Looks like 007 store UK are already out of stock on the 2020 golden guns, anyone who wants one will have to grab it from factory entertainment directly... before they run out too! I didn't think 500 would take very long to go, especially with people pre ordering multiple GG's.
OKAY, DISREGARD THIS. THEY PUT OUT OF STOCK UP WHILE THEY MADE ADJUSTEMENTS TO THE DESCRIPTION.
"I hate to ask stupid questions but where exactly did you lay him out cold?"
Yes. This might go in favour of them finishing them ahead of schedule but we don't want them rushed. Also if they're all gone by next year and some unfortunate soul ends up with a defective GG they won't have any parts or guns left to replace them with. I'm interested to know how F.E will respond if anyone does have a problem with theirs, will they make and replace parts or are we going to get the "Sorry there's nothing we can do about it as we're sold out" problem?
AS I STATED IN THE ORIGINAL POST WHEN I EDITED, THEY PUT OUT OF STOCK ON THE SITE WHILE THEY WERE MAKING CHANGES TO THE DESCRIPTION, NOW STATING STANDARD INSTEAD OF EARLY BIRD PRICING.
"I hate to ask stupid questions but where exactly did you lay him out cold?"
People love that Golden Gun. Isn't this their second version? Whatever sells. I would like to see some other stuff. Even more simple items like Dalton's key ring finder that actually functions like in the movie. Without the explosives of course. But they can have fake smoke for the gas.
People love that Golden Gun. Isn't this their second version? Whatever sells. I would like to see some other stuff. Even more simple items like Dalton's key ring finder that actually functions like in the movie. Without the explosives of course. But they can have fake smoke for the gas.
Yes this is their second run, back by popular demand so to speak. The James bond international fan club were selling the key ring from TLD when I joined up over 10 years ago. Still kicking myself for not getting one but I was only a kid so that's my excuse )
"I hate to ask stupid questions but where exactly did you lay him out cold?"
People love that Golden Gun. Isn't this their second version? Whatever sells. I would like to see some other stuff. Even more simple items like Dalton's key ring finder that actually functions like in the movie. Without the explosives of course. But they can have fake smoke for the gas.
Yes this is their second run, back by popular demand so to speak. The James bond international fan club were selling the key ring from TLD when I joined up over 10 years ago. Still kicking myself for not getting one but I was only a kid so that's my excuse )
I can't remember seeing that. I did probably check the forum from time to time back then. But wasn't a member. Still such a simple prop, you think they would make it.
People love that Golden Gun. Isn't this their second version? Whatever sells. I would like to see some other stuff. Even more simple items like Dalton's key ring finder that actually functions like in the movie. Without the explosives of course. But they can have fake smoke for the gas.
Yes this is their second run, back by popular demand so to speak. The James bond international fan club were selling the key ring from TLD when I joined up over 10 years ago. Still kicking myself for not getting one but I was only a kid so that's my excuse )
I can't remember seeing that. I did probably check the forum from time to time back then. But wasn't a member. Still such a simple prop, you think they would make it.
I was 10 or 11, I'm 33 now, everything I had was through the letter box on paper including what they had for sale back then. They didn't have an online forum at the time that I'm aware of and dial up internet connection was barely in lol. I still have the small black and white catalogue somewhere.
"I hate to ask stupid questions but where exactly did you lay him out cold?"
Yes this is their second run, back by popular demand so to speak. The James bond international fan club were selling the key ring from TLD when I joined up over 10 years ago. Still kicking myself for not getting one but I was only a kid so that's my excuse )
I can't remember seeing that. I did probably check the forum from time to time back then. But wasn't a member. Still such a simple prop, you think they would make it.
I was 10 or 11, I'm 33 now, everything I had was through the letter box on paper including what they had for sale back then. They didn't have an online forum at the time that I'm aware of and dial up internet connection was barely in lol. I still have the small black and white catalogue somewhere.
I was talking about this forum. And around 10 years ago.
Yes, that's it, I bought that version and a replica makers that emitted smoke when on a custom display base, but someone whistled the wrong tune (although I like that tune) and blew it to smithereens...
...Anyone have corrections or editions for the Golden Gun charts?
I can't remember seeing that. I did probably check the forum from time to time back then. But wasn't a member. Still such a simple prop, you think they would make it.
