I had a wonderful debate last week with three very good friends of mines who also are huge Bond fans. Two of them are pretty sure Bond will be killed off in NTTD. This rumour is not brand new and I know this topic has already been discussed but not with real arguments.
I officially ask you guys: do you thing Craig's Bond will die and if yes, why would EON dare such a thing which is complete nonsense to me ?
One of the elements I like the most when I watch a Bond film is the fact I know from the beginning Bond is going to survive. I want to see him kicking the villain's ass, using cool gadgets, seducing beautiful ladies with charm and charisma as he used to do on screen between 1962 and 2002. The only way to identify with the character is making him a heroe who struggles but finally succeeds. People who discovered Bond during their childhood perfetly know what I mean.
If Bond is killed off, it remains nothing except frustration ans sadness. There is no reward as a fan to see a legendary character dying just to show nothing lasts forever. Disney already destroyed my childhood with their shitty SW trilogy, I hope EON will not strike it down with killing my all-time favourite character.
Just be honest fellows, do you really think such an ending is unavoidable ?
"Just be honest fellows, do you really think such an ending is unavoidable ?"
I don't believe such an ending is unavoidable. While I think its possible for Bond films to have downbeat endings- see OHMSS, for example- outright killing Bond off would leave a nasty taste in the audience' mouth and divide fans. Having Bond die would be massively disappointing, as it would end the Craig era on a low note as well as failing to deliver a triumphant return for 007 after a five year break. For me, no creative reason could justify such a move. Even the darkest Bond film of all, Licence to Kill, finished with Bond getting the girl. Unfortunately, given the Craig era's tendencies towards psychological melodrama, I am admittedly rather worried that Eon don't understand why killing Bond would be a bad idea. What do others think?
...I officially ask you guys: do you thing Craig's Bond will die and if yes, why would EON dare such a thing which is complete nonsense to me ?
One of the elements I like the most when I watch a Bond film is the fact I know from the beginning Bond is going to survive. I want to see him kicking the villain's ass, using cool gadgets, seducing beautiful ladies with charm and charisma as he used to do on screen between 1962 and 2002. The only way to identify with the character is making him a heroe who struggles but finally succeeds. People who discovered Bond during their childhood perfetly know what I mean.
If Bond is killed off, it remains nothing except frustration ans sadness. There is no reward as a fan to see a legendary character dying just to show nothing lasts forever. Disney already destroyed my childhood with their shitty SW trilogy, I hope EON will not strike it down with killing my all-time favourite character.
Just be honest fellows, do you really think such an ending is unavoidable ?
Logan certainly managed to successfully pull off the whole “ending with the death of the legendary lead character, that has been played by the same actor for many films over many years” thing. It was definitely a satisfying conclusion in my opinion and did show that nothing/no one (no even the un-killable Wolverine) can last forever. Even with Wolverine/Logan’s death, and the popularity of Jackman in the role, I’m sure we’ll get a reboot of sorts of the character with another actor at some point in the future.
So a few similarities with Bond there...but do I think they’ll go that way with Craig’s Bond in NTTD—no I do not. I guess it would be a real indisputable conclusion to the arc that started in CR, and we did already get the happy “off into the sunset with his love” conclusion in SP, so having that again in this would be a bit of a repeat...but I still don’t think they’ll kill Bond. Maybe Tracy/Madeleine, or even their possible child—that would sure be a shocking end!
If they’re going to stick with a modern Bond in the next film, whenever that may be, how are they going to play it? Just ignore it completely and have the next Bond start from scratch again like CR or like GE where it starts early but not at the beginning of his career? Will the casual audience then ask the question “Wait wasn’t Bond killed in the last one? How is he alive again?”.
Quick thoughts on the possibility that they kill Bond in NTTD:
1.) For all the fantasy in the Bond films, he is supposed to be a real man. He doesn't have an adamantium skeleton and hang out with a guy who can shoot laser beams from his eyes and a girl who's some sort of psychic telekinetic goddess. The Craig films especially have leaned into gritty realness. In our world dead means dead. You can kill Wolverine and Superman and probably even Iron Man and bring him back and people will accept it because it's a frigging comic book movie. As JTM said, if Bond dies at the end of NTTD, are people going to leave happy? Will they want to see it again? Because repeat business is how you get to $1 billion.
2.) The defining quality of Bond is that he survives. No matter what's against him, he finds a way. And he comes back. Years ago I was in a theater and at the end of the movie, when the words came up JAMES BOND WILL RETURN, people actually clapped. Killing him isn't the realization of his story or its inevitable denouement; it's a rejection of the character.
