Im hoping instead they are reunited later in the film somehow
My money is on this. I’ll be very disappointed if they bring her back just to kill her off.
There’s also that picture from the sea road in Norway showing two stunt doubles with dots on their faces who could pass quite easily for Bond and Madeleine.
By 30 minutes we are with Bond in Jamaica seeing his life as a widower, spear fishing, on his yacht, etc.
At 45 minutes Bond is in Jamaica and he meets Lashana Lynch in a night club. At some point about now he should be meeting Leiter and Magnussen's CIA agent.
I think Jamaica will go as follows, I agree they will show Bond living his life as a widower and retired agent.
I then think that Lashana Lynch will be there working her own mission - perhaps even using 007 as her codename - but something goes wrong. CIA is also there but they need assistance and Bond is the only other asset in the region to help. That is what pulls him back into service.
Im hoping instead they are reunited later in the film somehow
My money is on this. I’ll be very disappointed if they bring her back just to kill her off.
Yes, I agree. It feels a bit easy.
But I wouldn't mind if she's apparently killed in the mooted DB5 action scene, and we and Bond both think she's dead, only for her to return later in the show. Just not in a Sean Bean sort of way!
Or maybe we even find out that Bond helped to fake her death (we think she's dead but we're not let in on Bond's plan)... yeah that'd be better.
PTS is Bond marrying Madeleine and then OHMSS like she is killed. I think the DB5 chase is this. Maybe we'll see some imaginative use of the original Goldfnger DB5 gadgets during the chase.
After the credits the film moves to Norway, maybe the scientist's family, as it can't be a Madeleine flashback if she was murdered in the PTS. We see the scientist's daughter running from Malek's villain. I can only imagine that the Madeleine look-a-like casting call was EON disinformation or just bullshit by that casting website. I assume that between the PTS and the film's move to Jamaica, Malek's villain gets hold of the genetic technology McGuffin that is so important.
By 30 minutes we are with Bond in Jamaica seeing his life as a widower, spear fishing, on his yacht, etc.
At 45 minutes Bond is in Jamaica and he meets Lashana Lynch in a night club. At some point about now he should be meeting Leiter and Magnussen's CIA agent.
At one hour 10 minutes Bond is in Cuba and this is probably the scientist rescue attempt that goes wrong. He'll meet Paloma in Cuba. I guess she gets killed quite quickly.
Bond returns to Whitehall and has the meeting with M between 1 hour 30 or 1 hour 40 minutes into the film and Lashana Lynch is with him. The Household cavalry, as their based in Whitehall, might have just been an establishing shot for Whitehall, and not the Mall for Buckingham palace.
And we now know that Bond goes to see Q with Moneypenny after the M meeting.
We know the Vantage Volante is Bond's car and so it must be him in Norway with the Range Rover chase. I assume that Q somehow helps and Bond goes to Norway on the trail of the scientist he fails to find in Cuba. Bond could be in Cuba by the one hour 50, 55 minute mark, and the final, 20-25 minute, third act will be in Norway, for a 2 hour 20 minute movie.
I must admit, this sounds accurate as to what we've seen and sounds like a terrific film and would be excellent! Excited to see the Matera filming as this will be a big PTS for the franchise if it plays out as expected above. The DB5 chase and use of the original gadgets would be great!
All in all a mouth watering film if it goes as per this prediction, i would be 1 happy fan -{
I do not think it's Bond driving. I think Someone else is driving in this scene, and Bond finds his car later in the film. One reason is the double take he does looking at it in Whitehall. I think it is new to him.
James Bond series has never done a flashback. The closest thing would be the Goldeneye pre-title sequence, but only if you consider the Living Daylights and Licence to Kill taking place after that 10 years ago scene- since it was originally written for Dalton. Otherwise everything is in chronological order. So I'm pretty sure the little girl is meant to be leverage to make the scientist cooperate, if she doesn't get hypothermia.
