What Bothers me and do Not know if thats the same for others here is that these are far away from really having anything to do with the actual piece. From the previous Collection you could really tell what Bond piece these were. These are so much free Style Interpretation and so less iconic That the only real Bond connection is the 007 Label for which you get Charged twice the price.
As they don't seem to be too bothered about screen-accurate, I might well buy a recreation of the awesome Lotus 007 crew jackets from FYEO! I love them
The Moonraker sweater and TMWTGG shirt would both be better with a larger collar. For a company willing to go all in on a terry cloth onesie, they really chickened out on the collars.
The Moonraker sweater and TMWTGG shirt would both be better with a larger collar. For a company willing to go all in on a terry cloth onesie, they really chickened out on the collars.
I completely agree. I know it's just meant to be their "take" on the screen worn items, but they could have made an attempt to get closer with the collar...yes the collar on the actual MR polo is very 70’s (massive) and it probably wouldn’t have been fashionable to go that large with the repro, but OB could have made there’s a little bigger. Scrolling through the images on the MR knit polo's product page and seeing the actual polo next to OB's makes the difference really obvious. Also, small and thin knit collars like that generally go to s**t (edges get all wavy) after a short amount of time, even with careful washing.
Annd there's also no pocket on OB's...but I'm willing to forgive that.
The Moonraker sweater and TMWTGG shirt would both be better with a larger collar. For a company willing to go all in on a terry cloth onesie, they really chickened out on the collars.
I completely agree. I know it's just meant to be their "take" on the screen worn items, but they could have made an attempt to get closer with the collar...yes the collar on the actual MR polo is very 70’s (massive) and it probably wouldn’t have been fashionable to go that large with the repro, but OB could have made there’s a little bigger. Scrolling through the images on the MR knit polo's product page and seeing the actual polo next to OB's makes the difference really obvious. Also, small and thin knit collars like that generally go to s**t (edges get all wavy) after a short amount of time, even with careful washing.
Annd there's also no pocket on OB's...but I'm willing to forgive that.
Roger's shirt is a proper shirt made of a cotton or cotton/poly jersey knit. It is constructed like a shirt rather than a polo, so it can take a large collar. OB went the more accessible approach of making it a wool polo-sweater. It's an entirely different type of piece that wouldn't work with a larger collar. For a collar that large it needs to be a shirt collar rather than a polo collar, but reinterpreting it as a true piece of knitwear rather than a shirt limited what they can do as far as screen-accurate details go. The sweater they made looks great, and it's certainly an accessible piece, but I would have been more excited if it were more like Roger's shirt. I may try to have a replica made of it some day in a non-black colour.
They are indeed! One cautionary note: the sleeves are much narrower than you might expect. If you have skinny biceps you’re okay. I exchanged a large for an extra large and my gorilla arms still lost circulation. I had to reluctantly sell mine.
As they don't seem to be too bothered about screen-accurate, I might well buy a recreation of the awesome Lotus 007 crew jackets from FYEO! I love them
Would love to find one of these or something close.
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chriscollins007North Somerset , England Posts: 1,158MI6 Agent
absolutely mate , possibly more NTTD pickings to spend on )
Still waiting for the TB shirt
I agree, Chris. Probably going for the Moonraker, possibly the blue Thunderball. I like the FYEO t shirt, but will save my pennies in case N Peal spring another collection for us blokes later this year. The quality is higher, but the prices are similar.
Not going to add anymore, you guys summoned it all up.
However I Was looking forward to the FYEO tshirt, liked the look and colour but yeah that price is mad.
Maybe Ob thought after the last collection went so well, they would go more luxury in cost
Might plunge for the moonraker but not now, i'll see in the winter.
The Moonraker sweater and TMWTGG shirt would both be better with a larger collar. For a company willing to go all in on a terry cloth onesie, they really chickened out on the collars.
I completely agree. I know it's just meant to be their "take" on the screen worn items, but they could have made an attempt to get closer with the collar...yes the collar on the actual MR polo is very 70’s (massive) and it probably wouldn’t have been fashionable to go that large with the repro, but OB could have made there’s a little bigger. Scrolling through the images on the MR knit polo's product page and seeing the actual polo next to OB's makes the difference really obvious. Also, small and thin knit collars like that generally go to s**t (edges get all wavy) after a short amount of time, even with careful washing.
