The pictures of Lashana Lynch in Bond's Jamaica house (https://twitter.com/007dossier/status/1127977554298724353) has really thrown my ideas of the sequence of events in Bond25 out of whack. I was expecting Bond to start in Jamaica, join Leiter on the mission and for Lashana to turn up later.
One wonders now, how do they get back to Jamaica in the story after apparently wrapping in Jamaica after only two weeks (https://twitter.com/Bond25Film/status/1126854005722898432) filming; which would actually match a period of time in the film after the PTS and before the end of act one. The Jamaican hurricane season is from the start of June to the end of November, so it would seem that that is that for Jamaica. And now we know they're returning to Norway (for Austria?) from 5-14 June for the helicopter filming that we had been aware of before the frozen lake filming took place (https://twitter.com/Bond25Film/status/1128323681724391424). Only a week sounds like 2nd unit stunt work.
Will we see them return to Norway repeatedly? If this shoot is 7 months long, like previous DC Bond movies, they have until the end of November, another 6 months 10 days, before they finish. I think when we get these location filming durations they are what EON has told local authorities and they are just giving themselves plenty of time when they make the permit applications, so I am not so bothered that they only spent two weeks in Jamaica, and not the full three. They also spent less time in Norway back in March than was originally reported in the local media.
It's been reported that the Matera, Italy (for North Africa?) is from 17 August to 23 September, 39 days (https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/dates-for-shooting-in-italy-confirmed-by-local-press-190407), but I am guessing that that is longer than they will actually shoot. We know they are about to start interiors (Pinewood) filming. Is that really going to last 2 months and 28 days (89 days) until 17 August? And what filming will they do after 23 September, with potentially another eight weeks of filming left?
Let's say Pinewood filming is from this weekend till the 5 June restart in Norway, that's two and a half weeks, which is longer than any filming at any location so far. Then a week back in Norway and then what from 15 June to 17 August? Two months, for more Pinewood filming? More Norway? Filming in London proper, not Pinewood? Then there is the two months after Italy. Four months of filming, more than half the film yet they have already covered all the known filming locations. It doesn't seem like enough.
So far Bond25's locations seem to be, London, Jamaica (for Jamaica and Cuba or sub-Saharan Africa?), Norway (for Austria?), Matera (for Italy and North Africa?) six film locations, London, Jamaica, Cuba, Italy, North Africa, Austria. IMHO I don't think Norway is Norway in the film. That would be enough, six. Spectre had five and Skyfall, six or seven, if you include Bond's beach getaway after he is shot. Despite the Hurricane season, I can only imagine they will return to Jamaica.
...And now we know they're returning to Norway (for Austria?) from 5-14 June for the helicopter filming that we had been aware of before the frozen lake filming took place (https://twitter.com/Bond25Film/status/1128323681724391424)...
Wow, that would be a fantastic location for a nice car chase!
It would also be great for a plane or helicopter chase (could imagine swooping under that raised part of the road/bridge and throughout those mountains in the background) but after the aircraft stuff in QOS and SP they probably won't go for it again...and MI Fallout had that heli chase as well.
I'm of course very happy to hear there will be more filming in Norway. The inclusion of the Atlantic Sea Road is certainly not a stand-in for Austria. While the Atlantic Sea Road is confirmed, Rauma is still just a rumour. Rauma (a municipality) sounds like a wonderful choise. It's also not very far from I live, about three hours by car.
The area includes:
Filming at the Atlantic Sea Road will almost require filming from helicopters, it looks like the helicopters won't be onscreen. The helicopter company will use two helicopters, one for the camera and one for transport and backup. the filmig will include flying at high speeds and at low altitudes.
Those locations are all incredible and worthy of a Bond movie. Really hope they give Norway the credit it is due, rather than just have it doubling up for Austria
I still long to see Bond return to some mountaineering, either in his spare time or part of a mission. Maybe next time..
I'm of course very happy to hear there will be more filming in Norway. The inclusion of the Atlantic Sea Road is certainly not a stand-in for Austria. While the Atlantic Sea Road is confirmed, Rauma is still just a rumour. Rauma (a municipality) sounds like a wonderful choise. It's also not very far from I live, about three hours by car.
The area includes:
Could definitely imagine a car chase on there in poor weather with waves crashing over the road and the cars speeding though them. Probably nearly impossible to time that right on film though.