I was 10 or 11, I'm 33 now, everything I had was through the letter box on paper including what they had for sale back then. They didn't have an online forum at the time that I'm aware of and dial up internet connection was barely in lol. I still have the small black and white catalogue somewhere.
I was talking about this forum. And around 10 years ago.
I didn't know about the James Bond International Fan Club. I was lucky somehow finding out about stuff like the Franklin Mint DB5 and Easton Press Fleming reprints with the slipcase. It could have been though some magazine advertisement or ad mail that I received by purchasing something else. I guess I wasn't lucky enough on the key ring. But they can make a better one these days.
FE just sent out an email hinting they're doing NTTD props in the coming year...
Wouldn't they be better off focusing on more memorable films, ones that have props/gadgets that we would have killed for. TLD keyring finder for example. They'd better make sure the film doesn't bomb before they start producing... whatever they are planning to produce.
"I hate to ask stupid questions but where exactly did you lay him out cold?"
I’d like to start a thread that is a one-stop shop for GG device history, and will add photos once the AJB Gadget Boffins help edit this text. I’m neither a gun expert nor a Golden Gun expert and so appreciate your helpful edits:
The Golden Gun: a Tom Mankiewicz concept, based on Ian Fleming novel's “gold-plated, long-barrelled, single-action” .45 Colt Army Revolver (? See the book’s text), used with Francisco Paco “Pistols” Scaramanga’s personally machined bullets, featuring a heavy, soft (24 carat!) gold core, jacketed with silver and dum-dum cross-cut at their tips
**
*A Cigarette Case becomes a Golden Gun Grip
*A Cigarette Lighter becomes a Golden Gun Chamber
*A Fountain Pen becomes a Golden Gun Barrel
*A Man’s Cufflink becomes a Golden Gun Trigger
**
The Man with the Golden Gun’s Film Props – Number Produced: 5
1st Version (Production Made): Peter Nelson’s Prototype
Case (Grip): Bears an “S” logo for “Scaramanga”
Lighter (Chamber): Built from two lighters
Design: Part balsa wood with a pin stuck through as connector
Other: The “S” logo appears on drawn versions of the gun in early film publicity materials only
Bullet: Gold with a silver-colored nose and large “007” engraving
*Sold at Christie’s Auction in December 2001 (Sale 275, Lot 9287)
2nd Version (Production Made): Peter Lamont and Ron Quelch’s “Design Zero”
* Made by “Supplier of Gentlemen’s Accessories” Colibri, fragile, dropped and damaged by the actor principals (!), stolen from a display in New York City in 1974
Lighter (Chamber): A modified Colibi Moletric 88 cigarette lighter, which model is shorter than the final, enhanced film prop
Pen (Barrel): Said to have used a Dunhill pen (but was a modified Waterman Plaque Or G Pen with a push-in cap)
Design: A square was applied for a planned “S” monogram, on one side
* Bert Luxford attempted to add special effects to this one (did not work, unused in final cut of film)
* One screen version pen was not modified and is shown writing with ink, Scaramanga’s “cellar note” for a wine reminiscent of a 1934 Mouton Rothschild
3rd Version (Screen Used “Gun No. 1”): From J.S. Rose, London Silversmith Firm
* The three Rose models combined design ideas from the EON team and Colibri
* Under close examination, the three Rose models showed slight differences in their appearance, however, they were quickly built, to meet the film’s production schedule
* Gun No. 1 was the “gadget version” which assembled/disassembled
* Gun No. 1 is still part of EON's prop archive
Case (Grip): Colibri, taken from the Lamont model with a new top locking mechanism added to connect to the lighter
Lighter (Chamber): Colibri, taken from the Lamont model with all internal parts removed and a sliding gun breech added
Pen (Barrel): J.S. Rose modified a Waterman pen to remove all internal components, adding an open barrel end and a removable cap to hide the barrel screw thread
Cufflink (Trigger): J.S. Rose made, gold-plated sterling silver
Design: Silver with gold plating
4th Version (Screen Used “Gun No. 2”): J.S. Rose, solid one-piece version
* For action scenes, wide shots and stunt scenes (Gun No. 2 has the most screen time of the three Rose guns)
* Lacks the logo and decorative elements of Gun No. 1
* Made from brass, as are the screen used “golden” bullets
* Stolen from Elstree Studios in 2008
5th Version (Screen Used “Gun No. 3”): J.S. Rose, solid version
* John Stears modified Gun No. 3 to fire squibs
* Gun No. 3 is visible on screen most in the assassination scenes outside the “Bottoms Up Club”
* Stolen from a 1975 exhibition
Gold “Dum-Dum” Bullet
* Engraved with a small number then sent to 007
* Other bullets were made for the production for Scaramanga’s Chunghwa “Case”, Scaramanga’s Belt Buckle and Lazar’s Warehouse
* A variety of large bullets were used for publicity purposes
SD (Steve Dymzo) Golden Guns
SD 1st Generation Gun - Number Produced: ?
