Re the Skyfall lodge scarf... has anybody who owns the original made a comparison to the NP offering? Would appreciate your insight.
Additionally, I guess the original Skyfall and Spectre items are no longer available without the branding? I know it's just me, but I do cringe a little if I see a "007" tag in a clothing item. I find it cheapens the item, like a noveltly t-shirt (and I do own a couple of novelty t-shirts, but...).
I am not a fan of the 007 branding on the clothes or the packaging! That being said I'd probably ask N.Peal to make my roll neck with out the 007 label and to use standard packaging assuming they would allow that. I know to some it may seem a bit silly to some but I like my branding to subtle.
Re the Skyfall lodge scarf... has anybody who owns the original made a comparison to the NP offering? Would appreciate your insight.
Additionally, I guess the original Skyfall and Spectre items are no longer available without the branding? I know it's just me, but I do cringe a little if I see a "007" tag in a clothing item. I find it cheapens the item, like a noveltly t-shirt (and I do own a couple of novelty t-shirts, but...).
I am not a fan of the 007 branding on the clothes or the packaging! That being said I'd probably ask N.Peal to make my roll neck with out the 007 label and to use standard packaging assuming they would allow that. I know to some it may seem a bit silly to some but I like my branding to subtle.
The 007 label is hidden on the inside, and it is tiny. You can't get more subtle than that. The 007 label is not visible like on the Orlebar Brown items. You could easily remove the label if you want to.
Re the Skyfall lodge scarf... has anybody who owns the original made a comparison to the NP offering? Would appreciate your insight.
Additionally, I guess the original Skyfall and Spectre items are no longer available without the branding? I know it's just me, but I do cringe a little if I see a "007" tag in a clothing item. I find it cheapens the item, like a noveltly t-shirt (and I do own a couple of novelty t-shirts, but...).
I am not a fan of the 007 branding on the clothes or the packaging! That being said I'd probably ask N.Peal to make my roll neck with out the 007 label and to use standard packaging assuming they would allow that. I know to some it may seem a bit silly to some but I like my branding to subtle.
The 007 label is hidden on the inside, and it is tiny. You can't get more subtle than that. The 007 label is not visible like on the Orlebar Brown items. You could easily remove the label if you want to.
I should have rephrased that better but I'd rather not have the label there at all and the subtle part was directed towards the packaging but I see your point.
I think I am going to hold back. A lot of these items seem like color variations of their core collection with the 007 label added.
The Goldfinger polo's sleeves are too long for my taste. I hoped that maybe it was just a bit too long on David but it is long on their model as well. A 60s aesthetic for sure but I prefer mid-bicep polos. At this price range, I don't want to compromise.
I am tempted by the Roger Moore Turtleneck but I can get an alternative from a brand like Sunspel for half the cost. Still, it's high quality cashmere and a great item for whoever ends up buying it. Sunspel seems to be my sweet spot. Quality is really good and the prices are what I am more comfortable with. They are no where near the marketers of a company like Orlebar Brown but that pays off for me since the prices are lower.
I am going on my honeymoon to England next year so maybe my frugalness by passing on the OB and Npeal collection will pay off, since I'd like a trip to Turnbull & Asser and Mason & Sons.
Appreciate all the honesty Matt. Takes integrity to flat out say you wouldn't buy something a brand provided you for free when asked. -{
I am not a fan of the 007 branding on the clothes or the packaging! That being said I'd probably ask N.Peal to make my roll neck with out the 007 label and to use standard packaging assuming they would allow that. I know to some it may seem a bit silly to some but I like my branding to subtle.
The 007 label is hidden on the inside, and it is tiny. You can't get more subtle than that. The 007 label is not visible like on the Orlebar Brown items. You could easily remove the label if you want to.
I should have rephrased that better but I'd rather not have the label there at all and the subtle part was directed towards the packaging but I see your point.
I'm curious to know why the 007 branding bothers you. I'm not a fan of how Orlebar Brown put a 007 logo on the outside of their garments, but labelling inside a garment has no effect on me unless I can feel an itchy label against my skin. I especially like having the 007 box in my collection.
I think I am going to hold back. A lot of these items seem like color variations of their core collection with the 007 label added.