3.) In 2021 or whatever, the pressure to reboot Bond as a woman or a person of color or gay will be overwhelming. Sure, you can do him as a white British male, but you'll be starting with a ton of (in my mind, deeply unfair) criticism. Good luck, new actor! Best wishes, EON or whoever's producing the new series!
Having said all this, I have heard lots of people in the know who've seen call sheets and have sources saying they think it's inevitable Bond dies. Maybe EON is set on killing the goose that laid so many golden eggs.
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I had a wonderful debate last week with three very good friends of mines who also are huge Bond fans. Two of them are pretty sure Bond will be killed off in NTTD. This rumour is not brand new and I know this topic has already been discussed but not with real arguments.
I officially ask you guys: do you thing Craig's Bond will die and if yes, why would EON dare such a thing which is complete nonsense to me ?
Whilst I don’t believe the film will end showing Bond dead, I do think it will end with you thinking ‘is he, or not?’
I’m not sure why you would think it’s “complete nonsense” ? As this is DC’s last bond film, Eon could just decide to kill Bond off (something DC has fancied all along apparently) then just move on with the next actor...seems simple enough to me and it would tie up DC’s tenure as a ‘self contained’ set of five movies.
I had a wonderful debate last week with three very good friends of mines who also are huge Bond fans. Two of them are pretty sure Bond will be killed off in NTTD. This rumour is not brand new and I know this topic has already been discussed but not with real arguments.
I officially ask you guys: do you thing Craig's Bond will die and if yes, why would EON dare such a thing which is complete nonsense to me ?
Whilst I don’t believe the film will end showing Bond dead, I do think it will end with you thinking ‘is he, or not?’
I’m not sure why you would think it’s “complete nonsense” ? As this is DC’s last bond film, Eon could just decide to kill Bond off (something DC has fancied all along apparently) then just move on with the next actor...seems simple enough to me and it would tie up DC’s tenure as a ‘self contained’ set of five movies.
One problem with this is that many people don’t get that Craig’s films stand alone. They missed the fact that CR was a reboot and not a prequel or continuation. They’re going to see it as the death of a character from 25 films, or they’re going to wonder how he can die only to come back in Dr. No. It’s important to consider how the audience believes things along with the reality of the situation.
I had a wonderful debate last week with three very good friends of mines who also are huge Bond fans. Two of them are pretty sure Bond will be killed off in NTTD. This rumour is not brand new and I know this topic has already been discussed but not with real arguments.
I officially ask you guys: do you thing Craig's Bond will die and if yes, why would EON dare such a thing which is complete nonsense to me ?
Whilst I don’t believe the film will end showing Bond dead, I do think it will end with you thinking ‘is he, or not?’
I’m not sure why you would think it’s “complete nonsense” ? As this is DC’s last bond film, Eon could just decide to kill Bond off (something DC has fancied all along apparently) then just move on with the next actor...seems simple enough to me and it would tie up DC’s tenure as a ‘self contained’ set of five movies.
One problem with this is that many people don’t get that Craig’s films stand alone. They missed the fact that CR was a reboot and not a prequel or continuation. They’re going to see it as the death of a character from 25 films, or they’re going to wonder how he can die only to come back in Dr. No. It’s important to consider how the audience believes things along with the reality of the situation.
They don’t???
Then what did they think was happening when Bond was given his 00-status in CR when he’d been happily killing people all over the globe in the previous films? )
I’m not convinced that ‘people’ would really give a toss about how Bond would ‘come back’ in Dr. No or Bond26…I think the audience would just think ‘it’s the next Bond film starring X’...the coverage in the press alone would be worth it -{
they look great, especially Craig does but always the same content, need some new surroundings!
I really have that feeling as if I have seen the whole matera-chasing-scene already
but I wonder where they come from?
why would EON dare such a thing which is complete nonsense to me ?
I'm with you on this one. It IS complete nonsense. Yes I know that Craig's films are in their own continuity. But why kill him off? It makes zero sense to me. What good would come from killing him off? What would it achieve other than an angry and divided fanbase?
I agree that Daniel's stand-alone tenure needs to come to an appropriate narrative conclusion. But there are many ways to achieve this without killing him off. It's completely stupid IMO, and if it turns out to be true, I will be shaking my head.
why would EON dare such a thing which is complete nonsense to me ?
I'm with you on this one. It IS complete nonsense. Yes I know that Craig's films are in their own continuity. But why kill him off? It makes zero sense to me. What good would come from killing him off? What would it achieve other than an angry and divided fanbase?