Annd there's also no pocket on OB's...but I'm willing to forgive that.
Roger's shirt is a proper shirt made of a cotton or cotton/poly jersey knit. It is constructed like a shirt rather than a polo, so it can take a large collar. OB went the more accessible approach of making it a wool polo-sweater. It's an entirely different type of piece that wouldn't work with a larger collar. For a collar that large it needs to be a shirt collar rather than a polo collar, but reinterpreting it as a true piece of knitwear rather than a shirt limited what they can do as far as screen-accurate details go. The sweater they made looks great, and it's certainly an accessible piece, but I would have been more excited if it were more like Roger's shirt. I may try to have a replica made of it some day in a non-black colour.
I guess my point was that OB didn’t bother themselves with making accessible pieces last time around. Instead, they went for it with multiple terry cloth pieces and some other daring things like the AVTAK track jacket. Nothing in this collection feels as unique or special as some of those items. As a fan of Bond style, and of OB independently, surely I am the target audience?
As they don't seem to be too bothered about screen-accurate, I might well buy a recreation of the awesome Lotus 007 crew jackets from FYEO! I love them
Would love to find one of these or something close.
Something close would be okay, but I'd really want the massive logos on it!
I saw a hipster sort of guy wearing one in London once, I wondered if he'd picked it up from a charity shop or something as it has that kind of retro cool to it. I reckon it'd be worth loads of money though!
I completely agree. I know it's just meant to be their "take" on the screen worn items, but they could have made an attempt to get closer with the collar...yes the collar on the actual MR polo is very 70’s (massive) and it probably wouldn’t have been fashionable to go that large with the repro, but OB could have made there’s a little bigger. Scrolling through the images on the MR knit polo's product page and seeing the actual polo next to OB's makes the difference really obvious. Also, small and thin knit collars like that generally go to s**t (edges get all wavy) after a short amount of time, even with careful washing.
Annd there's also no pocket on OB's...but I'm willing to forgive that.
Roger's shirt is a proper shirt made of a cotton or cotton/poly jersey knit. It is constructed like a shirt rather than a polo, so it can take a large collar. OB went the more accessible approach of making it a wool polo-sweater. It's an entirely different type of piece that wouldn't work with a larger collar. For a collar that large it needs to be a shirt collar rather than a polo collar, but reinterpreting it as a true piece of knitwear rather than a shirt limited what they can do as far as screen-accurate details go. The sweater they made looks great, and it's certainly an accessible piece, but I would have been more excited if it were more like Roger's shirt. I may try to have a replica made of it some day in a non-black colour.
I guess my point was that OB didn’t bother themselves with making accessible pieces last time around. Instead, they went for it with multiple terry cloth pieces and some other daring things like the AVTAK track jacket. Nothing in this collection feels as unique or special as some of those items. As a fan of Bond style, and of OB independently, surely I am the target audience?
Maybe this collection shows that that approach didn't work too well for them last time and they're trying to sell a few more to their more usual customers?
I am baffled by their interpretation of the Thunderball Gingham check shirt. Why make the collar white? It looks absolutely nothing like the original shirt! ?:) Bizarre decision.
I am baffled by their interpretation of the Thunderball Gingham check shirt. Why make the collar white? It looks absolutely nothing like the original shirt! ?:) Bizarre decision.
But honestly who knows? Maybe they thought it would look too similar to their TB stripe shirt without the change?
OB also took some big liberties with their first run of "inspired by 007" items. The nearly electric blue Dr No toweling polo comes to mind.
What strikes me is that there is little here that's distinctive. I can buy a pink poplin shirt anywhere.
The issue with this line, IMO, is primarily the prices. There are a handful of things I might buy if they were just $100 cheaper. For instance, the FYEO V neck would still be expensive at $275. But at $375 it's in (outrageous) fashion designer territory. And OB isn't Tom Ford.
I'll be curious to watch the stock to see what moves. If we start seeing some of these pieces discounted, especially from third-party OB stockists, it will say a lot.