It's possible to time, but then you need to have the cars, drivers and film teams on standby for weeks or even months. As long as the skies are fairly clear the Bond team has to shoot since they have littel more than a week. an interesting solution can be to shoot it at night, since summer nights are fairly bright.
My guess is, and why I thought Norway might be doubling for Austria later in the film, after the first act, is that it occurred to me that maybe there is something at the house/Scandinavian villa we see in Madeleine's flashback/dream that is needed to find or foil the villain. That way, we learn more about Madeleine. With 13 characters and Bond apparently going on a mission with Leiter and a kidnapped scientist etc, one wonders how you can shoe horn in a good character arc for Madeleine.
I still think Q could be the kidnapped scientist and if Q is to have more interaction with Bond, then that would make sense. I can't really see how you could include Q's cats, maybe Moneypenny will be looking after them in the office?
And after those new Jamaican Bond house pictures, is it actually Lashana, an MI6 agent, who persuades Bond to leave his cosy Jamaican existence to find his pal Q? Do they encounter Leiter and Magnussen's CIA agent during the mission, in Cuba?
But, what does make me question the Japanese article (apart from the terrible Google translation) is the claim that the story is independent and new. With Madeleine Swann in it?! And we've seen pics of a (young?) 'Rami Malek' with a rifle used by Spectre in Spectre in the March Norway filming, so there is as much connective tissue between Spectre and Bond25 as there was between Casino and Quantum. I remain to be convinced anything in the Japanese article is true.
I never believed for a second that Norway was only going to be used for 10 minutes on screen (or whatever increment of time the the highly scientific cost/screentime calcualtions produced )
I’ve always wanted to visit Norway, and I’m excited it will probably get it’s due to this film.
I think it's likely the frozen lake scene and the Atlantic sea Road are in separate parts of the movie and plot, simply because of the weather. Filming on the Atlantic Sea Road in June will only show a bit of snow on the distant mountain tops. Obvious, but it had to be said, I guess.
This is exactly the location I‘d want to see a car chase with Bond driving through the fountains of water whipping against and covering the road during an epic mega-storm...
Absolutely, filming a storm scene on that bit of road would be fantastic. But it will take wind canons, CGI and al sorts of trickery to create a storm. They're not gambling on a storm happening just when they're filming.
I think the story about filming in Rauma is true. The frozen lake and the Atlantic Sea Road (ASR?) are not in the same sequence of scenes, and there has to be some scenes to go with what they shoot on the ASR. Rauma is in the same region as the road and has some of the best locations on the whole coastline. It makes sense.
I never believed for a second that Norway was only going to be used for 10 minutes on screen (or whatever increment of time the the highly scientific cost/screentime calcualtions produced )
Indeed, highly scientific...
It is true that interior dialogue scenes can be filmed more quickly than location stunt sequences, so it is a bit of an average.
Stephan Chang of the Jamaica Promotions Corporation (JAMPRO) explained to The Gleaner that the workers on the movie set are basically grouped according to the requirements of the job. “There are several layers of jobs on set. Working on the actual production side are the lighting, sound and rigging crew. we have persons operating cameras, and there are also extras on set,” he outlined, debunking claims that Jamaicans have been given only menial jobs.
While it was revealed that extras were needed for a party scene, Chang was unable to say if any big-name Jamaican actors had landed a role in the movie.
I have to admit I don't have the link since I'm not a part of the social media thing. Do you have a link?
I'm not sure the real DC has been in Norway before, only the fake one
I have to admit I don't have the link since I'm not a part of the socaial media thing. Do you have a link?
I'm not sure the real DC has been in Norway before, only the fake one
Hang on will find a link. Some debate wether Norway or Scotland. Maybe you can confirm!
I can't say by looking at the landscape, but perhaps the weather is a clue. The text says "Saturday scouts". Most of the country didn't have rain today, and Rauma definately didn't. It looks like Scotland had more rain.
For me, it just adds more to the confusion about what role Madeleine will have. Fukunaga's comments about wanting to know more about Madeleine and Lea Seydoux's comments about her character not being a sex object in the film and it being an emotional role and story, I'm wondering if Madeleine will be seen briefly in flashback to be able incorporate that into an entirely different, kidnapped scientist story, but how do you explain the Norway filming with the Lea-look-a-likey in 1980s clothing?
