When Stromberg shoots his long gun under the table at the end of the film. The special effects went
off a little bit too early in the chair Roger was sitting on.
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When Stromberg shoots his long gun under the table at the end of the film. The special effects went
off a little bit too early in the chair Roger was sitting on.
I think Lassie and Run Tin Tin did their own stunts too
What I want to know TP is... Do you do all your own joke work on this forum, or do you ever get a double in?... After all, some of them are pretty risque
Late one evening at SABS Thunderpussy let it slip that he has a team of writers working 'round the clock making up jokes for him. He employs a tight-knit group of 3-5 people at all times :v
Late one evening at SABS Thunderpussy let it slip that he has a team of writers working 'round the clock making up jokes for him. He employs a tight-knit group of 3-5 people at all times :v
I think I should've clarified that I'm not hoping for Bond to become stunt or action-oriented. To me, Bond is best when the story is the best, and when he's able to do more investigating and realistic espionage. Dr. No, FRWL, TB, CR, GE, FYEO, etc. What I was more trying to touch on with the Cruise comparison was that we see a 50+ year old man committed to fully embodying the character he's playing. Cruise does all of the stunt driving, stunt motorcycle riding, flies the helicopter, does the fight scenes, and he really is Ethan Hunt as far as those skills are concerned. I'd love to see Craig do the stunt driving, or motorcycle riding, or doing a skydiving or climbing sequence. The movie doesn't need to be action piece after action piece. I just think that when the action occurs, I'd like to see Craig clearly being the one who's doing it. You're able to do so much more with the camera and have less cuts when the actor is as capable as the character he's playing. I was worried that Craig doesn't seem as committed to being Bond as Cruise is to being Hunt skill-wise. Why wouldn't you want to learn how to do the stunt driving and stunt riding and skydiving?
I think I should've clarified that I'm not hoping for Bond to become stunt or action-oriented. To me, Bond is best when the story is the best, and when he's able to do more investigating and realistic espionage. Dr. No, FRWL, TB, CR, GE, FYEO, etc. What I was more trying to touch on with the Cruise comparison was that we see a 50+ year old man committed to fully embodying the character he's playing. Cruise does all of the stunt driving, stunt motorcycle riding, flies the helicopter, does the fight scenes, and he really is Ethan Hunt as far as those skills are concerned. I'd love to see Craig do the stunt driving, or motorcycle riding, or doing a skydiving or climbing sequence. The movie doesn't need to be action piece after action piece. I just think that when the action occurs, I'd like to see Craig clearly being the one who's doing it. You're able to do so much more with the camera and have less cuts when the actor is as capable as the character he's playing. I was worried that Craig doesn't seem as committed to being Bond as Cruise is to being Hunt skill-wise. Why wouldn't you want to learn how to do the stunt driving and stunt riding and skydiving?
Because as the great Sir Lawrence Olivier once said "Because it's called acting my dear". )
As has been previously stated, Craig has done more than his share of stunts. Cruise is actually the exception. Cruise is an adrenaline junkie and the stunts have also become a big part of his "brand" and on screen mystique. You take a highly derivative film with a basically uninteresting story like some of the MI films and many in the audience turn a blind eye because "Oh wow that's really him hanging from the chopper....this must be really special".
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The insurance company would never allow Craig to do anything anywhere near what Cruise does. The only reason Cruise can do it is because he makes his own films. He’s a pretty unique actor/producer in this respect, which is why no one else is doing it.
I think it's unfair to say that DC has 'hang ups' re stuntwork. As previously pointed out his physical commitment can't really be doubted. Cruise is a nut-job and a one off. The injury during Spectre did have an effect as it was more obvious on a couple of occasions that it was not him. If he was reluctant to do stunt work he possibly would not have sustained such a bad injury.
I think Craig/EON will go all out to show that he's not 'passed it'. Bond is Indeed best when using his smarts as well as his fists. Personally I'm looki g forward to a better balance. When required Bond is as Fleming said is 'tough and tenacious. Credibility is more important than who performs the action. What makes Craig good is that we believe that he could.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Strangely enough, even though Cruise does all the crazy stuff himself, I find Craig to be a more convincing hand to hand fighter....which may all come down to superior fight choreography by the Bond crew. But on a more gut level, while Craig is of average height, he appears much more physically imposing on the screen than Cruise who, while in amazing shape, always looks to be a 5'7" guy doing a nice job following the choreography and if the stunt guys really felt like it, they could crush him like a grape. Please don't take that as a knock on Cruise, in the broad scheme of things, he does a nice job of screen fighting.....just not as good as Craig in the Bond films IMO.
IMO, all the Bond actors were good screen fighters, even Roger had his moments. I think Craig and Connery were the best and were in some of the most iconic fight scenes ever put on film. Lazenby probably had the most natural ability but he didn't have as well choreographed fight scenes as Connery and Craig. Brosnan was good also and he did a great job of injecting his own Bond persona into the fights. They also did a nice job of designing the fights and physical stuff to match Brosnan's more wiry build.
Good point about Brosnan. I always thought his physique (at least in GE and TWINE) most-closely matched Fleming’s Bond’s. Lean and quick. Athletic, but not particularly muscled.
The combination of Bourne and comic book films has created this notion that a hero must be over-muscled and capable of fighting like a video game. This is a shame because it takes me out out of the story and makes me remember I’m watching a highly-choreographed scene featuring an actor that has trained his body for six + months to make a film. It was cool at first to see Bond adopt that style, but the novelty has worn off for me. It’s a far cry from Fleming’s lean, hardened killer who used his natural athletic ability and wits to survive his scrapes. Much more interesting and relatable.