I think the white collar on the gingham shirt was OB's way of getting their signature towelling into the collection. They really love towelling, and this collection wouldn't be rightly theirs if it didn't have anything made of towelling.
The polo in Dr. No wasn't originally towelling, yet OB making it in towelling instead of pique gave it a touch of their own style.
OB also took some big liberties with their first run of "inspired by 007" items. The nearly electric blue Dr No toweling polo comes to mind.
What strikes me is that there is little here that's distinctive. I can buy a pink poplin shirt anywhere.
The issue with this line, IMO, is primarily the prices. There are a handful of things I might buy if they were just $100 cheaper. For instance, the FYEO V neck would still be expensive at $275. But at $375 it's in (outrageous) fashion designer territory. And OB isn't Tom Ford.
I'll be curious to watch the stock to see what moves. If we start seeing some of these pieces discounted, especially from third-party OB stockists, it will say a lot.
The US prices are beyond crazy.
The $375 FYEO v-neck popped out at me right away. Why silk? A silk blend at that for that price?
The piece I was looking forward to was the Octopussy harrington, but the price is again outrageous at $525. In close up it looks like a $99 jacket from Abercrombie & Fitch. Plus it's been "reimagined" into a slim fit jacket. Why get a blouson that doesn't blouse?
Honestly, OB has never fit me very well. L is usually too tight while XL is a baggy. I can't justify the price based on fit.
People Who complain about pricing need to remember that the OB brand caters to the luxury market. So yes their prices may not be affordable to everyone.
But in the same token, If I was to pay $375 for a silk tee, then it better be 100% silk , which is not even the case here. It’s 50% cotton and 50% silk. Same goes to OP jacket which looks cheaply made.
I only ordered the TB striped shirt , the only “iconic” piece in this run.
OB also took some big liberties with their first run of "inspired by 007" items. The nearly electric blue Dr No toweling polo comes to mind.
What strikes me is that there is little here that's distinctive. I can buy a pink poplin shirt anywhere.
The issue with this line, IMO, is primarily the prices. There are a handful of things I might buy if they were just $100 cheaper. For instance, the FYEO V neck would still be expensive at $275. But at $375 it's in (outrageous) fashion designer territory. And OB isn't Tom Ford.
I'll be curious to watch the stock to see what moves. If we start seeing some of these pieces discounted, especially from third-party OB stockists, it will say a lot.
The US prices are beyond crazy.
The $375 FYEO v-neck popped out at me right away. Why silk? A silk blend at that for that price?
The piece I was looking forward to was the Octopussy harrington, but the price is again outrageous at $525. In close up it looks like a $99 jacket from Abercrombie & Fitch. Plus it's been "reimagined" into a slim fit jacket. Why get a blouson that doesn't blouse?
Honestly, OB has never fit me very well. L is usually too tight while XL is a baggy. I can't justify the price based on fit.
People Who complain about pricing need to remember that the OB brand caters to the luxury market. So yes their prices may not be affordable to everyone.
I think what many of us are saying is that we *are* the luxury market (I've shopped in their Palm Beach store), and we still find the prices hard to defend. I've spent way too much on clothing in my life (thanks for nothing, AJB). And I'd really been hoping to see something in this line that was distinctive enough to justify a significant expenditure. The TMWTGG shirt might be that for me. It's unusual with those side adjusters.
The larger question is how Orlebar Brown is positioning itself going forward. I'd seen it roughly on a level with Sunspel. But maybe they think there's a market selling beachwear north of Sunspel prices. Good for them if it works out.
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I recommend for Orlebar Brown to do a re-issue of the most iconic pieces and keep them in stock around the year.
I'd like to see the same. They'll still make $$$ from those best sellers, and fans will be much happier to purchase.
I agree, the striped shirt was what I was waiting for and it arrived today. Very nice shirt to be fair.
I completely agree. I know it's just meant to be their "take" on the screen worn items, but they could have made an attempt to get closer with the collar...yes the collar on the actual MR polo is very 70’s (massive) and it probably wouldn’t have been fashionable to go that large with the repro, but OB could have made there’s a little bigger. Scrolling through the images on the MR knit polo's product page and seeing the actual polo next to OB's makes the difference really obvious. Also, small and thin knit collars like that generally go to s**t (edges get all wavy) after a short amount of time, even with careful washing.