Or, are they going to portray Bond as a philanderer, who after a while, needs other women. Or are we going to get jokes about how he was only doing Paloma for the information? But, then, Paloma is supposedly a character created by Phoebe Waller-Bridge and she's supposed to be leading this #metoo charge in the Bond universe, so, I'm thoroughly confused about where this plot and its themes is heading.
Is this why people are reporting a shitshow of a script, because the story is all over the place? What I can't understand is how they have so many characters, and how they can expect to do justice to their character arcs in 2h 20mins.
This is pure speculation by me, but maybe Madeleine dies in the PTS and they try to do a OHMSS type thing. As far as I know Lea Seydoux wasn't filming in Jamaica. So maybe the PTS is about her death somewhere else, almost immediately after the end of SPECTRE. Then opening credits. And a "5 years later" Bond in Jamaica.
Just because Seydoux was part of the big press event doesn't mean she'll have a big role. Monica Bellucci was in all the SP photos and she was on screen for what? 7 minutes total?
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One wonders now, how do they get back to Jamaica in the story after apparently wrapping in Jamaica after only two weeks (https://twitter.com/Bond25Film/status/1126854005722898432) filming; which would actually match a period of time in the film after the PTS and before the end of act one. The Jamaican hurricane season is from the start of June to the end of November, so it would seem that that is that for Jamaica. And now we know they're returning to Norway (for Austria?) from 5-14 June for the helicopter filming that we had been aware of before the frozen lake filming took place (https://twitter.com/Bond25Film/status/1128323681724391424). Only a week sounds like 2nd unit stunt work.
Will we see them return to Norway repeatedly? If this shoot is 7 months long, like previous DC Bond movies, they have until the end of November, another 6 months 10 days, before they finish. I think when we get these location filming durations they are what EON has told local authorities and they are just giving themselves plenty of time when they make the permit applications, so I am not so bothered that they only spent two weeks in Jamaica, and not the full three. They also spent less time in Norway back in March than was originally reported in the local media.
It's been reported that the Matera, Italy (for North Africa?) is from 17 August to 23 September, 39 days (https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/dates-for-shooting-in-italy-confirmed-by-local-press-190407), but I am guessing that that is longer than they will actually shoot. We know they are about to start interiors (Pinewood) filming. Is that really going to last 2 months and 28 days (89 days) until 17 August? And what filming will they do after 23 September, with potentially another eight weeks of filming left?
Let's say Pinewood filming is from this weekend till the 5 June restart in Norway, that's two and a half weeks, which is longer than any filming at any location so far. Then a week back in Norway and then what from 15 June to 17 August? Two months, for more Pinewood filming? More Norway? Filming in London proper, not Pinewood? Then there is the two months after Italy. Four months of filming, more than half the film yet they have already covered all the known filming locations. It doesn't seem like enough.
So far Bond25's locations seem to be, London, Jamaica (for Jamaica and Cuba or sub-Saharan Africa?), Norway (for Austria?), Matera (for Italy and North Africa?) six film locations, London, Jamaica, Cuba, Italy, North Africa, Austria. IMHO I don't think Norway is Norway in the film. That would be enough, six. Spectre had five and Skyfall, six or seven, if you include Bond's beach getaway after he is shot. Despite the Hurricane season, I can only imagine they will return to Jamaica.
Wow, that would be a fantastic location for a nice car chase!
It would also be great for a plane or helicopter chase (could imagine swooping under that raised part of the road/bridge and throughout those mountains in the background) but after the aircraft stuff in QOS and SP they probably won't go for it again...and MI Fallout had that heli chase as well.
The area includes:
Trollstigen:
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Trollveggen: (nearly a thousand meters drop straight down, the longest straight cliffside in europe. Very popular among base-jumpers)
Cinematic landscape in general:
[img]https://trollveggen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/©-Anunatak_MG_1747-1150x610.jpg[/img]
I still long to see Bond return to some mountaineering, either in his spare time or part of a mission. Maybe next time..
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The train pic reminds me of the Skyfall PTS, though.
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Video of the road in bad weather: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=atlanticstrasse&&view=detail&mid=C40D0BBDC1015E7B4B3CC40D0BBDC1015E7B4B3C&&FORM=VRDGAR
Could definitely imagine a car chase on there in poor weather with waves crashing over the road and the cars speeding though them. Probably nearly impossible to time that right on film though.
https://youtu.be/tp9JZrCrrQY?t=101
I have questions about this Japanese info that has recently come to light.
https://www.cinematoday.jp/news/N0108580
https://twitter.com/JB007_news/status/1127396489565622273
Apparently Fukunaga has more to say about Madeleine Swann, and there will be more Q/Bond interaction and his cats and it will be an independent story.
