Disney just pulled a wild move - MULAN "in some theaters" (probably meaning in countries that got their act together) but same-day premiere on Disney+ for an additional $30 rental
That's Disney putting their own thing on their own platform.
Disney can wear the cost much better than EON.
Disney also have a heap of other theatrical releases that they've pushed back to next year
Disney just pulled a wild move - MULAN "in some theaters" (probably meaning in countries that got their act together) but same-day premiere on Disney+ for an additional $30 rental
That's Disney putting their own thing on their own platform.
Disney can wear the cost much better than EON.
Disney also have a heap of other theatrical releases that they've pushed back to next year
Let’s not forget the Universal/Comcast connection. I could see the same thing happening for Bond. All depends on how much control EON has under their distribution contract. It might not ultimately be their call.
Disney just pulled a wild move - MULAN "in some theaters" (probably meaning in countries that got their act together) but same-day premiere on Disney+ for an additional $30 rental
EON won't try that, although I sincerely wish it. The risk is too big...
Another possibility would be some kind of special package including for instance a visit to Pinewood and then a private projection.
Of course, such an exclusive offer would be expensive (let us say about 300 £ per person) and I suppose only those who really can't wait until november (if not later) would consider it, but at least it would be fair from EON.
After all, it's like luxury goods: if you really want it and if you can afford it, then why would you have to deprive yourself ?
Disney just pulled a wild move - MULAN "in some theaters" (probably meaning in countries that got their act together) but same-day premiere on Disney+ for an additional $30 rental
EON won't try that, although I sincerely wish it. The risk is too big...
Another possibility would be some kind of special package including for instance a visit to Pinewood and then a private projection.
Of course, such an exclusive offer would be expensive (let us say about 300 £ per person) and I suppose only those who really can't wait until november (if not later) would consider it, but at least it would be fair from EON.
After all, it's like luxury goods: if you really want it and if you can afford it, then why would you have to deprive yourself ?
Now that AMC and Universal have cut a deal, I don't see the possibility of that type of scenario for NTTD until EON, et al believe they have no other choice and would loose too much money. Universal has the international distribution rights, which is obviously big but my guess is that EON and MGM still call the shots. The reality is, as recent reports indicated that there is no debt remaining on NTTD, the producers are in a much better position to wait this out. Of course while they wait it out they are still not making any money on NTTD (and of course having to ratchet up another promotional campaign for the film at some point will cut into profits), but EON/MGM continue to make a tidy sum everyday on the Bond back catalog.
Disney just pulled a wild move - MULAN "in some theaters" (probably meaning in countries that got their act together) but same-day premiere on Disney+ for an additional $30 rental
I know they're trying to make their money back but I'm shocked at the premium they're charging—it works out to be around $40 Aussie dollars (more than double a normal movie ticket here), and that's on top of the Disney+ monthly charge...because you need to be a paying subscriber before you're allowed to pay to see the movie.
I know they're trying to make their money back but I'm shocked at the premium they're charging—it works out to be around $40 Aussie dollars (more than double a normal movie ticket here), and that's on top of the Disney+ monthly charge...because you need to be a paying subscriber before you're allowed to pay to see the movie.
Well, it is Disney, where they're used to charging you admission and then charging you for a bunch of things after admission. )
Mulan is an experiment, and Disney has said as much. Really it's their workaround for releasing it in markets where theaters can open and trying to recoup in countries where theaters can't.
I'm not saying MGM/Eon will do this, or this is a new model that will be emulated elsewhere, but it's important to pay attention to everyone's experiments as they try to navigate a new normal.
Universal/Comcast have Peacock, their own fledgling premium VOD service. They could ostensibly throw a ton of money at MGM and Eon to make NTTD the thing that pushes subscriptions, the way Disney+ used Hamilton to boost subscribers. Eon/MGM doesn't want to do that today. But the rules are out the window, and the rules change every week.
I think the powers that be need to really think about this. For me each Bond film is a kind of time capsule for their time, fashion, technology etc obviously with plenty of bells and whistles. It would be all too easy to keep delaying this with the product looking dated which would be a huge shame.
I think the powers that be need to really think about this. For me each Bond film is a kind of time capsule for their time, fashion, technology etc obviously with plenty of bells and whistles. It would be all too easy to keep delaying this with the product looking dated which would be a huge shame.