The Goldfinger polo's sleeves are too long for my taste. I hoped that maybe it was just a bit too long on David but it is long on their model as well. A 60s aesthetic for sure but I prefer mid-bicep polos. At this price range, I don't want to compromise.
I am tempted by the Roger Moore Turtleneck but I can get an alternative from a brand like Sunspel for half the cost. Still, it's high quality cashmere and a great item for whoever ends up buying it. Sunspel seems to be my sweet spot. Quality is really good and the prices are what I am more comfortable with. They are no where near the marketers of a company like Orlebar Brown but that pays off for me since the prices are lower.
I am going on my honeymoon to England next year so maybe my frugalness by passing on the OB and Npeal collection will pay off, since I'd like a trip to Turnbull & Asser and Mason & Sons.
Appreciate all the honesty Matt. Takes integrity to flat out say you wouldn't buy something a brand provided you for free when asked. -{
They do custom orders if your worried about lengths and fit etc. I know a few people here used this service
I think I am going to hold back. A lot of these items seem like color variations of their core collection with the 007 label added.
The Goldfinger polo's sleeves are too long for my taste. I hoped that maybe it was just a bit too long on David but it is long on their model as well. A 60s aesthetic for sure but I prefer mid-bicep polos. At this price range, I don't want to compromise.
I am tempted by the Roger Moore Turtleneck but I can get an alternative from a brand like Sunspel for half the cost. Still, it's high quality cashmere and a great item for whoever ends up buying it. Sunspel seems to be my sweet spot. Quality is really good and the prices are what I am more comfortable with. They are no where near the marketers of a company like Orlebar Brown but that pays off for me since the prices are lower.
I am going on my honeymoon to England next year so maybe my frugalness by passing on the OB and Npeal collection will pay off, since I'd like a trip to Turnbull & Asser and Mason & Sons.
Appreciate all the honesty Matt. Takes integrity to flat out say you wouldn't buy something a brand provided you for free when asked. -{
They do custom orders if your worried about lengths and fit etc. I know a few people here used this service
I didn't know that! They told me at the New York store that they can alter items, which impressed me, though custom orders would be ideal. With the items I have tried on I was very impressed with the fits. Most knitwear is awful on me.
Just received my DAD roll neck, and I couldn't be happier. As some of you may know, it's kind of a holy grail piece for me, so when N Peal made their version of it, I was stoked.
Just received my DAD roll neck, and I couldn't be happier. As some of you may know, it's kind of a holy grail piece for me, so when N Peal made their version of it, I was stoked.
That's a good feeling! We can get a little self-centered about this stuff, and while much of it isn't for me, knowing that one of these pieces means that much to another fan makes me happy.
The 007 label is hidden on the inside, and it is tiny. You can't get more subtle than that. The 007 label is not visible like on the Orlebar Brown items. You could easily remove the label if you want to.
I should have rephrased that better but I'd rather not have the label there at all and the subtle part was directed towards the packaging but I see your point.
I'm curious to know why the 007 branding bothers you. I'm not a fan of how Orlebar Brown put a 007 logo on the outside of their garments, but labelling inside a garment has no effect on me unless I can feel an itchy label against my skin. I especially like having the 007 box in my collection.
Just received my DAD roll neck, and I couldn't be happier. As some of you may know, it's kind of a holy grail piece for me, so when N Peal made their version of it, I was stoked.
Now that really suits you Blair! Happy you found yourself a grail piece
Just received my DAD roll neck, and I couldn't be happier. As some of you may know, it's kind of a holy grail piece for me, so when N Peal made their version of it, I was stoked.
Now that really suits you Blair! Happy you found yourself a grail piece
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very sharp Blair , not sure it will suit my neck )
I'm going for the Goldeneye one instead after the Goldfinger black set arrives.
Treading carefully with Jo
Just received my DAD roll neck, and I couldn't be happier. As some of you may know, it's kind of a holy grail piece for me, so when N Peal made their version of it, I was stoked.
Now that really suits you Blair! Happy you found yourself a grail piece
very sharp Blair , not sure it will suit my neck )
I'm going for the Goldeneye one instead after the Goldfinger black set arrives.
Treading carefully with Jo
Does anyone have a sense for how this stuff is selling? I know a number of (non-AJB) people who were interested, but ultimately passed due to the prices.