Annd there's also no pocket on OB's...but I'm willing to forgive that.
Roger's shirt is a proper shirt made of a cotton or cotton/poly jersey knit. It is constructed like a shirt rather than a polo, so it can take a large collar. OB went the more accessible approach of making it a wool polo-sweater. It's an entirely different type of piece that wouldn't work with a larger collar. For a collar that large it needs to be a shirt collar rather than a polo collar, but reinterpreting it as a true piece of knitwear rather than a shirt limited what they can do as far as screen-accurate details go. The sweater they made looks great, and it's certainly an accessible piece, but I would have been more excited if it were more like Roger's shirt. I may try to have a replica made of it some day in a non-black colour.
These are great:
https://us.masonandsons.com/collections/camp-collar-shirts-1/products/camp-collar-short-sleeve-shirt-1
They are indeed! One cautionary note: the sleeves are much narrower than you might expect. If you have skinny biceps you’re okay. I exchanged a large for an extra large and my gorilla arms still lost circulation. I had to reluctantly sell mine.
Would love to find one of these or something close.
Still waiting for the TB shirt
I guess my point was that OB didn’t bother themselves with making accessible pieces last time around. Instead, they went for it with multiple terry cloth pieces and some other daring things like the AVTAK track jacket. Nothing in this collection feels as unique or special as some of those items. As a fan of Bond style, and of OB independently, surely I am the target audience?
Something close would be okay, but I'd really want the massive logos on it!
I saw a hipster sort of guy wearing one in London once, I wondered if he'd picked it up from a charity shop or something as it has that kind of retro cool to it. I reckon it'd be worth loads of money though!
Maybe this collection shows that that approach didn't work too well for them last time and they're trying to sell a few more to their more usual customers?
https://www.twitter.com/Clothesonfilm/status/1270772485181628417
Is there a dressing gown?
There was a Dr No robe in the last capsule release.
Bond: “I must be dreaming.”
I was thinking the same thing
But honestly who knows? Maybe they thought it would look too similar to their TB stripe shirt without the change?
To this ?
My sister used to wear something resembling this to primary school.
Truly horrendous. Mason & Sons must be laughing HARD.
What strikes me is that there is little here that's distinctive. I can buy a pink poplin shirt anywhere.
The issue with this line, IMO, is primarily the prices. There are a handful of things I might buy if they were just $100 cheaper. For instance, the FYEO V neck would still be expensive at $275. But at $375 it's in (outrageous) fashion designer territory. And OB isn't Tom Ford.
I'll be curious to watch the stock to see what moves. If we start seeing some of these pieces discounted, especially from third-party OB stockists, it will say a lot.
The polo in Dr. No wasn't originally towelling, yet OB making it in towelling instead of pique gave it a touch of their own style.
The US prices are beyond crazy.
The $375 FYEO v-neck popped out at me right away. Why silk? A silk blend at that for that price?
The piece I was looking forward to was the Octopussy harrington, but the price is again outrageous at $525. In close up it looks like a $99 jacket from Abercrombie & Fitch. Plus it's been "reimagined" into a slim fit jacket. Why get a blouson that doesn't blouse?
Honestly, OB has never fit me very well. L is usually too tight while XL is a baggy. I can't justify the price based on fit.
But in the same token, If I was to pay $375 for a silk tee, then it better be 100% silk , which is not even the case here. It’s 50% cotton and 50% silk. Same goes to OP jacket which looks cheaply made.
I only ordered the TB striped shirt , the only “iconic” piece in this run.
I think what many of us are saying is that we *are* the luxury market (I've shopped in their Palm Beach store), and we still find the prices hard to defend. I've spent way too much on clothing in my life (thanks for nothing, AJB). And I'd really been hoping to see something in this line that was distinctive enough to justify a significant expenditure. The TMWTGG shirt might be that for me. It's unusual with those side adjusters.
The larger question is how Orlebar Brown is positioning itself going forward. I'd seen it roughly on a level with Sunspel. But maybe they think there's a market selling beachwear north of Sunspel prices. Good for them if it works out.