Trying to scratch an itch on my wrist....

With a grail being a Rolex and my Explorer vs. Submariner debate (and of course SWMBO has a liking for a Datejust too) I was eyeing the Orient Mako II as a holdover as it has both characteristics of the Exporer and the Sub plus the Omega PO.


Until I saw this....the Orient Sentinel
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It's like my other grail, the Aqua Terra and the Explorer produced an offspring.

Still have my eye on the Mako as well.....although would probably pop that one on a strap
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Decisions, decisions.... anyone with experience with any of these?

Comments

  • UNCLE27UNCLE27 EnglandPosts: 1,144MI6 Agent
    Never heard of them.
    If you want a good quality automatic to hold you over until you can get your Submariner (or Explorer), take a look at Steinhart...
    https://www.steinhartwatches.de/en/?___from_store=de
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    This might not be what you want to hear but until you get the watch you really want there is little use in buying "look-a-likes". Better to wear a simple Seiko (or comparable) that has it's own look and feel and save up for that grail watch. I know people who have spent a lot of money on placeholders that could have been put to use to save toward the watch they actually wanted.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • canoe2canoe2 Posts: 2,007MI6 Agent
    In the U.S. at least, Orient has a good reputation for producing affordable, relatively well made automatics with attractive designs. I've never owned one, but know plenty of guys who do and they've been happy. The Mako series is especially popular as an entry level dive watch. I have heard of issues with the crystal scratching easily (not sure what material Orient is using). I think as long as you go into the purchase with the right expectations (obviously this ain't a Rolex or Omega), you should be satisfied. Hope that helps!
  • CB0012CB0012 Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    Peppermill wrote:
    This might not be what you want to hear but until you get the watch you really want there is little use in buying "look-a-likes". Better to wear a simple Seiko (or comparable) that has it's own look and feel and save up for that grail watch. I know people who have spent a lot of money on placeholders that could have been put to use to save toward the watch they actually wanted.

    I hear you there. I'm aiming more towards getting my wife hers as she's never flipped over a watch like the one she saw and with our 10 year anniversary next year I'll be happy to put my grails on hold to get her something.
    canoe2 wrote:
    In the U.S. at least, Orient has a good reputation for producing affordable, relatively well made automatics with attractive designs. I've never owned one, but know plenty of guys who do and they've been happy. The Mako series is especially popular as an entry level dive watch. I have heard of issues with the crystal scratching easily (not sure what material Orient is using). I think as long as you go into the purchase with the right expectations (obviously this ain't a Rolex or Omega), you should be satisfied. Hope that helps!

    -{ Many thanks!
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
    I totally agree with pepper mill , it's much better to get the best of a cheaper watch , than waste your hard earned bucks on something that's a division 4 version of your premiership league model , I'm sure our esteemed and much respected member Thunderpussey purchased a Roger Moore era Seiko for under £30 , ping him a message I'm sure he will point you in the right direction
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    Westward_drift, posted about a deal for a Casio. Known to
    Many as the "Casio Royale" it's not a copy but very similar
    To the watch Roger had in Octopussy, but it's only about
    £15, or so. A great little watch, no real Bond connection but
    I enjoy wearing it, and it looks very Retro, I've had a few
    Compliments about it looking " old school " :)
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • PeppermillPeppermill DelftPosts: 2,860MI6 Agent
    https://youtu.be/RjjAt8-QoUA
    A nice review on the Casio Royale.
    1. Ohmss 2. Frwl 3. Op 4. Tswlm 5. Tld 6. Ge 7. Yolt 8. Lald 9. Cr 10. Ltk 11. Dn 12. Gf 13. Qos 14. Mr 15. Tmwtgg 16. Fyeo 17. Twine 18. Sf 19. Tb 20 Tnd 21. Spectre 22 Daf 23. Avtak 24. Dad
  • Miles MesservyMiles Messervy Posts: 1,774MI6 Agent
    +1 for a Seiko. The much-lauded SKX007 can still be had brand new for sub-300 prices. I’d go that route before buying an Orient or Steinhart sub knockoff.
  • frommeyerfrommeyer ChicagoPosts: 418MI6 Agent
    Peppermill wrote:
    This might not be what you want to hear but until you get the watch you really want there is little use in buying "look-a-likes". Better to wear a simple Seiko (or comparable) that has it's own look and feel and save up for that grail watch. I know people who have spent a lot of money on placeholders that could have been put to use to save toward the watch they actually wanted.

