Goldeneye 25 Project

Alex1995

Hi all

Here a cool and really interesting project that run for couple years ! As big fan of GE64 and GE in general im following the progress with interest!



Some members are the same who made Goldeneye source
https://www.thebondbulletin.com/exclusive-first-look-at-upcoming-goldeneye-25-videogame/
https://www.onlysp.com/goldeneye-25-remake/

They just posted a new Q/A session -{
https://youtu.be/nF98xQU_PY4

Cheers
-François

urhash

Annnnnd they’ve been given a cease and desist....

JTM

urhash wrote:

Annnnnd they’ve been given a cease and desist....

Damn that’s a shame, their gameplay demo vids have looked awesome!

frommeyer

GE25 notwithstanding, what's the rights status of Goldeneye N64? Is it a confused mess or relatively straightforward? I only ask because I wonder why MGM wouldn't let these guys develop their remaster, put a price tag on it, and reap the profits?

emtiem

Yes it's very sad, but ah well, not to be. They did look like they were doing some lovely and impressive work. The soundtrack sounded great too: very Serra.

QuantumofSolange

frommeyer wrote:

GE25 notwithstanding, what's the rights status of Goldeneye N64? Is it a confused mess or relatively straightforward? I only ask because I wonder why MGM wouldn't let these guys develop their remaster, put a price tag on it, and reap the profits?

This was my first thought. They've recreated a beloved classic off their own backs and brought it into the modern age, surely if they slap the official logo, Brosnan's mug and other signs of authenticity they'd have quite the cash cow.

It would certainly fill the void any Bond gaming fan currently feels. To my knowledge there is no other Bond gaming projects ongoing at this point in time so why not utilise the popularity of this one to drum up new interest in the franchise and/or reinvigorate Bond videogames.

Perhaps we can enlist any well connected AJB members to lobby the important folks to achieve this.

Or, more likely, I'll dig out my N64 for a blast and have to settle for that.

SpectreOfDefeat

"It would certainly fill the void any Bond gaming fan currently feels. To my knowledge there is no other Bond gaming projects ongoing at this point in time so why not utilise the popularity of this one to drum up new interest in the franchise and/or reinvigorate Bond videogames."


My guess is there are three factors stopping a new 'proper' Bond game for consoles:


1) The terrible critical and commercial reception of 007 Legends, which makes Eon wary of getting their fingers burnt again;


2) Eon wanting to concentrate on films rather than spreading their resources too thinly, into projects which might be less successful;


3) Sales figures. This is the big one. While the earlier Craig console games sold rather well, with Quantum of Solace selling over 3.78 million units and GoldenEye 007 selling over 3.16 million, from then on the sales began to fall. Blood Stone sold only 1.21 million and 007 Legends an unimpressive 0.78 million (less than half a million sold on each competing console system for Legends.) A new Bond game would need to be marketed strongly in a crammed console shooter/action market, competing with CoD, etc. Is this really worth the time and effort for Eon?


Those are my thoughts on why we haven't seen a new Bond game lately...

frommeyer

SpectreOfDefeat wrote:

Is this really worth the time and effort for Eon?

I agree with everything you've said. I'd only point out that there's vast amounts of money in video games. Goldeneye 64 is one of the most beloved video games of all time. If they combined a great game with the 007 brand that will be a hit. I don't think there's any doubt that everyone *wants* a good Bond game. There just hasn't been a great Bond game since 1997. Nightfire was ok. But everything else has been below average.

I'd point to the PS4 Spider-Man game. A similar kind of situation. The game wasn't a sequel. Wasn't even a launch title. It was just a well made game using a well known property. That game made over a billion dollars. Sony/Marvel invested the cash to secure a great a developer. Which, as I understand it, is the single most important step in making a good game. Then, of course, allowing the time and budget to that developer. I'll overestimate the numbers: call it 400 million in production and advertising costs. That's more than 600 million in profit. To say nothing of potential mircosales within the game.

All of this to say, yes, it absolutely *could* be worth their time. They just need to put in the money to develop something more advanced than another shooter clone with James Bond skins.

TonyDP

The cease and desist order came from EON/Danjaq so they were obviously uncomfortable about the use of the James Bond character and likeness despite the fact that other major IP holders are ok with these kinds of projects as long as they are released for free (which was the plan here). The fact that they waited two years before making this move feels somewhat sleazy to me but who knows, maybe they were just clueless to the game's development. The irony is that Goldeneye 25 was shaping up to be a quality title while most of the official Bond games released after Goldeneye were largely forgettable and often inferior copies of more successful gaming franchises.

The developers have said that the project will continue but that all ties to James Bond will obviously be removed. They have already renamed it to a more generic spy title and this will also free them up to release the game on sites like Steam and possibly even do a console port.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-08-11-after-years-of-development-the-goldeneye-25-fan-remake-just-got-lawyered

Septimus-Prime

There's another remake, Unreal Engine 4....I bet it'll be canceled too. I pray it can come out, just don't release news before it's out, make it after it comes out!

Asp9mm

Septimus-Prime wrote:

.......just don't release news before it's out, make it after it comes out!

Well you messed that up