I agree. The longer they wait the more dated the film will seem. Especially because we'll be so aware that this was filmed in a pre-covid world. I wonder what post-covid Bond will be like. Similar to 9/11's impact on films, I can only imagine how the different world will influence our entertainment. And I don't mean in a 'hey guys how bout that covid' way, but the influence of the economy and the geopolitical context.
Anyway, i'm getting more hopeful that this will release in November. Tenet is going ahead. I think they'll release where they can and hold back where they can't. VOD release might be brought sooner than it would otherwise be.
I think the powers that be need to really think about this. For me each Bond film is a kind of time capsule for their time, fashion, technology etc obviously with plenty of bells and whistles. It would be all too easy to keep delaying this with the product looking dated which would be a huge shame.
I agree. The longer they wait the more dated the film will seem. Especially because we'll be so aware that this was filmed in a pre-covid world. I wonder what post-covid Bond will be like. Similar to 9/11's impact on films, I can only imagine how the different world will influence our entertainment. And I don't mean in a 'hey guys how bout that covid' way, but the influence of the economy and the geopolitical context.
Anyway, i'm getting more hopeful that this will release in November. Tenet is going ahead. I think they'll release where they can and hold back where they can't. VOD release might be brought sooner than it would otherwise be.
I don't see the "time capsule" thing being an issue. They can always slap a date up on the screen when the film begins. Also, what the actual plot/story is about might not be so time sensitive either.
As far as Tenet is concerned, that film gets a new release date every week. Also, Tenet will never go to VOD first or even concurrently with a limited theatrical release because of the huge sum of money sunk into IMAX. While NTTD had a few scenes filmed with 70mm IMAX cameras, all of Tenet (like Dunkirk) was filmed with 70mm IMAX cameras and I doubt very much that Christopher Nolan is willing to have his film compromised with a VOD release until it has a full theatrical release in IMAX theaters. Could you imagine this tagline "Filmed entirely in 70mm IMAX, the world's most immersive film experience.....on your 50" home TV" ) .
Nolan is not an investor or owner of the film, so it's less about what he's "willing" to do than it is about the studio catering to him, which will eventually have a limit.
And yeah, any talk about NTTD looking "dated" is silly - the perception of a film looking dated is influenced by context (ie, the rest of the world), and as we've all been sitting in our houses since March, it's not as if the world's moved on (Commander Bond)...
Nolan is not an investor or owner of the film, so it's less about what he's "willing" to do than it is about the studio catering to him, which will eventually have a limit.
I think Syncopy, Nolan's company is listed as one of the production companies. No matter, Nolan gets a lot of control.
And yeah, any talk about NTTD looking "dated" is silly - the perception of a film looking dated is influenced by context (ie, the rest of the world), and as we've all been sitting in our houses since March, it's not as if the world's moved on (Commander Bond)...
I think the film will feel fresh anyway. Since nobody have seen the film so it will be fresh when we finally get to see it anyway. Fingers crossed for november -{
Amazon Emailed today, 2 out of the 3 books i ordered in January are getting released in November.
Hopefully if the making of is coming out we may be on track for november!
Hello,
We have good news! Two of your pre-ordered items are now eligible for release date delivery and has been upgraded at no additional charge. Your new delivery estimate is:
Simon Hugo "James Bond's DB5"
Estimated arrival date: November 17 2020
Ben Robinson "50 Greatest James Bond Cars"
Estimated arrival date: November 17 2020
website still shows Nov as the release date for the NTTD book.
Amazon Emailed today, 2 out of the 3 books i ordered in January are getting released in November.
Hopefully if the making of is coming out we may be on track for november!
Hello,
We have good news! Two of your pre-ordered items are now eligible for release date delivery and has been upgraded at no additional charge. Your new delivery estimate is:
Simon Hugo "James Bond's DB5"
Estimated arrival date: November 17 2020
Ben Robinson "50 Greatest James Bond Cars"
Estimated arrival date: November 17 2020
website still shows Nov as the release date for the NTTD book.
I actually booked 2 screenings, Central Picturehouse 70mm and BFI IMAX 15/70.