Case (Grip): Lacks a ruby, and is perpendicular to the barrel (Case Lid: Superior finish, with a slanted "lid" when closed, although not given the appearance of a true lid)
Lighter (Chamber): Lacks a Colibri label
Pen (Barrel): Correct pen, with two-component pen barrel so sight may turn while attached to lighter, but pen clip is wrong (Pen Cap: Threaded cap that fits at pen base, and also, atop the gun barrel)
Cufflink (Trigger): Crude with a bare thread that screws to case only and does not secure the lighter (design choices were made from the variety of production models), licensed markings, 24-carat gold-plated metal, quite fragile, engraving is not painted in, “007” engraved case
Bullet: Longer than on other models, breechloader version
SD “Transition” Gun - Number Produced: About 7 Known Examples
Case (Grip): Lacks a ruby but has smoother, non-protruding, lines running down the case (Case Lid: Not slanted)
Design: “007” Case or Wood Plaques (?)
SD 2nd Generation Gun – Number Produced: 700 (?) including 1st and Transition Models (?)
Case (Grip): A spring-loaded locking clip holds the lighter in place (Case Lid: Hinge, and therefore, barrel slant, is too small, with the grip at an angle so that the hinge shows)
Cufflink (Trigger): Too long, trigger is stationary
Design: No license markings, a more accurate replica than the SD 1st Generation (remaining imperfections in design came from choices made from the wide variety of film production models), wood plaque for display, gun’s size is about 5% larger than SD's 1st Generation & Transition Models
Factory Entertainment Golden Guns
FE 1st Generation Gun (And “Signature Edition” Dual Autographed Guns) – Number Produced: 1,000 FE, 400 SE
Case (Grip): Excellent design with monogram square on one side (Case Lid: Also strong design, with hinge showing only a little)
Pen (Barrel): Pen Cap is a pseudo-threaded push-in cap, orange plug added for firearm regulations
Cufflink (Trigger): A spring-loaded trigger, but thread is too long and bar is incorrect
Design: Licensed item, and closest replica to date, cast and machined from aluminum and alloys with 18-carat gold plating, resembles most the version used to shoot Dr. Gibson, size is close to SD’s 2nd Generation, there is some fragility to parts and possible oxidization so owners should avoid overuse of assembly/disassembly/handling, the Colibri logo was left off for trademark reasons, gun weight is 14 ounces, an acrylic stand holds the gun upright inside an acrylic case
Bullet: Resin bullet that loads into lighter, early models with one bullet, later issues added more bullets
“Most Screen Accurate Hybrid” - Number Produced: 1
Case (Grip) FE 1st Gen
Lighter (Chamber): FE 1st Gen
Pen (Barrel): SD 1st Gen Pen, bored along its length to fit a FE 1st Gen lighter (Pen Cap: SD 1st Gen)
Cufflink (Trigger): SD 1st Gen
FE 2nd Generation Gun – Number to Be Produced: Limited to Maximum 2,000
Case (Grip): A raised line has been added to the case’s side with the flat “S” square, to resemble how the film prop looked to have opened
Lighter (Chamber): Screws are visible as lighter opens
Pen (Barrel): Removable thread cap on bottom, removable pen “gun sight” on top that may be rotated around gun to match film scenes with sight upside down, orange marking added to comply with firearms regulations
Cufflink (Trigger): Spring-bladed action, trigger no longer shows on hinge side
Design: Gun weight is 27 ounces, stores horizontally or vertically in a foam-lined, lacquered wood case, liner reverses for assembled or diassembled display
Bullet: Needs a more realistic ignition cap, loads into lighter’s breech chamber
I emailed and asked if there was an update as to when it would ship (I could not find a ship date on the website) and got a kind of passive-aggressive response:
"No updates, we are still on track to ship in Fall of 2020 which runs between September and November 2020."