The closest equivalent to the first two scenes would by the FYEO opening followed by Melina Havelock's parents death. That should take 15 minutes max before we see Bond again. He seems very happy on vacation, especially when he smokes cigars and meets Nomi so I don't think Madeleine is dead yet, unless 5 years have passed and he is done mourning her But I don't think so. He is again way too happy at Whitehall when he does the DB V double take.
Jamaica should be over by the 30-35 minute mark. It is meant to serve as our M meeting. Paloma shouldn't die because she is kidnapped specifically because she knows how to make or operate the technology. Therefore Paloma is the Macguffin, not the technology. If Reason to Die is the title, it could be in reference to Paloma. Bond's mission should be specifically to kill her so she cannot aid Malek. This would be a great twist, seeing Bond play the anti-hero.
At the one hour mark, Paloma will tell Bond that she is willing to die in order to save the world, but they will kill her daughter so Bond has a change of heart.
Im hoping instead they are reunited later in the film somehow
My money is on this. I’ll be very disappointed if they bring her back just to kill her off.
There’s also that picture from the sea road in Norway showing two stunt doubles with dots on their faces who could pass quite easily for Bond and Madeleine.
But then Craig and Lea would at least be on set filming in Norway, so I think they are face-capturing someone else. They will drive it through Norway, then park it in Matera. Then James will commandeer it towards the end of the film.
Im hoping instead they are reunited later in the film somehow
My money is on this. I’ll be very disappointed if they bring her back just to kill her off.
Yes, I agree. It feels a bit easy.
But I wouldn't mind if she's apparently killed in the mooted DB5 action scene, and we and Bond both think she's dead, only for her to return later in the show. Just not in a Sean Bean sort of way!
Or maybe we even find out that Bond helped to fake her death (we think she's dead but we're not let in on Bond's plan)... yeah that'd be better.
I could get behind the misdirection of a fake death, although if Bond is in on it then it starts to feel a bit too much like Mission Impossible to me. But even that is preferable to her getting killed outright and Bond going on a revenge quest.
I don't think she's dead. The synopsis says "Bond's peace is short lived when Felix turns up." He is at peace, and as we can see in the photos he is fairly happy.
Barbara also said that, when we meet Bond he is in Jamaica, I think if we are to believe her, Jamaica introduces Bond and he will not be in the pre-title sequence. I retain my theory that it is not him and Madeleine in the Vantage.
But then Craig and Lea would at least be on set filming in Norway, so I think they are face-capturing someone else. They will drive it through Norway, then park it in Matera. Then James will commandeer it towards the end of the film.
Rami Malek says he already filmed a scene Norway without us having gotten wind of it.
Depending upon the details of the story, Pinewood can double for all kinds of locations. I remember visiting the "Nambutu Embassy" in the Bahamas and being shocked by how little was done there in terms of exteriors for CR.
Ultimately, while I get a kick out of Someone's deductive work in terms of connecting the locations and clapperboards to plot twists, I remind myself that we know very, very little. (Not to mention that reshoots are common after the completion of principal photography.)
But then Craig and Lea would at least be on set filming in Norway, so I think they are face-capturing someone else. They will drive it through Norway, then park it in Matera. Then James will commandeer it towards the end of the film.
Rami Malek says he already filmed a scene Norway without us having gotten wind of it.
Depending upon the details of the story, Pinewood can double for all kinds of locations. I remember visiting the "Nambutu Embassy" in the Bahamas and being shocked by how little was done there in terms of exteriors for CR.
Ultimately, while I get a kick out of Someone's deductive work in terms of connecting the locations and clapperboards to plot twists, I remind myself that we know very, very little. (Not to mention that reshoots are common after the completion of principal photography.)
I don't see how Daniel could secretly film in Norway. Even if Rami did it, he hasn't been globehopping like Daniel has and the paparazii have followed him every step of the way.