    This all day. If you end up with two or three $350 homage watches you're gonna look down unhappily and realize that that's a quarter of the way to the real thing. The only reason to pursue an homage is because you actually love the homage watch or you want one to wear as a beater. I'm only considering a Steinhart because I go to the beach a lot with my dog and I'm getting worried about all the sand scratching my Omega SMP.
  • CheverianCheverian Posts: 1,456MI6 Agent
    I generally agree with the suggestion that it's better to save for a grail watch, especially if "making due" means buying a couple of $500 USD placeholders in the interim. I learned that lesson the hard way before finally buying my Planet Ocean and Seamaster Professional.

    That said, if you lead an active life, you need a beater watch. The Orient Mako II and Seiko SKX007 are both inexpensive, well-built timepieces that you can wear to the beach, on the trails, in dive bars, etc. God bless the guys who wear their $6,000 Rolex Subs snorkeling. It's their money to risk. But my Casio Frogman does the job fine, thank you.

    Steinhart makes good products, too, but the company seems to suffer among watch people for having gotten its start creating look-alikes of famous Rolexes, IWCs, etc. Too bad because some of Steinhart's original designs are quite nice these days. But I think you're better off avoiding midrange watches, at least as far as Bond homages are concerned.

    The most important thing I'd add is that a watch needs to please you. I am happily wearing my Seamaster Professional on my wrist at this moment, but my Seiko and I have been through some great adventures together, and it's never let me down.
  • always shakenalways shaken LondonPosts: 6,287MI6 Agent
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    I think this is Roger Moore era watch Thunderpussy purchased they have them in Argos
    By the way, did I tell you, I was "Mad"?
  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
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    I think this is Roger Moore era watch Thunderpussy purchased they have them in Argos

    So you are saying that a 1983 era watch is selling in 2018 or do you mean slightly similar ?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy Behind you !Posts: 63,792MI6 Agent
    It's similar to the OP Seiko, not a copy. Although for a cheap watch it
    Is very well speced ... 5 alarms, stopwatch, timer, 100m water proof.
    Also you wouldn't believe the gadgets it hides .........
    ( in my imagination at least ) :))
    "I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
  • danjaq_0ffdanjaq_0ff The SwampsPosts: 7,283MI6 Agent
    It's similar to the OP Seiko, not a copy. Although for a cheap watch it
    Is very well speced ... 5 alarms, stopwatch, timer, 100m water proof.
    Also you wouldn't believe the gadgets it hides .........
    ( in my imagination at least ) :))

    Looks good for a look a like -{
  • UNCLE27UNCLE27 EnglandPosts: 1,144MI6 Agent
    I had one of those Casios for a while but gave it away as didn’t really use it. It was a cool little watch though and certainly has the retro vibe.

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  • frommeyerfrommeyer ChicagoPosts: 418MI6 Agent
    The only Moore digital watch I still don't have is the Octopussy Sports 100. But I've bought two or three of the G575 siblings from the era. Dropped maybe a total of $250 on 'em. All while this wonderful Casio Royale was out there unbeknownst to me. I ordered one from Amazon yesterday because of this thread. It just arrived and I gotta say I *really* like this little thing. I prefer it to the from-the-era Seiko G575s.

    Though it still baffles me as to why Seiko wouldn't go for the easy cash grab and re-release a 1:1 copy of the Sports 100. They came close with the Metal Gear watch. But it's not the same.
  • CB0012CB0012 Posts: 110MI6 Agent
    Just pulled the trigger on an ebay score of a SKX007. This had been on my wish list too for some time but never came about but it appears this was at the right place at the right time.

    Gentlemen all of your advice has been greatly appreciated -{
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