A bit mad but I’d like to compare how they differ
You guys are getting 800+ new covid cases a day and still opening cinemas? Nuts.
Been to the BFI IMAX and it was amazing.
Not familiar with the Central Picturehouse 70mm.
Just saw an email announcement that AMC theaters in the US is rolling out a re-opening. AMC is projecting that at least 2/3's of its locations in the USA will be re-opened by early September. On the surface this would seem to bode well for a NTTD release in November, however when it comes to this virus, nothing is ever certain. If there is a surge (or if numbers don't go down) local and State governments could keep the theaters from re-opening. Even if many theaters do re-open, will EON/MGM decide it's still too risky based on possible projections of low attendance due to public fear and significant seating reductions at theaters and continue to hedge their bets and hold out longer?
Amazon Emailed today, 2 out of the 3 books i ordered in January are getting released in November.
Hopefully if the making of is coming out we may be on track for november!
Hello,
We have good news! Two of your pre-ordered items are now eligible for release date delivery and has been upgraded at no additional charge. Your new delivery estimate is:
Simon Hugo "James Bond's DB5"
Estimated arrival date: November 17 2020
Ben Robinson "50 Greatest James Bond Cars"
Estimated arrival date: November 17 2020
website still shows Nov as the release date for the NTTD book.
Maybe thats a little sign :007) -{ -{
By the way. Will there be a making of the movie book? i see you're first picture there. I was aware of the books by greg williams previously but that first picture says making of now time to die by Mark Salisbury. Is that the first bond book by him?
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By the way. Will there be a making of the movie book? i see you're first picture there. I was aware of the books by greg williams previously but that first picture says making of now time to die by Mark Salisbury. Is that the first bond book by him?
Rankin took over for Spectre. I did love the continuity of GW from Brosnan to Craig era.
Saw Tenet today, about 30-40 in cinema, noon screening at central picturehouse in 70mm.
I guess they can see how much $$ it does for next 5 weeks and then decide if NTTD is still workable for Nov.
Hard to remain fully objective, 1st film at the cinema since pre lockdown, wanting to like it, wanting it to be good to get people back to cinema, so we have a chance at NTTD this year..
I enjoyed it, albeit very confusing at times, it didn’t seem like a 150min movie.
Some of the set pieces are very good and it’s easy to see why he’d be a great choice for Bond director, but prob won’t ever happen.
Prob not as good as I hoped, but still a solid 6/10.
Seeing again on sat morning, so it’ll hopefully make more sense and a proper 70mm vs IMAX compare.
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That's Disney putting their own thing on their own platform.
Disney can wear the cost much better than EON.
Disney also have a heap of other theatrical releases that they've pushed back to next year
Let’s not forget the Universal/Comcast connection. I could see the same thing happening for Bond. All depends on how much control EON has under their distribution contract. It might not ultimately be their call.
EON won't try that, although I sincerely wish it. The risk is too big...
Another possibility would be some kind of special package including for instance a visit to Pinewood and then a private projection.
Of course, such an exclusive offer would be expensive (let us say about 300 £ per person) and I suppose only those who really can't wait until november (if not later) would consider it, but at least it would be fair from EON.
After all, it's like luxury goods: if you really want it and if you can afford it, then why would you have to deprive yourself ?
Now that AMC and Universal have cut a deal, I don't see the possibility of that type of scenario for NTTD until EON, et al believe they have no other choice and would loose too much money. Universal has the international distribution rights, which is obviously big but my guess is that EON and MGM still call the shots. The reality is, as recent reports indicated that there is no debt remaining on NTTD, the producers are in a much better position to wait this out. Of course while they wait it out they are still not making any money on NTTD (and of course having to ratchet up another promotional campaign for the film at some point will cut into profits), but EON/MGM continue to make a tidy sum everyday on the Bond back catalog.
I know they're trying to make their money back but I'm shocked at the premium they're charging—it works out to be around $40 Aussie dollars (more than double a normal movie ticket here), and that's on top of the Disney+ monthly charge...because you need to be a paying subscriber before you're allowed to pay to see the movie.
Well, it is Disney, where they're used to charging you admission and then charging you for a bunch of things after admission.
Mulan is an experiment, and Disney has said as much. Really it's their workaround for releasing it in markets where theaters can open and trying to recoup in countries where theaters can't.