Strangely enough, even though Cruise does all the crazy stuff himself, I find Craig to be a more convincing hand to hand fighter....which may all come down to superior fight choreography by the Bond crew. But on a more gut level, while Craig is of average height, he appears much more physically imposing on the screen than Cruise who, while in amazing shape, always looks to be a 5'7" guy doing a nice job following the choreography and if the stunt guys really felt like it, they could crush him like a grape. Please don't take that as a knock on Cruise, in the broad scheme of things, he does a nice job of screen fighting.....just not as good as Craig in the Bond films IMO.
IMO, all the Bond actors were good screen fighters, even Roger had his moments. I think Craig and Connery were the best and were in some of the most iconic fight scenes ever put on film. Lazenby probably had the most natural ability but he didn't have as well choreographed fight scenes as Connery and Craig. Brosnan was good also and he did a great job of injecting his own Bond persona into the fights. They also did a nice job of designing the fights and physical stuff to match Brosnan's more wiry build.
Yes indeed, Brozzer is underrated in this respect.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Good point about Brosnan. I always thought his physique (at least in GE and TWINE) most-closely matched Fleming’s Bond’s. Lean and quick. Athletic, but not particularly muscled.
The combination of Bourne and comic book films has created this notion that a hero must be over-muscled and capable of fighting like a video game. This is a shame because it takes me out out of the story and makes me remember I’m watching a highly-choreographed scene featuring an actor that has trained his body for six + months to make a film. It was cool at first to see Bond adopt that style, but the novelty has worn off for me. It’s a far cry from Fleming’s lean, hardened killer who used his natural athletic ability and wits to survive his scrapes. Much more interesting and relatable.
Bang on the money. Bond is tough but not a Superman.
Of that of which we cannot speak we must pass over in silence- Ludwig Wittgenstein.
Good point about Brosnan. I always thought his physique (at least in GE and TWINE) most-closely matched Fleming’s Bond’s. Lean and quick. Athletic, but not particularly muscled.
The combination of Bourne and comic book films has created this notion that a hero must be over-muscled and capable of fighting like a video game. This is a shame because it takes me out out of the story and makes me remember I’m watching a highly-choreographed scene featuring an actor that has trained his body for six + months to make a film. It was cool at first to see Bond adopt that style, but the novelty has worn off for me. It’s a far cry from Fleming’s lean, hardened killer who used his natural athletic ability and wits to survive his scrapes. Much more interesting and relatable.
Wasn't Brosnan in GE the literary Bond's exact weight of 165 pounds?
Good point about Brosnan. I always thought his physique (at least in GE and TWINE) most-closely matched Fleming’s Bond’s. Lean and quick. Athletic, but not particularly muscled.
The combination of Bourne and comic book films has created this notion that a hero must be over-muscled and capable of fighting like a video game. This is a shame because it takes me out out of the story and makes me remember I’m watching a highly-choreographed scene featuring an actor that has trained his body for six + months to make a film. It was cool at first to see Bond adopt that style, but the novelty has worn off for me. It’s a far cry from Fleming’s lean, hardened killer who used his natural athletic ability and wits to survive his scrapes. Much more interesting and relatable.
Wasn't Brosnan in GE the literary Bond's exact weight of 165 pounds?
I think that’s right. And the fight with 006 at the end is right up there with the best in the series.
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off a little bit too early in the chair Roger was sitting on.
Late one evening at SABS Thunderpussy let it slip that he has a team of writers working 'round the clock making up jokes for him. He employs a tight-knit group of 3-5 people at all times :v
Perhaps this Mitchell & Webb sketch might be of interest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cazkHAHiPU
Because as the great Sir Lawrence Olivier once said "Because it's called acting my dear".
As has been previously stated, Craig has done more than his share of stunts. Cruise is actually the exception. Cruise is an adrenaline junkie and the stunts have also become a big part of his "brand" and on screen mystique. You take a highly derivative film with a basically uninteresting story like some of the MI films and many in the audience turn a blind eye because "Oh wow that's really him hanging from the chopper....this must be really special".
I think Craig/EON will go all out to show that he's not 'passed it'. Bond is Indeed best when using his smarts as well as his fists. Personally I'm looki g forward to a better balance. When required Bond is as Fleming said is 'tough and tenacious. Credibility is more important than who performs the action. What makes Craig good is that we believe that he could.
IMO, all the Bond actors were good screen fighters, even Roger had his moments. I think Craig and Connery were the best and were in some of the most iconic fight scenes ever put on film. Lazenby probably had the most natural ability but he didn't have as well choreographed fight scenes as Connery and Craig. Brosnan was good also and he did a great job of injecting his own Bond persona into the fights. They also did a nice job of designing the fights and physical stuff to match Brosnan's more wiry build.
The combination of Bourne and comic book films has created this notion that a hero must be over-muscled and capable of fighting like a video game. This is a shame because it takes me out out of the story and makes me remember I’m watching a highly-choreographed scene featuring an actor that has trained his body for six + months to make a film. It was cool at first to see Bond adopt that style, but the novelty has worn off for me. It’s a far cry from Fleming’s lean, hardened killer who used his natural athletic ability and wits to survive his scrapes. Much more interesting and relatable.
Yes indeed, Brozzer is underrated in this respect.
Bang on the money. Bond is tough but not a Superman.
I think that’s right. And the fight with 006 at the end is right up there with the best in the series.