I agree that Daniel's stand-alone tenure needs to come to an appropriate narrative conclusion. But there are many ways to achieve this without killing him off. It's completely stupid IMO, and if it turns out to be true, I will be shaking my head.
Thank you Jarvio. Some previous commentaries say given the DC era is not a prequel, killing Bond off would not compromise the timeline. This IS NOT the point.
It is the same character we have been talking about since 1962. James Bond IS NOT supposed to be killed by anyone. This is some kind of tradition which contributes to make the character the guy every man wants to be and every woman wants to be with...
Personally, I would be devastated as a fan if they dare such a thing, unless their wish is to destroy the spirit of the entire franchise...
We'll see if Danny Boyle really was the foolish one of this neverending project.
Looks like they're all ganging up to blame Bond for stealing the Scooby Snacks.
It's from a trailer released back before the rona delay.
I'm kinda scared of them doing more Scooby gang. MP has 3 different clothes changes just from what I've seen (blue dress in M's office, Fred dress in this shot and in the corridor at MI6, and the casual look for Q's apartment), and Q has 4 (sweater and apron in his apartment, checkered blue from the minilab and poster, slightly different blue shirt and tie from a promotional photo that is in an unknown location, flight gear on the plane). Not to mention it's been told that he has a portable lab, so there may be even more scenes of him. Not looking good on that front.
I'm really sick of Scooby Gang MI6, especially when it's happened back to back to back, and I am really not a fan of Whishaw's Q - I find him very obnoxious, as well as being a very tropey and generic character in all.
I hope the apartment scene is only a very short pit stop for Bond on his was to Safin's, and wil at the very least give us a good gadget reveal sequence like Wai Lin's bunker in TND.
Individually, I like all of the Scooby Gang characters.
Both Mallory and Moneypenny were handled well in SF, I thought. And I seem to be alone in appreciating Q's jokes in SP. (I read a lot here from people who thought every attempt at humor fell flat. And yeah, some of it did like the Aston Martin stuff. But I liked the "one piece" bit and the "it was either this or the priesthood.) And it wasn't like Desmond Llewelyn's Q was a subtle evocation of a complex and compelling soul.
One issue EON has is that the supporting cast in this film has more awards and acclaim than Craig does, and so I'm sure the pressure was on to get the most from them.
I find a little bit disturbing the fact the PTS is supposed to be a flashback of Madeleine's past. The opening sequence usually is linked to the rest of the plot, but a flashback looks weird. It reminds me Batman Begins...
Many elements of the Craig era seem to be based upon the Dark Knight trilogy...
I find a little bit disturbing the fact the PTS is supposed to be a flashback of Madeleine's past. The opening sequence usually is linked to the rest of the plot, but a flashback looks weird. It reminds me Batman Begins...
Many elements of the Craig era seem to be based upon the Dark Knight trilogy...
Well it isn’t a totally new concept to the series—Goldeneye started with a flashback. While it was only nine years and not decades as a young Madeline scene would be, it still counts.
Also, there were some tiny flashbacks in the CR PTS...that technically counts as well. Has there been any others, I can’t remember?
"Well it isn’t a totally new concept to the series—Goldeneye started with a flashback. While it was only nine years and not decades as a young Madeline scene would be, it still counts."
The intriguing possibility here is that the pre-title sequence might not feature Bond at all- for the first time since (I think) From Russia With Love. That would be an interesting change...
Are we to assume that the pre-title sequence is definitively not the Matera DB5 chase featured heavily in the trailers? Or is there still an outside chance of this being the case?
Perhaps both the Madelaine flashback and the DB5 chase occur within a very long, plot-heavy pre-titles, similar to The World Is Not Enough? Who knows...
Also, given that this is the spoiler thread, I'd like to speculate on another spoiler-related aspect of NTTD; what is the nature of Prince Charles' appearance? It was reported by media outlets at around the time of his set visit that he'd been offered a cameo but did he take it? What could this cameo involve? Offscreen work, or a more front-and-centre speaking role a la Madonna in Die Another Day?
I'd be interested to know others' views on this...
Nothing would really surprise me anymore. Perhaps visiting M to award a posthumous knighthood to Commander James Bond. 8-)
Making then the nightmare I was talking about here last week come true ? Bond must survive for God's sake ! Killing Bond off would be the biggest betrayal to the spirit of the franchise.
We never asked ourselves that question for any of the 24 previous movies, I don't understand why this rumor has been so persistant for this one...