I emailed and asked if there was an update as to when it would ship (I could not find a ship date on the website) and got a kind of passive-aggressive response:
"No updates, we are still on track to ship in Fall of 2020 which runs between September and November 2020."
)
Well, from that response we do know that they're in the northern hemisphere! :007)
"This order has already shipped or has reached the final stages of processing. Therefore this order is no longer editable."
I guess it's finally on its way. Placed my order august last year and don't have a tracking # or any details yet, meanwhile a guy I spoke to on Twitter placed his order last April and already recieved his. Odd...
Hi all, has anyone on the payment plan had their final payment taken yet? I had the initial two payments taken on 3rd October and 3rd November but I've not had another payment taken in December yet? Anyone else in the same position?
One is okay but the other had a cufflink screw issue, took ages to get in as it was far too stiff to the point where it actually cut the inside of my thumb open and when it did finally twist in all the way it doesn't lock any parts together so everything is loose, rattling and feels like it is going to fall apart. I don't think the lighter fits on the cigarette case properly either which may be part of it being loose. The pen clips are still flimsy and feel/look cheap and the breach section when pulled all the way out doesn't line up with the holes for the cufflink screw. Lastly the breach section tends to bend upwards quite a bit when locked in and isn't solid when extended.
I ordered from 007 store almost immediately after they became available a day early, bearing in mind I ordered them together I ended up with numbers 35 and 66. What number you get depending on whether you order first/early or not is a load of B.S.
"I hate to ask stupid questions but where exactly did you lay him out cold?"
Comments
OKAY, DISREGARD THIS. THEY PUT OUT OF STOCK UP WHILE THEY MADE ADJUSTEMENTS TO THE DESCRIPTION.
Yes. This might go in favour of them finishing them ahead of schedule but we don't want them rushed. Also if they're all gone by next year and some unfortunate soul ends up with a defective GG they won't have any parts or guns left to replace them with. I'm interested to know how F.E will respond if anyone does have a problem with theirs, will they make and replace parts or are we going to get the "Sorry there's nothing we can do about it as we're sold out" problem?
AS I STATED IN THE ORIGINAL POST WHEN I EDITED, THEY PUT OUT OF STOCK ON THE SITE WHILE THEY WERE MAKING CHANGES TO THE DESCRIPTION, NOW STATING STANDARD INSTEAD OF EARLY BIRD PRICING.
Yes this is their second run, back by popular demand so to speak. The James bond international fan club were selling the key ring from TLD when I joined up over 10 years ago. Still kicking myself for not getting one but I was only a kid so that's my excuse
I can't remember seeing that. I did probably check the forum from time to time back then. But wasn't a member. Still such a simple prop, you think they would make it.
I was 10 or 11, I'm 33 now, everything I had was through the letter box on paper including what they had for sale back then. They didn't have an online forum at the time that I'm aware of and dial up internet connection was barely in lol. I still have the small black and white catalogue somewhere.
I was talking about this forum. And around 10 years ago.
This isn't the one is it?
http://djwilliamsphotography.com/Collectables_Shop/Film_Props/slides/KeyFinder_a.html
I would like them to make it work with the whistle.
...Anyone have corrections or editions for the Golden Gun charts?
I never saw anything on forums, what I saw was what came through my letter box at the time but yes, that must be the one.
Wouldn't they be better off focusing on more memorable films, ones that have props/gadgets that we would have killed for. TLD keyring finder for example. They'd better make sure the film doesn't bomb before they start producing... whatever they are planning to produce.
Yup, Shame.