Does anyone have a sense for how this stuff is selling? I know a number of (non-AJB) people who were interested, but ultimately passed due to the prices.
I saw someone in the New York store buy the Goldfinger jacket, and he didn't even know it was now part of their Bond collection. He thought the Bond connection was cool but ultimately didn't care, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their regular customers who aren't Bond fans buy the Bond stuff. The lower priced items like the gloves are selling well, seeing how a few sizes are already sold out. We're not seeing items selling out in the way the OB collection did, but we don't know how much stock there is.
Does anyone have a sense for how this stuff is selling? I know a number of (non-AJB) people who were interested, but ultimately passed due to the prices.
I saw someone in the New York store buy the Goldfinger jacket, and he didn't even know it was now part of their Bond collection. He thought the Bond connection was cool but ultimately didn't care, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their regular customers who aren't Bond fans buy the Bond stuff. The lower priced items like the gloves are selling well, seeing how a few sizes are already sold out. We're not seeing items selling out in the way the OB collection did, but we don't know how much stock there is.
In no way is this meant as a knock against N.Peal. But I think I can understand why the OB collection sold as quickly as it did. They were the first "bigger' brand to capitalize on that Bond connection beyond the 1 or 2 products that showed up in the films. And they threw a lot of money and marketing muscle behind that promotion. Then there's the Bond looks that inspired their collection. That GF onesie grabbed everyone's attention from the start. And the Roger Moore safari jacket immediately connected with what most people identify as his "signature style". Plus safari jackets are in fashion right now, so the timing was right. The whole "Bond at the Beach" Thunderball collection tied neatly into OB's own story as a lifestyle brand and those Connery looks are pretty well known. Put it all together and you get a sort marketing "perfect storm".
IMHO, N.Peal has gone a more sophisticated route, choosing inspiration from lesser known Bond looks and more subtle design nods to the originals. In the end, it's difficult to argue that a Dalton TLD look or a Brosnan sweater is going to click with buyers the same way a Connery TB look will.
Again, not a criticism of N.Peal's choices. Personally I prefer the direction they went over what OB offered. Over time, can see getting way more use out of a nice cashmere sweater than a terry onesie.
Does anyone have a sense for how this stuff is selling? I know a number of (non-AJB) people who were interested, but ultimately passed due to the prices.
I saw someone in the New York store buy the Goldfinger jacket, and he didn't even know it was now part of their Bond collection. He thought the Bond connection was cool but ultimately didn't care, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their regular customers who aren't Bond fans buy the Bond stuff. The lower priced items like the gloves are selling well, seeing how a few sizes are already sold out. We're not seeing items selling out in the way the OB collection did, but we don't know how much stock there is.
In no way is this meant as a knock against N.Peal. But I think I can understand why the OB collection sold as quickly as it did. They were the first "bigger' brand to capitalize on that Bond connection beyond the 1 or 2 products that showed up in the films. And they threw a lot of money and marketing muscle behind that promotion. Then there's the Bond looks that inspired their collection. That GF onesie grabbed everyone's attention from the start. And the Roger Moore safari jacket immediately connected with what most people identify as his "signature style". Plus safari jackets are in fashion right now, so the timing was right. The whole "Bond at the Beach" Thunderball collection tied neatly into OB's own story as a lifestyle brand and those Connery looks are pretty well known. Put it all together and you get a sort marketing "perfect storm".
IMHO, N.Peal has gone a more sophisticated route, choosing inspiration from lesser known Bond looks and more subtle design nods to the originals. In the end, it's difficult to argue that a Dalton TLD look or a Brosnan sweater is going to click with buyers the same way a Connery TB look will.
Again, not a criticism of N.Peal's choices. Personally I prefer the direction they went over what OB offered. Over time, can see getting way more use out of a nice cashmere sweater than a terry onesie.
The OB clothes more fun, while the N.Peal clothes are more useful for a larger number of people. But when it comes to luxury items, I think you're right that fun sells better.
I bought three of the OB items (Thunderball polo, DAF terrycloth shirt, AVTAK workout jacket), all at a modest discount through brick and mortar retailers. I needed a wool polo, so that was easy. The other two items were just so distinctive, fun, and unlike anything I normally wear, I had to pull the trigger. My wife doesn't think they are "me" at all which is part of the enjoyment.