If Eon really want to jump the shark, like with Madonna in DAD, they'll have Bond shake hands with Prince Charles while Craig smirkingly delivers something along the lines of:
Bond: "This isn't the first time I've been engaged on royal duty, sir...there was the Olympics a few years ago..."
Prince: "Really? How interesting..."
Bond: "You could say I made something of a flying visit..."
Prince: "How fascinating, do tell!"
Bond: "It was a crowning achievement, wouldn't you agree, Q?"
Q: "If only you'd returned those parachutes in pristine condition, 007..."
Nothing would really surprise me anymore. Perhaps visiting M to award a posthumous knighthood to Commander James Bond. 8-)
Making then the nightmare I was talking about here last week come true ? Bond must survive for God's sake ! Killing Bond off would be the biggest betrayal to the spirit of the franchise.
We never asked ourselves that question for any of the 24 previous movies, I don't understand why this rumor has been so persistant for this one...
I really hope not too. It would be unforgivable if that's written into canon.
Ultimately, I don't think they will kill off the character, but I think at the end of this film it will be left open for the audience to make up their own mind at the end if he survived or not (Perhaps like has been seen in many films previously, The Grey springs to mind). Or it could be like the end of The Bourne Ultimatum, where for a few seconds we believe he's dead but then he starts swimming and the music kicks in. I wouldn't mind this at all!
Hasn't Fukunaga already said that 'James Bond will Return' will be in the credits? Or is that just rumour? If the audience are truly led to believe he's dead then placing this in the credits would obviously detract from the shock factor they're going for.
"Hasn't Fukunaga already said that 'James Bond will Return' will be in the credits? Or is that just rumour? If the audience are truly led to believe he's dead then placing this in the credits would obviously detract from the shock factor they're going for."
I seem to remember something along those lines. At this point, NTTD killing Bond off would no longer be a shock given that the tabloids have been talking about that rumour for months, alerting the general audience to the possibility and spoiling the surprise. On the other hand, devout fans would be angry and divided. Its a lose-lose decision for Eon.
Nothing would really surprise me anymore. Perhaps visiting M to award a posthumous knighthood to Commander James Bond. 8-)
Making then the nightmare I was talking about here last week come true ? Bond must survive for God's sake ! Killing Bond off would be the biggest betrayal to the spirit of the franchise.
We never asked ourselves that question for any of the 24 previous movies, I don't understand why this rumor has been so persistant for this one...
Apparently, Craig has been in favor of his Bond dying for a while. It would complete the character arc of the "suffering Bond."
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I had a wonderful debate last week with three very good friends of mines who also are huge Bond fans. Two of them are pretty sure Bond will be killed off in NTTD. This rumour is not brand new and I know this topic has already been discussed but not with real arguments.
I officially ask you guys: do you thing Craig's Bond will die and if yes, why would EON dare such a thing which is complete nonsense to me ?
One of the elements I like the most when I watch a Bond film is the fact I know from the beginning Bond is going to survive. I want to see him kicking the villain's ass, using cool gadgets, seducing beautiful ladies with charm and charisma as he used to do on screen between 1962 and 2002. The only way to identify with the character is making him a heroe who struggles but finally succeeds. People who discovered Bond during their childhood perfetly know what I mean.
If Bond is killed off, it remains nothing except frustration ans sadness. There is no reward as a fan to see a legendary character dying just to show nothing lasts forever. Disney already destroyed my childhood with their shitty SW trilogy, I hope EON will not strike it down with killing my all-time favourite character.
Just be honest fellows, do you really think such an ending is unavoidable ?
I don't believe such an ending is unavoidable. While I think its possible for Bond films to have downbeat endings- see OHMSS, for example- outright killing Bond off would leave a nasty taste in the audience' mouth and divide fans. Having Bond die would be massively disappointing, as it would end the Craig era on a low note as well as failing to deliver a triumphant return for 007 after a five year break. For me, no creative reason could justify such a move. Even the darkest Bond film of all, Licence to Kill, finished with Bond getting the girl. Unfortunately, given the Craig era's tendencies towards psychological melodrama, I am admittedly rather worried that Eon don't understand why killing Bond would be a bad idea. What do others think?
"The spectre of defeat..."
Logan certainly managed to successfully pull off the whole “ending with the death of the legendary lead character, that has been played by the same actor for many films over many years” thing. It was definitely a satisfying conclusion in my opinion and did show that nothing/no one (no even the un-killable Wolverine) can last forever. Even with Wolverine/Logan’s death, and the popularity of Jackman in the role, I’m sure we’ll get a reboot of sorts of the character with another actor at some point in the future.