But then Craig and Lea would at least be on set filming in Norway, so I think they are face-capturing someone else. They will drive it through Norway, then park it in Matera. Then James will commandeer it towards the end of the film.
Rami Malek says he already filmed a scene Norway without us having gotten wind of it.
Depending upon the details of the story, Pinewood can double for all kinds of locations. I remember visiting the "Nambutu Embassy" in the Bahamas and being shocked by how little was done there in terms of exteriors for CR.
Ultimately, while I get a kick out of Someone's deductive work in terms of connecting the locations and clapperboards to plot twists, I remind myself that we know very, very little. (Not to mention that reshoots are common after the completion of principal photography.)
I don't see how Daniel could secretly film in Norway. Even if Rami did it, he hasn't been globehopping like Daniel has and the paparazii have followed him every step of the way.
He'll have been filming in plenty of places we haven't seen in the papers. I'm not convinced that Eon themselves don't have a hand in
these paparazii shots anyway (I'm not totally convinced those shots of Moneypenny in Waterloo weren't taken the week before they were released) so I imagine he slips away to a few places. Whether it's to a whole country, I don't know.
The second woman in the Atlantic road, Vantage filming could have been doubling for Paloma - who if connected to the villain may know of Norway despite being in Cuba.
If you see pictures of Lea and Ana together they are same height and about the same build, so any double for either of them could equally be for the other.
The second woman in the Atlantic road, Vantage filming could have been doubling for Paloma - who if connected to the villain may know of Norway despite being in Cuba.
If you see pictures of Lea and Ana together they are same height and about the same build, so any double for either of them could equally be for the other.
Depends where it fits into the timeline. Most people said Atlantic Road was the PTS where Madeleine dies, but if it is sandwiched Between Cuba and London, then it would make more sense that it is Bond and Paloma driving.
Can't bond have broken up with her then they cross paths again in Italy?
I'd much rather have this than an embittered Bond grieving for the death of a loved one and seeking revenge. We already had this and it was called DAF. No, wait, QoS.
Plus, I never bought the romance with Madeleine. It felt forced to me.
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I remember the shoot there years ago: I actually even saw the baggage car all strewn across the runway I should have got one of the 'CR' signs that were on the local signposts as a keepsake.
I do not think it's Bond driving. I think Someone else is driving in this scene, and Bond finds his car later in the film. One reason is the double take he does looking at it in Whitehall. I think it is new to him.
I do not think it's Bond driving. I think Someone else is driving in this scene, and Bond finds his car later in the film. One reason is the double take he does looking at it in Whitehall. I think it is new to him.
Yeah that's where they reported the sighting of the Aston the weekend before last, presumably when they shot this the same day as the Westminster stuff.
I do not think it's Bond driving. I think Someone else is driving in this scene, and Bond finds his car later in the film. One reason is the double take he does looking at it in Whitehall. I think it is new to him.
You can't see it there but when he gets out of the car, he walks a few paces, then turns around and smiles I assume at the car.
I was trying to work out if that Craig acting as Bond or whether he's looking at the director or AD to see whether he should go back. It could well be the car's introduction in the film I guess.
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You can't see it there but when he gets out of the car, he walks a few paces, then turns around and smiles I assume at the car.
I was trying to work out if that Craig acting as Bond or whether he's looking at the director or AD to see whether he should go back. It could well be the car's introduction in the film I guess.
Wheres the pic of Craig with the green Aston behind him? It was released about the same time as the video. I figured the "double take" was the photographer of that pic, out of frame of the film crew. I can't seem to find the picture right now.
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You can't see it there but when he gets out of the car, he walks a few paces, then turns around and smiles I assume at the car.
I was trying to work out if that Craig acting as Bond or whether he's looking at the director or AD to see whether he should go back. It could well be the car's introduction in the film I guess.
Wheres the pic of Craig with the green Aston behind him? It was released about the same time as the video. I figured the "double take" was the photographer of that pic, out of frame of the film crew. I can't seem to find the picture right now.