I’d like to start a thread that is a one-stop shop for GG device history, and will add photos once the AJB Gadget Boffins help edit this text. I’m neither a gun expert nor a Golden Gun expert and so appreciate your helpful edits:
The Golden Gun: a Tom Mankiewicz concept, based on Ian Fleming novel's “gold-plated, long-barrelled, single-action” .45 Colt Army Revolver (? See the book’s text), used with Francisco Paco “Pistols” Scaramanga’s personally machined bullets, featuring a heavy, soft (24 carat!) gold core, jacketed with silver and dum-dum cross-cut at their tips
**
*A Cigarette Case becomes a Golden Gun Grip
*A Cigarette Lighter becomes a Golden Gun Chamber
*A Fountain Pen becomes a Golden Gun Barrel
*A Man’s Cufflink becomes a Golden Gun Trigger
**
The Man with the Golden Gun’s Film Props – Number Produced: 5
1st Version (Production Made): Peter Nelson’s Prototype
Case (Grip): Bears an “S” logo for “Scaramanga”
Lighter (Chamber): Built from two lighters
Design: Part balsa wood with a pin stuck through as connector
Other: The “S” logo appears on drawn versions of the gun in early film publicity materials only
Bullet: Gold with a silver-colored nose and large “007” engraving
*Sold at Christie’s Auction in December 2001 (Sale 275, Lot 9287)
2nd Version (Production Made): Peter Lamont and Ron Quelch’s “Design Zero”
* Made by “Supplier of Gentlemen’s Accessories” Colibri, fragile, dropped and damaged by the actor principals (!), stolen from a display in New York City in 1974
Lighter (Chamber): A modified Colibi Moletric 88 cigarette lighter, which model is shorter than the final, enhanced film prop
Pen (Barrel): Said to have used a Dunhill pen (but was a modified Waterman Plaque Or G Pen with a push-in cap)
Design: A square was applied for a planned “S” monogram, on one side
* Bert Luxford attempted to add special effects to this one (did not work, unused in final cut of film)
* One screen version pen was not modified and is shown writing with ink, Scaramanga’s “cellar note” for a wine reminiscent of a 1934 Mouton Rothschild
3rd Version (Screen Used “Gun No. 1”): From J.S. Rose, London Silversmith Firm
* The three Rose models combined design ideas from the EON team and Colibri
* Under close examination, the three Rose models showed slight differences in their appearance, however, they were quickly built, to meet the film’s production schedule
* Gun No. 1 was the “gadget version” which assembled/disassembled
* Gun No. 1 is still part of EON's prop archive
Case (Grip): Colibri, taken from the Lamont model with a new top locking mechanism added to connect to the lighter
Lighter (Chamber): Colibri, taken from the Lamont model with all internal parts removed and a sliding gun breech added
Pen (Barrel): J.S. Rose modified a Waterman pen to remove all internal components, adding an open barrel end and a removable cap to hide the barrel screw thread
Cufflink (Trigger): J.S. Rose made, gold-plated sterling silver
Design: Silver with gold plating
4th Version (Screen Used “Gun No. 2”): J.S. Rose, solid one-piece version
* For action scenes, wide shots and stunt scenes (Gun No. 2 has the most screen time of the three Rose guns)
* Lacks the logo and decorative elements of Gun No. 1
* Made from brass, as are the screen used “golden” bullets
* Stolen from Elstree Studios in 2008
5th Version (Screen Used “Gun No. 3”): J.S. Rose, solid version
* John Stears modified Gun No. 3 to fire squibs
* Gun No. 3 is visible on screen most in the assassination scenes outside the “Bottoms Up Club”
* Stolen from a 1975 exhibition
Gold “Dum-Dum” Bullet
* Engraved with a small number then sent to 007
* Other bullets were made for the production for Scaramanga’s Chunghwa “Case”, Scaramanga’s Belt Buckle and Lazar’s Warehouse
* A variety of large bullets were used for publicity purposes
SD (Steve Dymzo) Golden Guns
SD 1st Generation Gun - Number Produced: ?
Case (Grip): Lacks a ruby, and is perpendicular to the barrel (Case Lid: Superior finish, with a slanted "lid" when closed, although not given the appearance of a true lid)
Lighter (Chamber): Lacks a Colibri label
Pen (Barrel): Correct pen, with two-component pen barrel so sight may turn while attached to lighter, but pen clip is wrong (Pen Cap: Threaded cap that fits at pen base, and also, atop the gun barrel)
Cufflink (Trigger): Crude with a bare thread that screws to case only and does not secure the lighter (design choices were made from the variety of production models), licensed markings, 24-carat gold-plated metal, quite fragile, engraving is not painted in, “007” engraved case
Bullet: Longer than on other models, breechloader version
SD “Transition” Gun - Number Produced: About 7 Known Examples
Case (Grip): Lacks a ruby but has smoother, non-protruding, lines running down the case (Case Lid: Not slanted)
Design: “007” Case or Wood Plaques (?)