The N.Peal stuff is on a different level. Sure there are some novelty items, but these are high-quality goods made to N.Peal's standards. You can't find better knitwear. It's expensive because their stuff is always expensive. Maybe some of the sweaters are $100 or $150 more than their non-Bond counterparts. But I see these items as staples intended to last a lifetime (to the extent that knitwear lasts).
Bond connection aside, I could see myself wearing almost any of these designs for the foreseeable future. So I'm not sure how N.Peal will evaluate this campaign, but I couldn't be happier with what they have tried to do. To me it definitely feels like a success.
The N.Peal is selling beyond expectations that they had. I think we need to be careful about speculation around how fast one sells over the others because limited sizes and stock is a marketing strategy. It creates, in many cases, rabid FOMO and it's a technique used by many brands. Then suddenly a month later there is stock in all sizes.
I really like both OB and NPeal so this isn't to pit one against the other...
I do think it's worth to note that AJB and even the known Bond Community we love and adore are sometimes small percentages of the purchasers of these items. We are a passionate and fruitful bunch but just sharing some facts here. And to Matt's point I do know that many people bought the OB 007 line not caring it was James Bond....the same will be true of N.Peal.
The N.Peal is selling beyond expectations that they had.
Interesting. I’m glad they’re having success with it because it’s a cool concept. The thing I appreciated about both the N Peal and OB lines is that they weren’t just focused on Craig’s Bond, despite being Craig Bond brands. They really spread it around.
I think N Peal’s prices are easily more justifiable than OB’s, but I think Matt is right about a lot of the sales going to “usual customers” as opposed to Bond fans. Like most people, cashmere knitwear is a true luxury for me. It’s incredibly impractical because it’s so delicate, yet so expensive. Even the nicest cashmere, which I consider N Peal to be, is prone to pilling and other types of wear that merino or heartier wools can more readily withstand. But if you’re inclined to regularly shop at N Peal despite this, I can see how these unique Bond items could be appealing on their own merits and not for the reasons they interest us.
The N.Peal is selling beyond expectations that they had.
Interesting. I’m glad they’re having success with it because it’s a cool concept. The thing I appreciated about both the N Peal and OB lines is that they weren’t just focused on Craig’s Bond, despite being Craig Bond brands. They really spread it around.
I think N Peal’s prices are easily more justifiable than OB’s, but I think Matt is right about a lot of the sales going to “usual customers” as opposed to Bond fans. Like most people, cashmere knitwear is a true luxury for me. It’s incredibly impractical because it’s so delicate, yet so expensive. Even the nicest cashmere, which I consider N Peal to be, is prone to pilling and other types of wear that merino or heartier wools can more readily withstand. But if you’re inclined to regularly shop at N Peal despite this, I can see how these unique Bond items could be appealing on their own merits and not for the reasons they interest us.
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I am not a fan of the 007 branding on the clothes or the packaging! That being said I'd probably ask N.Peal to make my roll neck with out the 007 label and to use standard packaging assuming they would allow that. I know to some it may seem a bit silly to some but I like my branding to subtle.
The 007 label is hidden on the inside, and it is tiny. You can't get more subtle than that. The 007 label is not visible like on the Orlebar Brown items. You could easily remove the label if you want to.
I should have rephrased that better but I'd rather not have the label there at all and the subtle part was directed towards the packaging but I see your point.
The Goldfinger polo's sleeves are too long for my taste. I hoped that maybe it was just a bit too long on David but it is long on their model as well. A 60s aesthetic for sure but I prefer mid-bicep polos. At this price range, I don't want to compromise.
I am tempted by the Roger Moore Turtleneck but I can get an alternative from a brand like Sunspel for half the cost. Still, it's high quality cashmere and a great item for whoever ends up buying it. Sunspel seems to be my sweet spot. Quality is really good and the prices are what I am more comfortable with. They are no where near the marketers of a company like Orlebar Brown but that pays off for me since the prices are lower.
I am going on my honeymoon to England next year so maybe my frugalness by passing on the OB and Npeal collection will pay off, since I'd like a trip to Turnbull & Asser and Mason & Sons.