There is a video shot from afar of them filming that scene, where Craig walks a few steps, then cut and reset are called over loud speaker. He turns and walks back to the car. Could that be what you saw?
My guess at Bond25's plot at the time was a mashup of those plots;
Bond is already 'rogue/on holiday' with Madeleine, a Spectre assassin tries to kill him and Madeleine. Bond kills the assassin, his only lead to find Spectre. He goes to Leiter for help to find Spectre's lair, but Leiter is captured by Spectre. Bond encounters the young MI-6 agent along the way, as she is on a parallel mission to stop some devious Spectre plot, she dies helping Bond. M is not happy with Bond about the loss of his agent. Bond is helped by Q and Moneypenny to finish the young MI-6 agent's mission and to save Leiter. Spectre captures Madeleine to blackmail Bond and the last act is Bond trying to stop Spectre and save his friend and wife, a la Dark Knight, and Madeleine dies. The Spectre lair is destroyed, Leiter lives.
Based on what we know now about Bond25, and applying the similar plot path theory, I get;
Madeleine dies after the wedding, Bond kills the attackers leaving no leads. Years later Bond is in Jamaica. Felix Leiter asks Bond to help him and his colleague, CIA agent played by Magnussen, to rescue a scientist. Bond 'goes rogue' with Leiter and they involve a young woman, Paloma. Magnussen betrays the mission, Paloma is killed along with Magnussen, while Lashana's 007 saves Bond, but the mission fails and Leiter is captured by Spectre. Bond and Lashana return to London. Moneypenny and Q help Bond, sending him and Lashana on another search after analysing evidence given to Bond by Leiter, before he was captured. Bond and Lashana go to Norway to find the scientist and Leiter. They rescue Leiter and he helps them find the villain's lair, either in Norway or Scotland, where the scientist is found. They destroy the lair, but the scientist and Lashana die, while Leiter and Bond survive.
Based on what we know now about Bond25, and applying the similar plot path theory, I get;
Madeleine dies after the wedding, Bond kills the attackers leaving no leads. Years later Bond is in Jamaica. Felix Leiter asks Bond to help him and his colleague, CIA agent played by Magnussen, to rescue a scientist. Bond 'goes rogue' with Leiter and they involve a young woman, Paloma. Magnussen betrays the mission, Paloma is killed along with Magnussen, while Lashana's 007 saves Bond, but the mission fails and Leiter is captured by Spectre. Bond and Lashana return to London. Moneypenny and Q help Bond, sending him and Lashana on another search after analysing evidence given to Bond by Leiter, before he was captured. Bond and Lashana go to Norway to find the scientist and Leiter. They rescue Leiter and he helps them find the villain's lair, either in Norway or Scotland, where the scientist is found. They destroy the lair, but the scientist and Lashana die, while Leiter and Bond survive.
Some good ideas, but I don't think they're going to kill all three women. One will definitely die, maybe two, but not three.
"According to the first rumors, the first scene of the film that is still shrouded in mystery by plot and title, will be shot among the Sassi of Matera but, unfortunately for the fans and for the most curious, the protagonist should not appear in the initial scene but, in its place, there will be co-protagonists. There will be ways to see it in other shots. Obviously the "stunt man" will not be missing for the most spectacular and risky scenes."
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There’s also that picture from the sea road in Norway showing two stunt doubles with dots on their faces who could pass quite easily for Bond and Madeleine.
I think Jamaica will go as follows, I agree they will show Bond living his life as a widower and retired agent.
I then think that Lashana Lynch will be there working her own mission - perhaps even using 007 as her codename - but something goes wrong. CIA is also there but they need assistance and Bond is the only other asset in the region to help. That is what pulls him back into service.
Yes, I agree. It feels a bit easy.
But I wouldn't mind if she's apparently killed in the mooted DB5 action scene, and we and Bond both think she's dead, only for her to return later in the show. Just not in a Sean Bean sort of way!
