common.