So a few similarities with Bond there...but do I think they’ll go that way with Craig’s Bond in NTTD—no I do not. I guess it would be a real indisputable conclusion to the arc that started in CR, and we did already get the happy “off into the sunset with his love” conclusion in SP, so having that again in this would be a bit of a repeat...but I still don’t think they’ll kill Bond. Maybe Tracy/Madeleine, or even their possible child—that would sure be a shocking end!
If they’re going to stick with a modern Bond in the next film, whenever that may be, how are they going to play it? Just ignore it completely and have the next Bond start from scratch again like CR or like GE where it starts early but not at the beginning of his career? Will the casual audience then ask the question “Wait wasn’t Bond killed in the last one? How is he alive again?”.
1.) For all the fantasy in the Bond films, he is supposed to be a real man. He doesn't have an adamantium skeleton and hang out with a guy who can shoot laser beams from his eyes and a girl who's some sort of psychic telekinetic goddess. The Craig films especially have leaned into gritty realness. In our world dead means dead. You can kill Wolverine and Superman and probably even Iron Man and bring him back and people will accept it because it's a frigging comic book movie. As JTM said, if Bond dies at the end of NTTD, are people going to leave happy? Will they want to see it again? Because repeat business is how you get to $1 billion.
2.) The defining quality of Bond is that he survives. No matter what's against him, he finds a way. And he comes back. Years ago I was in a theater and at the end of the movie, when the words came up JAMES BOND WILL RETURN, people actually clapped. Killing him isn't the realization of his story or its inevitable denouement; it's a rejection of the character.
3.) In 2021 or whatever, the pressure to reboot Bond as a woman or a person of color or gay will be overwhelming. Sure, you can do him as a white British male, but you'll be starting with a ton of (in my mind, deeply unfair) criticism. Good luck, new actor! Best wishes, EON or whoever's producing the new series!
Having said all this, I have heard lots of people in the know who've seen call sheets and have sources saying they think it's inevitable Bond dies. Maybe EON is set on killing the goose that laid so many golden eggs.
Whilst I don’t believe the film will end showing Bond dead, I do think it will end with you thinking ‘is he, or not?’
I’m not sure why you would think it’s “complete nonsense” ? As this is DC’s last bond film, Eon could just decide to kill Bond off (something DC has fancied all along apparently) then just move on with the next actor...seems simple enough to me and it would tie up DC’s tenure as a ‘self contained’ set of five movies.
One problem with this is that many people don’t get that Craig’s films stand alone. They missed the fact that CR was a reboot and not a prequel or continuation. They’re going to see it as the death of a character from 25 films, or they’re going to wonder how he can die only to come back in Dr. No. It’s important to consider how the audience believes things along with the reality of the situation.
They don’t???
Then what did they think was happening when Bond was given his 00-status in CR when he’d been happily killing people all over the globe in the previous films?
I’m not convinced that ‘people’ would really give a toss about how Bond would ‘come back’ in Dr. No or Bond26…I think the audience would just think ‘it’s the next Bond film starring X’...the coverage in the press alone would be worth it -{
they look great, especially Craig does but always the same content, need some new surroundings!
I really have that feeling as if I have seen the whole matera-chasing-scene already
but I wonder where they come from?
I'm with you on this one. It IS complete nonsense. Yes I know that Craig's films are in their own continuity. But why kill him off? It makes zero sense to me. What good would come from killing him off? What would it achieve other than an angry and divided fanbase?
I agree that Daniel's stand-alone tenure needs to come to an appropriate narrative conclusion. But there are many ways to achieve this without killing him off. It's completely stupid IMO, and if it turns out to be true, I will be shaking my head.
1 - Moore, 2 - Dalton, 3 - Craig, 4 - Connery, 5 - Brosnan, 6 - Lazenby
Thank you Jarvio. Some previous commentaries say given the DC era is not a prequel, killing Bond off would not compromise the timeline. This IS NOT the point.
It is the same character we have been talking about since 1962. James Bond IS NOT supposed to be killed by anyone. This is some kind of tradition which contributes to make the character the guy every man wants to be and every woman wants to be with...
Personally, I would be devastated as a fan if they dare such a thing, unless their wish is to destroy the spirit of the entire franchise...
We'll see if Danny Boyle really was the foolish one of this neverending project.
thought this was new, not quite sure
It's from a trailer released back before the rona delay.