Or maybe we even find out that Bond helped to fake her death (we think she's dead but we're not let in on Bond's plan)... yeah that'd be better.
I do not think it's Bond driving. I think Someone else is driving in this scene, and Bond finds his car later in the film. One reason is the double take he does looking at it in Whitehall. I think it is new to him.
James Bond series has never done a flashback. The closest thing would be the Goldeneye pre-title sequence, but only if you consider the Living Daylights and Licence to Kill taking place after that 10 years ago scene- since it was originally written for Dalton. Otherwise everything is in chronological order. So I'm pretty sure the little girl is meant to be leverage to make the scientist cooperate, if she doesn't get hypothermia.
The closest equivalent to the first two scenes would by the FYEO opening followed by Melina Havelock's parents death. That should take 15 minutes max before we see Bond again. He seems very happy on vacation, especially when he smokes cigars and meets Nomi so I don't think Madeleine is dead yet, unless 5 years have passed and he is done mourning her But I don't think so. He is again way too happy at Whitehall when he does the DB V double take.
Jamaica should be over by the 30-35 minute mark. It is meant to serve as our M meeting. Paloma shouldn't die because she is kidnapped specifically because she knows how to make or operate the technology. Therefore Paloma is the Macguffin, not the technology. If Reason to Die is the title, it could be in reference to Paloma. Bond's mission should be specifically to kill her so she cannot aid Malek. This would be a great twist, seeing Bond play the anti-hero.
At the one hour mark, Paloma will tell Bond that she is willing to die in order to save the world, but they will kill her daughter so Bond has a change of heart.
The rest of the movie i have no idea about.
But then Craig and Lea would at least be on set filming in Norway, so I think they are face-capturing someone else. They will drive it through Norway, then park it in Matera. Then James will commandeer it towards the end of the film.
I could get behind the misdirection of a fake death, although if Bond is in on it then it starts to feel a bit too much like Mission Impossible to me. But even that is preferable to her getting killed outright and Bond going on a revenge quest.
Barbara also said that, when we meet Bond he is in Jamaica, I think if we are to believe her, Jamaica introduces Bond and he will not be in the pre-title sequence. I retain my theory that it is not him and Madeleine in the Vantage.
Rami Malek says he already filmed a scene Norway without us having gotten wind of it.
Depending upon the details of the story, Pinewood can double for all kinds of locations. I remember visiting the "Nambutu Embassy" in the Bahamas and being shocked by how little was done there in terms of exteriors for CR.
Ultimately, while I get a kick out of Someone's deductive work in terms of connecting the locations and clapperboards to plot twists, I remind myself that we know very, very little. (Not to mention that reshoots are common after the completion of principal photography.)
I don't see how Daniel could secretly film in Norway. Even if Rami did it, he hasn't been globehopping like Daniel has and the paparazii have followed him every step of the way.
He'll have been filming in plenty of places we haven't seen in the papers. I'm not convinced that Eon themselves don't have a hand in
these paparazii shots anyway (I'm not totally convinced those shots of Moneypenny in Waterloo weren't taken the week before they were released) so I imagine he slips away to a few places. Whether it's to a whole country, I don't know.
The second woman in the Atlantic road, Vantage filming could have been doubling for Paloma - who if connected to the villain may know of Norway despite being in Cuba.
If you see pictures of Lea and Ana together they are same height and about the same build, so any double for either of them could equally be for the other.
I think that's a bit of a stretch to guess that. And apparently they're filming in Italy for over two months: that'll be a chunk of the film.
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I'd much rather have this than an embittered Bond grieving for the death of a loved one and seeking revenge. We already had this and it was called DAF. No, wait, QoS.
Plus, I never bought the romance with Madeleine. It felt forced to me.
