Sorry, I disagree.
If even one hedgehog or rabbit dies because of that it‘s not worth it and I couldn‘t get the thought out of my head that while I am drinking a beer and watch the Slinning bonfire while animals die inside.
I wouldn‘t enjoy it.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Well, you may know that not all animals run away from fire.
Insofar and I am sorry for this, I find the norwegian bonfires despicable, I could not enjoy them for the reasons stated above.
In that case, I'm sorry to say you wouldn't enjoy bonfires in Finland either.
We sometimes start building the bonfires in the previous fall.
That said, I have never heard of anyone being concerned about animals sheltering in the bonfires, nor have I ever witnessed animals scurrying away from the stack of wooden what-nots when approached and/or set fire. Quick google search in Finnish revealed only one fb post by a one local animal welfare association, that advised people to check/make sure, that there are no birds nests in the stack. In SF law expressly prohibits harming nesting birds/bird nests, but that has nothing to do with bonfires.
We tend to be more worried over some jokester/arsonist burning the bonfire ahead of time...
"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech
Speaking of laws that seem strange to me: I've heard burning wood in stoves is illegal in the Netherlands. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
I assume (if the story is true) the law is there to limit smog, since the Netherlands is a small and pretty urbanized country, so it makes sense to me. It's just very excotic.
Speaking of laws that seem strange to me: I've heard burning wood in stoves is illegal in the Netherlands. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
I assume (if the story is true) the law is there to limit smog, since the Netherlands is a small and pretty urbanized country, so it makes sense to me. It's just very excotic.
The Rampant Environmentalists try to get similar law passed in Finland from time to time. They present these pseudo scientific research results about how many people die yearly on complications caused by burning wood in sauna stoves and fireplaces. The University of Eastern Finland is developing a voluntary certificate for sauna stove manufacturers that minimize the fine particle release from their stoves.
"I mean, she almost kills bond...with her ass."
-Mr Arlington Beech
I've never heard of anyone trying to pass that sort of laws in Norway, but in densely populated countries with a temperate climate it sounds reasonable to me. In countries with cold winters I think people should have stoves. If the power supply is cut off somehow it's vital to have your own heat sourse. Some years ago we didn't have electricity for five days from the 25. to the 30. December. Being able to maintain a warm house and warming food for dinner was important.
Dr. Fauci and the head of the CDC have testified, that it‘s 2 1/2 weeks that they spoke to Trump.
Seems that there are more important things than a pandemic with 120.000 deaths so far
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Dr. Fauci and the head of the CDC have testified, that it‘s 2 1/2 weeks that they spoke to Trump.
Seems that there are more important things than a pandemic with 120.000 deaths so far
Like showing people he can drink a glass of water with one hand ..... :v
With the German R rate going up to 2.79, have they reopened everything too soon? Up to now they have handled things very well, this may be a warning to those countries who think this pandemic has fizzled out.
The high R number
- is based on a very low number in total, so a few new infections raise that factor very much
- we had an outbreak of over 1000 Infected workers in a meat processing site and over 7000 people in total are under police enforced quarantene to avoid that workers are running away.
That appears to be a unique event and authorities are trying to limit the outbreak with those measures so in total, the infections besides this is still low.
Just wanted to update that testing of the population outside of the site brought 9 confirmed Corona cases from 4100 tests in the last couple of days.
So it seems that the outbreak is pretty much limited to the site and is pretty well under control outside.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Thunderbird 2East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,818MI6 Agent
I have a question about all this....
Where I am, I went out to get my new watch today, and as is the norm, I put on my face mask.
I do every time I go out. But, I am seeing worryingly few people doing the same!
Maybe I have mis understood, but I thought if you are out, You maximise social distancing, and
wear a face covering.
What is happening where everyone else is?
This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
There is an easy explanation for this:
Idiots and morons!*
There is nothing else to say!
The internet is full with info like „we are poisoning us with CO by wearing masks“ and „we need immune reaction and masks are taking this away from us“.
That‘s exactly what happens when your education and information happens solely over facebook and Co. and not by watching the good main News Channels and Newspapers.
My second home is Hong Kong and when someone is sick - they are wearing a mask! Period!
Not to protect themselfs but to stop infecting others!
It‘s simple and not hard to understand!
And noone has ever poisoned themselfs or damaged their brains by CO or destroyed their immune system.
So why anyone would complain and refuse wearing a mask is beyond my understanding.
The threat by the Virus is real and serious! We should be serious about it too.
Rant over!
* and sorry, if you think that there is not the need to wear a mask - you are one - no matter what infos your „opinion“ is based on.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Thunderbird 2East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,818MI6 Agent
A piece of your Mind, providing clarification, reassurance and confirmation.