I'm not saying MGM/Eon will do this, or this is a new model that will be emulated elsewhere, but it's important to pay attention to everyone's experiments as they try to navigate a new normal.
Universal/Comcast have Peacock, their own fledgling premium VOD service. They could ostensibly throw a ton of money at MGM and Eon to make NTTD the thing that pushes subscriptions, the way Disney+ used Hamilton to boost subscribers. Eon/MGM doesn't want to do that today. But the rules are out the window, and the rules change every week.
I agree. The longer they wait the more dated the film will seem. Especially because we'll be so aware that this was filmed in a pre-covid world. I wonder what post-covid Bond will be like. Similar to 9/11's impact on films, I can only imagine how the different world will influence our entertainment. And I don't mean in a 'hey guys how bout that covid' way, but the influence of the economy and the geopolitical context.
Anyway, i'm getting more hopeful that this will release in November. Tenet is going ahead. I think they'll release where they can and hold back where they can't. VOD release might be brought sooner than it would otherwise be.
I don't see the "time capsule" thing being an issue. They can always slap a date up on the screen when the film begins. Also, what the actual plot/story is about might not be so time sensitive either.
As far as Tenet is concerned, that film gets a new release date every week. Also, Tenet will never go to VOD first or even concurrently with a limited theatrical release because of the huge sum of money sunk into IMAX. While NTTD had a few scenes filmed with 70mm IMAX cameras, all of Tenet (like Dunkirk) was filmed with 70mm IMAX cameras and I doubt very much that Christopher Nolan is willing to have his film compromised with a VOD release until it has a full theatrical release in IMAX theaters. Could you imagine this tagline "Filmed entirely in 70mm IMAX, the world's most immersive film experience.....on your 50" home TV"
I think Syncopy, Nolan's company is listed as one of the production companies. No matter, Nolan gets a lot of control.
I think the film will feel fresh anyway. Since nobody have seen the film so it will be fresh when we finally get to see it anyway. Fingers crossed for november
Hopefully if the making of is coming out we may be on track for november!
Hello,
We have good news! Two of your pre-ordered items are now eligible for release date delivery and has been upgraded at no additional charge. Your new delivery estimate is:
Simon Hugo "James Bond's DB5"
Estimated arrival date: November 17 2020
Ben Robinson "50 Greatest James Bond Cars"
Estimated arrival date: November 17 2020
website still shows Nov as the release date for the NTTD book.
(no money left now...send food parcels)
Maybe thats a little sign :007) -{ -{
BFI Odeon IMAX?
A bit mad but I’d like to compare how they differ
You guys are getting 800+ new covid cases a day and still opening cinemas? Nuts.
Been to the BFI IMAX and it was amazing.
Not familiar with the Central Picturehouse 70mm.
Just saw an email announcement that AMC theaters in the US is rolling out a re-opening. AMC is projecting that at least 2/3's of its locations in the USA will be re-opened by early September. On the surface this would seem to bode well for a NTTD release in November, however when it comes to this virus, nothing is ever certain. If there is a surge (or if numbers don't go down) local and State governments could keep the theaters from re-opening. Even if many theaters do re-open, will EON/MGM decide it's still too risky based on possible projections of low attendance due to public fear and significant seating reductions at theaters and continue to hedge their bets and hold out longer?
By the way. Will there be a making of the movie book? i see you're first picture there. I was aware of the books by greg williams previously but that first picture says making of now time to die by Mark Salisbury. Is that the first bond book by him?
Rankin took over for Spectre. I did love the continuity of GW from Brosnan to Craig era.
I guess they can see how much $$ it does for next 5 weeks and then decide if NTTD is still workable for Nov.
I enjoyed it, albeit very confusing at times, it didn’t seem like a 150min movie.
Some of the set pieces are very good and it’s easy to see why he’d be a great choice for Bond director, but prob won’t ever happen.
Prob not as good as I hoped, but still a solid 6/10.
Seeing again on sat morning, so it’ll hopefully make more sense and a proper 70mm vs IMAX compare.
Good numbers
Grrrrrrrrrr...was really looking forward to seeing that soon
If the rest of world follows suit, I’d say NTTD will be green lit for Nov