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Here it is on Google maps.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dunsfold+Aerodrome/@51.1176437,-0.5341716,1403m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x20766891ab36c8eb!8m2!3d51.1194484!4d-0.53061
Back to Dunsfold? Full circle for Craig if they are
I remember the shoot there years ago: I actually even saw the baggage car all strewn across the runway
Double take? He arrives in Whitehall in the Vantage. See the BTS video here.
https://twitter.com/007/status/1145353418803834880
Pictures from Splash News printed in the UK tabloid The Sun and elsewhere show a London road with terraced houses and the accompanying stories claim it's where Q lives, but it is hard to work out what exact road it is.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9463497/daniel-craig-naomi-harris-james-bond-25/
But, Twitter account James Bond 007 News has tweeted that they were filming outside 41 Roupell street.
https://twitter.com/JB007_news/status/1147830025435041793
And it does look like it when you look at Roupell street on Google street map.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5043657,-0.1102514,3a,75y,96.06h,79.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIakkxpgS7Sp-gxhzhyXsig!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
You can't see it there but when he gets out of the car, he walks a few paces, then turns around and smiles I assume at the car.
Yeah that's where they reported the sighting of the Aston the weekend before last, presumably when they shot this the same day as the Westminster stuff.
I was trying to work out if that Craig acting as Bond or whether he's looking at the director or AD to see whether he should go back. It could well be the car's introduction in the film I guess.
Wheres the pic of Craig with the green Aston behind him? It was released about the same time as the video. I figured the "double take" was the photographer of that pic, out of frame of the film crew. I can't seem to find the picture right now.
There is a video shot from afar of them filming that scene, where Craig walks a few steps, then cut and reset are called over loud speaker. He turns and walks back to the car. Could that be what you saw?
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My guess at Bond25's plot at the time was a mashup of those plots;
Bond is already 'rogue/on holiday' with Madeleine, a Spectre assassin tries to kill him and Madeleine. Bond kills the assassin, his only lead to find Spectre. He goes to Leiter for help to find Spectre's lair, but Leiter is captured by Spectre. Bond encounters the young MI-6 agent along the way, as she is on a parallel mission to stop some devious Spectre plot, she dies helping Bond. M is not happy with Bond about the loss of his agent. Bond is helped by Q and Moneypenny to finish the young MI-6 agent's mission and to save Leiter. Spectre captures Madeleine to blackmail Bond and the last act is Bond trying to stop Spectre and save his friend and wife, a la Dark Knight, and Madeleine dies. The Spectre lair is destroyed, Leiter lives.
Based on what we know now about Bond25, and applying the similar plot path theory, I get;
Madeleine dies after the wedding, Bond kills the attackers leaving no leads. Years later Bond is in Jamaica. Felix Leiter asks Bond to help him and his colleague, CIA agent played by Magnussen, to rescue a scientist. Bond 'goes rogue' with Leiter and they involve a young woman, Paloma. Magnussen betrays the mission, Paloma is killed along with Magnussen, while Lashana's 007 saves Bond, but the mission fails and Leiter is captured by Spectre. Bond and Lashana return to London. Moneypenny and Q help Bond, sending him and Lashana on another search after analysing evidence given to Bond by Leiter, before he was captured. Bond and Lashana go to Norway to find the scientist and Leiter. They rescue Leiter and he helps them find the villain's lair, either in Norway or Scotland, where the scientist is found. They destroy the lair, but the scientist and Lashana die, while Leiter and Bond survive.
Some good ideas, but I don't think they're going to kill all three women. One will definitely die, maybe two, but not three.
"According to the first rumors, the first scene of the film that is still shrouded in mystery by plot and title, will be shot among the Sassi of Matera but, unfortunately for the fans and for the most curious, the protagonist should not appear in the initial scene but, in its place, there will be co-protagonists. There will be ways to see it in other shots. Obviously the "stunt man" will not be missing for the most spectacular and risky scenes."
https://www.materalife.it/notizie/james-bond-ciak-a-matera-anche-la-prima-scena-del-nuovo-film/