Giving Me peace of Mind! Thanks Higgins.
This is Thunderbird 2, how can I be of assistance?
I'm all for wearing masks in highly infected areas - it's a good thing. That being said, I've never seen anyone not working in the health service wearing masks here in Norway, be it on TV or real life. Perhaps it's because the infection rates never became high here and and few areas a re really densly populated?
How do you know that an area is „highly infected“?
You can‘t see if a person is infected (without symptoms).
Thus the rule for wearing masks is, you should do it when you can‘t keep other people 2 meters away from you and when you are inside of a public building.
Again, masks are not there to protect YOU, masks are worn to protect OTHERS
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
You can know if an region/town is highly infected based on extensive testing, the number of dead and hospitalized etc. There is no guarantee of course, but I there is very good reason to think where I live is far safer than say .... Stockholm.
TB2 and Higgins: Unfortunately you can’t cure stupid. There are a generation of people who have no respect for anyone else so will continue to do what they want, when they want, to the detriment of everyone else.
Talking of HK, Higgins, and sorry to hijack the thread, I fear that visiting this wonderful country again may well be impossible with the political climate as it is. How do you view this?
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
Is it true Trump has said wearing a mask is a sign you're against him?
I have no idea, N24. But if he did, it’s a silly thing to say.
President Trump has contributed greatly to the Philippines , in terms of money and other aid, in the fight against this dreadful disease, so he is not regarded as all things evil to the majority in this country.
Yeah, well, sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand.
I wear a mask when I am in any shop or even outside sometimes if I believe there are too many people. When I first put it on I was uncomfortable and thought I looked like a criminal, I also found it difficult to breathe, but this feelings soon passed. I have mentioned before that I help out with elderly people in the community and even when gardening for them and never coming into contact (because they are indoors) I still always wear a mask. I think more fuss is made because I almost never wear shoes when I am working in the gardens! When they see my bare feet I think many people think I cannot afford shoes!
I think it to be a show of politeness as much as anything else and tells people I wish them to be as safe as possible from any germs I may be breathing out. The habit of wearing a mask is one which I think I will continue until I believe it is safe not to rather than listening to advice on the virus.
Again, masks are not there to protect YOU, masks are worn to protect OTHERS
I've always been really confused when I hear medical officials and politicians say that—masks are not worn to protect you but to protect others; but doesn't that also mean it protects you...you're one of the "others" when viewed from someone else's perspective ?:)
Is it true Trump has said wearing a mask is a sign you're against him?
I have no idea, N24. But if he did, it’s a silly thing to say.
President Trump has contributed greatly to the Philippines , in terms of money and other aid, in the fight against this dreadful disease, so he is not regarded as all things evil to the majority in this country.
Again, masks are not there to protect YOU, masks are worn to protect OTHERS
I've always been really confused when I hear medical officials and politicians say that—masks are not worn to protect you but to protect others; but doesn't that also mean it protects you...you're one of the "others" when viewed from someone else's perspective ?:)
Well, the common argument of the mask-refusers is „ my risk - my choice“ or „I‘ll have to die at some point“ or the like.
That‘s why officials repeat on and on, that masks are not there mainly to protect you.
And if you are not wearing one, you put others in danger - and that „others“ can be you, if your counterpart refuses to wear a mask.
President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Sweden has on average 25 corona dead per day. It may not sound like a lot, but I think Norway has less than one per day. The other Nordic nations have low numbers too. It's of course still possible Sweden gets vindicated if a second wave of corona comes before any effective medicine is found and the Swedish population has gained mass imunity. The plan was to have mass imunity by May, but it's nowhere in sight. Instead Sweden has 52.8 corona dead per 100 000 people, Denmark 10.4, Finland 5.9, Norway 4.7 and Iceland 2.9.
The Swedish expert group under the leadership of Anders Tegnell still belive their strategy of keeping society open was correct and they only would have made "minor adjustments" if they knew what they now know from the start.
But if the corona virus had developed in the same way in Sweden as it has in Norway the number of dead would have been about 500 (adjusted for the size of the populations), but in reality Sweden's number is about 5200!
That's a huge responisibility.
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If even one hedgehog or rabbit dies because of that it‘s not worth it and I couldn‘t get the thought out of my head that while I am drinking a beer and watch the Slinning bonfire while animals die inside.
I wouldn‘t enjoy it.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
In that case, I'm sorry to say you wouldn't enjoy bonfires in Finland either.
We sometimes start building the bonfires in the previous fall.
That said, I have never heard of anyone being concerned about animals sheltering in the bonfires, nor have I ever witnessed animals scurrying away from the stack of wooden what-nots when approached and/or set fire. Quick google search in Finnish revealed only one fb post by a one local animal welfare association, that advised people to check/make sure, that there are no birds nests in the stack. In SF law expressly prohibits harming nesting birds/bird nests, but that has nothing to do with bonfires.