SD 2nd Generation Gun – Number Produced: 700 (?) including 1st and Transition Models (?)
Case (Grip): A spring-loaded locking clip holds the lighter in place (Case Lid: Hinge, and therefore, barrel slant, is too small, with the grip at an angle so that the hinge shows)
Cufflink (Trigger): Too long, trigger is stationary
Design: No license markings, a more accurate replica than the SD 1st Generation (remaining imperfections in design came from choices made from the wide variety of film production models), wood plaque for display, gun’s size is about 5% larger than SD's 1st Generation & Transition Models
Factory Entertainment Golden Guns
FE 1st Generation Gun (And “Signature Edition” Dual Autographed Guns) – Number Produced: 1,000 FE, 400 SE
Case (Grip): Excellent design with monogram square on one side (Case Lid: Also strong design, with hinge showing only a little)
Pen (Barrel): Pen Cap is a pseudo-threaded push-in cap, orange plug added for firearm regulations
Cufflink (Trigger): A spring-loaded trigger, but thread is too long and bar is incorrect
Design: Licensed item, and closest replica to date, cast and machined from aluminum and alloys with 18-carat gold plating, resembles most the version used to shoot Dr. Gibson, size is close to SD’s 2nd Generation, there is some fragility to parts and possible oxidization so owners should avoid overuse of assembly/disassembly/handling, the Colibri logo was left off for trademark reasons, gun weight is 14 ounces, an acrylic stand holds the gun upright inside an acrylic case
Bullet: Resin bullet that loads into lighter, early models with one bullet, later issues added more bullets
“Most Screen Accurate Hybrid” - Number Produced: 1
Case (Grip) FE 1st Gen
Lighter (Chamber): FE 1st Gen
Pen (Barrel): SD 1st Gen Pen, bored along its length to fit a FE 1st Gen lighter (Pen Cap: SD 1st Gen)
Cufflink (Trigger): SD 1st Gen
FE 2nd Generation Gun – Number to Be Produced: Limited to Maximum 2,000
Case (Grip): A raised line has been added to the case’s side with the flat “S” square, to resemble how the film prop looked to have opened
Lighter (Chamber): Screws are visible as lighter opens
Pen (Barrel): Removable thread cap on bottom, removable pen “gun sight” on top that may be rotated around gun to match film scenes with sight upside down, orange marking added to comply with firearms regulations
Cufflink (Trigger): Spring-bladed action, trigger no longer shows on hinge side
Design: Gun weight is 27 ounces, stores horizontally or vertically in a foam-lined, lacquered wood case, liner reverses for assembled or diassembled display
Bullet: Needs a more realistic ignition cap, loads into lighter’s breech chamber
https://www.jamesbondlifestyle.com/news/007-store-exclusive-no-time-die-safin-mask-magnet-and-keyring
This is just a magnet but I'm guessing we'll see a full-size before long.
The emphasis on “full size” if their Day of the Dead mask was anything to go by...
Yeah. I preordered and paid the deposit but have heard nothing since!
"No updates, we are still on track to ship in Fall of 2020 which runs between September and November 2020."
Well, from that response we do know that they're in the northern hemisphere! :007)
I guess it's finally on its way. Placed my order august last year and don't have a tracking # or any details yet, meanwhile a guy I spoke to on Twitter placed his order last April and already recieved his. Odd...
One is okay but the other had a cufflink screw issue, took ages to get in as it was far too stiff to the point where it actually cut the inside of my thumb open and when it did finally twist in all the way it doesn't lock any parts together so everything is loose, rattling and feels like it is going to fall apart. I don't think the lighter fits on the cigarette case properly either which may be part of it being loose. The pen clips are still flimsy and feel/look cheap and the breach section when pulled all the way out doesn't line up with the holes for the cufflink screw. Lastly the breach section tends to bend upwards quite a bit when locked in and isn't solid when extended.
I ordered from 007 store almost immediately after they became available a day early, bearing in mind I ordered them together I ended up with numbers 35 and 66. What number you get depending on whether you order first/early or not is a load of B.S.