Appreciate all the honesty Matt. Takes integrity to flat out say you wouldn't buy something a brand provided you for free when asked. -{
I'm curious to know why the 007 branding bothers you. I'm not a fan of how Orlebar Brown put a 007 logo on the outside of their garments, but labelling inside a garment has no effect on me unless I can feel an itchy label against my skin. I especially like having the 007 box in my collection.
They do custom orders if your worried about lengths and fit etc. I know a few people here used this service
I didn't know that! They told me at the New York store that they can alter items, which impressed me, though custom orders would be ideal. With the items I have tried on I was very impressed with the fits. Most knitwear is awful on me.
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That's a good feeling! We can get a little self-centered about this stuff, and while much of it isn't for me, knowing that one of these pieces means that much to another fan makes me happy.
I'm just not a fan of it.
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I'm going for the Goldeneye one instead after the Goldfinger black set arrives.
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Ordered the skyfall sweater Friday and it arrived this morning. Although I expect they already had built up stock having been previously available.
I ordered the Skyfall scarf and it has not been dispatched yet. I’m in the eastern U.S.
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I saw someone in the New York store buy the Goldfinger jacket, and he didn't even know it was now part of their Bond collection. He thought the Bond connection was cool but ultimately didn't care, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their regular customers who aren't Bond fans buy the Bond stuff. The lower priced items like the gloves are selling well, seeing how a few sizes are already sold out. We're not seeing items selling out in the way the OB collection did, but we don't know how much stock there is.
In no way is this meant as a knock against N.Peal. But I think I can understand why the OB collection sold as quickly as it did. They were the first "bigger' brand to capitalize on that Bond connection beyond the 1 or 2 products that showed up in the films. And they threw a lot of money and marketing muscle behind that promotion. Then there's the Bond looks that inspired their collection. That GF onesie grabbed everyone's attention from the start. And the Roger Moore safari jacket immediately connected with what most people identify as his "signature style". Plus safari jackets are in fashion right now, so the timing was right. The whole "Bond at the Beach" Thunderball collection tied neatly into OB's own story as a lifestyle brand and those Connery looks are pretty well known. Put it all together and you get a sort marketing "perfect storm".
IMHO, N.Peal has gone a more sophisticated route, choosing inspiration from lesser known Bond looks and more subtle design nods to the originals. In the end, it's difficult to argue that a Dalton TLD look or a Brosnan sweater is going to click with buyers the same way a Connery TB look will.
Again, not a criticism of N.Peal's choices. Personally I prefer the direction they went over what OB offered. Over time, can see getting way more use out of a nice cashmere sweater than a terry onesie.
The OB clothes more fun, while the N.Peal clothes are more useful for a larger number of people. But when it comes to luxury items, I think you're right that fun sells better.
The N.Peal stuff is on a different level. Sure there are some novelty items, but these are high-quality goods made to N.Peal's standards. You can't find better knitwear. It's expensive because their stuff is always expensive. Maybe some of the sweaters are $100 or $150 more than their non-Bond counterparts. But I see these items as staples intended to last a lifetime (to the extent that knitwear lasts).
Bond connection aside, I could see myself wearing almost any of these designs for the foreseeable future. So I'm not sure how N.Peal will evaluate this campaign, but I couldn't be happier with what they have tried to do. To me it definitely feels like a success.
I really like both OB and NPeal so this isn't to pit one against the other...
I do think it's worth to note that AJB and even the known Bond Community we love and adore are sometimes small percentages of the purchasers of these items. We are a passionate and fruitful bunch but just sharing some facts here. And to Matt's point I do know that many people bought the OB 007 line not caring it was James Bond....the same will be true of N.Peal.
Interesting. I’m glad they’re having success with it because it’s a cool concept. The thing I appreciated about both the N Peal and OB lines is that they weren’t just focused on Craig’s Bond, despite being Craig Bond brands. They really spread it around.
I think N Peal’s prices are easily more justifiable than OB’s, but I think Matt is right about a lot of the sales going to “usual customers” as opposed to Bond fans. Like most people, cashmere knitwear is a true luxury for me. It’s incredibly impractical because it’s so delicate, yet so expensive. Even the nicest cashmere, which I consider N Peal to be, is prone to pilling and other types of wear that merino or heartier wools can more readily withstand. But if you’re inclined to regularly shop at N Peal despite this, I can see how these unique Bond items could be appealing on their own merits and not for the reasons they interest us.
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