AJB live commentary on TND

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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Pryce is one of this film's strengths, never more so than at the climax.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    Number24 wrote:
    The action relies far too much on automatic fire in this fight :#

    Michelle Yeoh really *performs* with those weapons... whereas Pierce tends just to point, pout and shoot..
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Grim Brosnan
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    JTM wrote:
    Shady Tree wrote:
    Michelle Yeoh really *owns* this film in the action stakes..

    She definitely kicks ass more than the majority of other “Bond Girls”. The “hiyah” every time she kicks someone is a bit comedic though :))

    As Carver seemed to think. The look she gave him when he said, "Pathetic!"
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  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,816MI6 Agent
    Another Bond baddie Uber vessel goes Boom!!
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,330MI6 Agent
    edited May 2020
    Stamper is the poor man's Red Grant. I'd say Necros was better.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Gymkata wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Grim Brosnan

    painface.

    Ah, you're underrating him. He has more than one painface!
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    edited May 2020
    Definitely one of the more brutal ways for Bond to kill the “big bad”.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    Pryce performs the agony of his violent death, despite having camped up much else (in a good way)
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  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Nope, prefer Stamper.

    Because he‘s german and not austrian
    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    The "no pain" idea was expanded for Renard in the next movie
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,330MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Gymkata wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    Grim Brosnan

    painface.

    Ah, you're underrating him. He has more than one painface!

    :)) :)) :))
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Higgins wrote:
    Nope, prefer Stamper.

    Because he‘s german and not austrian

    He's one of the best of this archetype
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Music “All In A Day’s Work” Beautiful use of “Surrender”
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Gymkata wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    Stamper is the poor man's Red Grant. I'd say Necros was better.

    I've seen blocks of cedar that have more presence than Stamper. He's such a non-entity, even with that Dolph Lundgren chin going on.

    He beats Necros hands down
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,330MI6 Agent
    "Surrender" is great! :007) :007) :007)
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Anyone old enough to remember Robert Maxwell will get M's last line
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    edited May 2020
    Barbel wrote:

    He beats Necros hands down

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    I agree with Barbel - shocking :v
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Music “Surrender” Sung by kd lang. Arnold submitted this for the title song, but it was relegated to the end titles. Total, total pastiche of John Barry/James Bond songs done gloriously over the top.
  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    Stamper's implied motive of avenging Kaufman not really convincing. But his lines "For Carver! For Kaufman!" actually echo a part of John Brosnan's book 'James Bond In The Cinema' (1972). Brosnan complained that when Blofeld first met Bond in YOLT he should have slapped him round the face and said, "That's for Doctor No! And that's for Largo!"
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  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Fair enough

    Edit- talking to Gymkata
  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,330MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Gymkata wrote:
    Number24 wrote:
    Stamper is the poor man's Red Grant. I'd say Necros was better.

    I've seen blocks of cedar that have more presence than Stamper. He's such a non-entity, even with that Dolph Lundgren chin going on.

    He beats Necros hands down

    Necros could take on other personas and infiltrate a MI6 safe house. All Stamper does is fighting and having bleached hair. :))
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    I think Brosnan is fantastic as Bond in this film. I love how it deliberately echoes TSWLM and YOLT. The music is the best Bond had had in years.
    The counter-argument is that it’s “Bond by the numbers” but sometimes that is the way to go (eg TSWLM) and as long as you get those numbers right then it works.
    It’s a shame Brosnan himself doesn’t think highly of this (or TWINE).
  • Thunderbird 2Thunderbird 2 East of Cardiff, Wales.Posts: 2,816MI6 Agent
    Higgins wrote:
    Nope, prefer Stamper.

    Because he‘s german and not austrian
    I agree, Gotz Otto owns the scenes he is in and his character is seen as ruthless.
    Although Necros is decent, there is too little of him to make home memorable as a character.

    Stamper is at the centre of TND. Necros doesn’t know who his real boss was as we didn’t!
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  • Shady TreeShady Tree London, UKPosts: 2,998MI6 Agent
    Barbel wrote:
    Music “Surrender” Sung by kd lang. Arnold submitted this for the title song, but it was relegated to the end titles. Total, total pastiche of John Barry/James Bond songs done gloriously over the top.

    Absolutely. Love it (except for those electronic primal burping/farting sounds. Arnold used these, too, in his 'Thunderball' on 'Shaken And Stirred' and even in 'No Good About Goodbye' with Shirley Bassey).
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  • ACACIA_AVENUEACACIA_AVENUE UKPosts: 1,775MI6 Agent
    Well, that was damn good, really enjoyed that -{
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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,330MI6 Agent
    I think TND is a good entry, but it suffers from average action scenes (there's a couple of exceptions) and forgettable henchmen.
    The music is great and Michelle Yeoh is a staqndout in the action scenes.
  • BarbelBarbel ScotlandPosts: 37,854Chief of Staff
    Shady Tree wrote:
    and even in 'No Good About Goodbye' with Shirley Bassey).

    Don't get me started, now....
  • HigginsHiggins GermanyPosts: 16,619MI6 Agent
    Yours truely on the backseat!

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    President of the 'Misty Eyes Club'.

    Dalton - the weak and weepy Bond!
  • JTMJTM Posts: 3,027MI6 Agent
    Gymkata wrote:
    Barbel wrote:
    I think Brosnan is fantastic as Bond in this film. I love how it deliberately echoes TSWLM and YOLT. The music is the best Bond had had in years.
    The counter-argument is that it’s “Bond by the numbers” but sometimes that is the way to go (eg TSWLM) and as long as you get those numbers right then it works.
    It’s a shame Brosnan himself doesn’t think highly of this (or TWINE).

    Honestly, while I prefer the direction (especially the action direction) of GE, I think that this one may be Brosnan's best outing as Bond. It's very solid and delivers the goods, and I think that Brosnan does his best overall work as Bond in this movie.

    I think it’s a fantastic film and even one of my personal favs of the series. The plot is relatively “real world” even today, the action was quite enjoyable, Brosnan did a great job and Yeoh gave us a “Bond girl” that kicked ass! A great rewatch and I’m glad I was part of it -{
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