We tend to be more worried over some jokester/arsonist burning the bonfire ahead of time...
-Mr Arlington Beech
I assume (if the story is true) the law is there to limit smog, since the Netherlands is a small and pretty urbanized country, so it makes sense to me. It's just very excotic.
The Rampant Environmentalists try to get similar law passed in Finland from time to time. They present these pseudo scientific research results about how many people die yearly on complications caused by burning wood in sauna stoves and fireplaces. The University of Eastern Finland is developing a voluntary certificate for sauna stove manufacturers that minimize the fine particle release from their stoves.
-Mr Arlington Beech
Seems that there are more important things than a pandemic with 120.000 deaths so far
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Like showing people he can drink a glass of water with one hand ..... :v
Just wanted to update that testing of the population outside of the site brought 9 confirmed Corona cases from 4100 tests in the last couple of days.
So it seems that the outbreak is pretty much limited to the site and is pretty well under control outside.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lybBHQW0X7g&list=PLwCiRao53J1yH9le2s6XUGbHW6fxxUIrT&index=6
Where I am, I went out to get my new watch today, and as is the norm, I put on my face mask.
I do every time I go out. But, I am seeing worryingly few people doing the same!
Maybe I have mis understood, but I thought if you are out, You maximise social distancing, and
wear a face covering.
What is happening where everyone else is?
Idiots and morons!*
There is nothing else to say!
The internet is full with info like „we are poisoning us with CO by wearing masks“ and „we need immune reaction and masks are taking this away from us“.
That‘s exactly what happens when your education and information happens solely over facebook and Co. and not by watching the good main News Channels and Newspapers.
My second home is Hong Kong and when someone is sick - they are wearing a mask! Period!
Not to protect themselfs but to stop infecting others!
It‘s simple and not hard to understand!
And noone has ever poisoned themselfs or damaged their brains by CO or destroyed their immune system.
So why anyone would complain and refuse wearing a mask is beyond my understanding.
The threat by the Virus is real and serious! We should be serious about it too.
Rant over!
* and sorry, if you think that there is not the need to wear a mask - you are one - no matter what infos your „opinion“ is based on.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Giving Me peace of Mind! Thanks Higgins.
You can‘t see if a person is infected (without symptoms).
Thus the rule for wearing masks is, you should do it when you can‘t keep other people 2 meters away from you and when you are inside of a public building.
Again, masks are not there to protect YOU, masks are worn to protect OTHERS
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
Talking of HK, Higgins, and sorry to hijack the thread, I fear that visiting this wonderful country again may well be impossible with the political climate as it is. How do you view this?
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I have no idea, N24. But if he did, it’s a silly thing to say.
President Trump has contributed greatly to the Philippines , in terms of money and other aid, in the fight against this dreadful disease, so he is not regarded as all things evil to the majority in this country.
I was not thinking properly of your situation out there and fully understand.
I think it to be a show of politeness as much as anything else and tells people I wish them to be as safe as possible from any germs I may be breathing out. The habit of wearing a mask is one which I think I will continue until I believe it is safe not to rather than listening to advice on the virus.
I've always been really confused when I hear medical officials and politicians say that—masks are not worn to protect you but to protect others; but doesn't that also mean it protects you...you're one of the "others" when viewed from someone else's perspective ?:)
I'm glad to hear the US is contributing against Corona in the Philippines, because I'm worried China and Russia using the crisis to increase their soft power.
I found the story that's probably the basis of what I heard. Trump said some people are using masks to signal oposition to him.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-americans-wearing-masks-show-disapproval-not-as-preventive-measure-2020-6?r=US&IR=T
Well, the common argument of the mask-refusers is „ my risk - my choice“ or „I‘ll have to die at some point“ or the like.
That‘s why officials repeat on and on, that masks are not there mainly to protect you.
And if you are not wearing one, you put others in danger - and that „others“ can be you, if your counterpart refuses to wear a mask.
Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
I concur!
-Mr Arlington Beech
Roger Moore 1927-2017
The Swedish expert group under the leadership of Anders Tegnell still belive their strategy of keeping society open was correct and they only would have made "minor adjustments" if they knew what they now know from the start.
But if the corona virus had developed in the same way in Sweden as it has in Norway the number of dead would have been about 500 (adjusted for the size of the populations), but in reality Sweden's number is about 5200!
That's a huge responisibility.
That day is closer than you think:
Sweden launches probe into handling of pandemic
https://www.dw.com/en/sweden-launches-probe-into-handling-of-pandemic/a-53651574
-Mr Arlington Beech