I'm kinda scared of them doing more Scooby gang. MP has 3 different clothes changes just from what I've seen (blue dress in M's office, Fred dress in this shot and in the corridor at MI6, and the casual look for Q's apartment), and Q has 4 (sweater and apron in his apartment, checkered blue from the minilab and poster, slightly different blue shirt and tie from a promotional photo that is in an unknown location, flight gear on the plane). Not to mention it's been told that he has a portable lab, so there may be even more scenes of him. Not looking good on that front.
I'm really sick of Scooby Gang MI6, especially when it's happened back to back to back, and I am really not a fan of Whishaw's Q - I find him very obnoxious, as well as being a very tropey and generic character in all.
I hope the apartment scene is only a very short pit stop for Bond on his was to Safin's, and wil at the very least give us a good gadget reveal sequence like Wai Lin's bunker in TND.
Both Mallory and Moneypenny were handled well in SF, I thought. And I seem to be alone in appreciating Q's jokes in SP. (I read a lot here from people who thought every attempt at humor fell flat. And yeah, some of it did like the Aston Martin stuff. But I liked the "one piece" bit and the "it was either this or the priesthood.) And it wasn't like Desmond Llewelyn's Q was a subtle evocation of a complex and compelling soul.
One issue EON has is that the supporting cast in this film has more awards and acclaim than Craig does, and so I'm sure the pressure was on to get the most from them.
Edit: better quality
this one ist definitely new, Empire releases always a bunch of pics, so hopefully we are going to see some more new stills
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https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/no-time-to-die-director-cary-joji-fukunaga-talks-007-delay-exclusive/
Well this just deconfimed Safin storming Q's apartment.
Doorframe in the Q apartment is white, not brown
Looks more like the PTS.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8395267/We-werent-expecting-Mr-Bond-007-five-year-old-daughter-new-film-No-Time-Die.html
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Many elements of the Craig era seem to be based upon the Dark Knight trilogy...
Well it isn’t a totally new concept to the series—Goldeneye started with a flashback. While it was only nine years and not decades as a young Madeline scene would be, it still counts.
Also, there were some tiny flashbacks in the CR PTS...that technically counts as well. Has there been any others, I can’t remember?
The intriguing possibility here is that the pre-title sequence might not feature Bond at all- for the first time since (I think) From Russia With Love. That would be an interesting change...
Are we to assume that the pre-title sequence is definitively not the Matera DB5 chase featured heavily in the trailers? Or is there still an outside chance of this being the case?
Perhaps both the Madelaine flashback and the DB5 chase occur within a very long, plot-heavy pre-titles, similar to The World Is Not Enough? Who knows...
"The spectre of defeat..."
I'd be interested to know others' views on this...
"The spectre of defeat..."
Making then the nightmare I was talking about here last week come true ? Bond must survive for God's sake ! Killing Bond off would be the biggest betrayal to the spirit of the franchise.
We never asked ourselves that question for any of the 24 previous movies, I don't understand why this rumor has been so persistant for this one...
Bond: "This isn't the first time I've been engaged on royal duty, sir...there was the Olympics a few years ago..."
Prince: "Really? How interesting..."
Bond: "You could say I made something of a flying visit..."
Prince: "How fascinating, do tell!"
Bond: "It was a crowning achievement, wouldn't you agree, Q?"
Q: "If only you'd returned those parachutes in pristine condition, 007..."
Any other thoughts on Prince Charles' cameo?
"The spectre of defeat..."
I really hope not too. It would be unforgivable if that's written into canon.
Ultimately, I don't think they will kill off the character, but I think at the end of this film it will be left open for the audience to make up their own mind at the end if he survived or not (Perhaps like has been seen in many films previously, The Grey springs to mind). Or it could be like the end of The Bourne Ultimatum, where for a few seconds we believe he's dead but then he starts swimming and the music kicks in. I wouldn't mind this at all!
Hasn't Fukunaga already said that 'James Bond will Return' will be in the credits? Or is that just rumour? If the audience are truly led to believe he's dead then placing this in the credits would obviously detract from the shock factor they're going for.
I seem to remember something along those lines. At this point, NTTD killing Bond off would no longer be a shock given that the tabloids have been talking about that rumour for months, alerting the general audience to the possibility and spoiling the surprise. On the other hand, devout fans would be angry and divided. Its a lose-lose decision for Eon.
"The spectre of defeat..."
Apparently, Craig has been in favor of his Bond dying for a while. It would complete the character arc of the "suffering Bond."