My guess is, and why I thought Norway might be doubling for Austria later in the film, after the first act, is that it occurred to me that maybe there is something at the house/Scandinavian villa we see in Madeleine's flashback/dream that is needed to find or foil the villain. That way, we learn more about Madeleine. With 13 characters and Bond apparently going on a mission with Leiter and a kidnapped scientist etc, one wonders how you can shoe horn in a good character arc for Madeleine.
I still think Q could be the kidnapped scientist and if Q is to have more interaction with Bond, then that would make sense. I can't really see how you could include Q's cats, maybe Moneypenny will be looking after them in the office?
And after those new Jamaican Bond house pictures, is it actually Lashana, an MI6 agent, who persuades Bond to leave his cosy Jamaican existence to find his pal Q? Do they encounter Leiter and Magnussen's CIA agent during the mission, in Cuba?
But, what does make me question the Japanese article (apart from the terrible Google translation) is the claim that the story is independent and new. With Madeleine Swann in it?! And we've seen pics of a (young?) 'Rami Malek' with a rifle used by Spectre in Spectre in the March Norway filming, so there is as much connective tissue between Spectre and Bond25 as there was between Casino and Quantum. I remain to be convinced anything in the Japanese article is true.
I’ve always wanted to visit Norway, and I’m excited it will probably get it’s due to this film.
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I think the story about filming in Rauma is true. The frozen lake and the Atlantic Sea Road (ASR?) are not in the same sequence of scenes, and there has to be some scenes to go with what they shoot on the ASR. Rauma is in the same region as the road and has some of the best locations on the whole coastline. It makes sense.
Indeed, highly scientific...
It is true that interior dialogue scenes can be filmed more quickly than location stunt sequences, so it is a bit of an average.
Quantum filmed for almost 5 months (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830515/locations#filming_dates) and has a 1hr 40min run time giving a weekly filmed scenes increment average of 5.8 minutes. That is how amazingly scientific it is.
http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/entertainment/20190518/jamaicans-working-all-areas-bond-film
Stephan Chang of the Jamaica Promotions Corporation (JAMPRO) explained to The Gleaner that the workers on the movie set are basically grouped according to the requirements of the job. “There are several layers of jobs on set. Working on the actual production side are the lighting, sound and rigging crew. we have persons operating cameras, and there are also extras on set,” he outlined, debunking claims that Jamaicans have been given only menial jobs.
While it was revealed that extras were needed for a party scene, Chang was unable to say if any big-name Jamaican actors had landed a role in the movie.
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I'm not sure the real DC has been in Norway before, only the fake one
Hang on will find a link. Some debate wether Norway or Scotland. Maybe you can confirm!
Edit: https://www.instagram.com/p/BxmxNuDDEKH/?igshid=6y3b7ll1fnei
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7047405/Daniel-Craig-Ana-Armas-provided-intimacy-coordinator-James-Bond-25.html
For me, it just adds more to the confusion about what role Madeleine will have. Fukunaga's comments about wanting to know more about Madeleine and Lea Seydoux's comments about her character not being a sex object in the film and it being an emotional role and story, I'm wondering if Madeleine will be seen briefly in flashback to be able incorporate that into an entirely different, kidnapped scientist story, but how do you explain the Norway filming with the Lea-look-a-likey in 1980s clothing?
Or, are they going to portray Bond as a philanderer, who after a while, needs other women. Or are we going to get jokes about how he was only doing Paloma for the information? But, then, Paloma is supposedly a character created by Phoebe Waller-Bridge and she's supposed to be leading this #metoo charge in the Bond universe, so, I'm thoroughly confused about where this plot and its themes is heading.
Is this why people are reporting a shitshow of a script, because the story is all over the place? What I can't understand is how they have so many characters, and how they can expect to do justice to their character arcs in 2h 20mins.
Is she? Where's that been reported?
Oh, honestly.
Just because Seydoux was part of the big press event doesn't mean she'll have a big role. Monica Bellucci was in all the SP photos and she was on screen for what? 7 minutes total?