Bond26 in 2025 and 007 to be "reinvented" says Babs Broccoli

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  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,718Chief of Staff

    Never heard of them…but then I don’t ‘do’ social media at all, so not a surprise…but what have they got right to make you say “usually reliable”…?…and what have they got wrong..? 🤔

    YNWA 97
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,581MI6 Agent

    We're now 37 months since the release of NTTD.

    DC was named as Bond 35 months after DAD.

    The gap between June 1989's License to Kill and November 1995's Goldeneye was 77 months.

    The gap between NTTD and Bond26 will surpass that in 3 years four months.

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    edited November 11

    It's not too good news for Paul Mescal fans. Beyond the Trailer Youtube channel movie critic and showbiz news personality Grace Randolph is giving Gladiator II about 7 out of ten, and she tends to be on the kind side to the movie and TV industry.

    Worse for Mescal is that Randolph says Mescal is not cutting it as a leading man. When I watched Daniel Craig in Layer Cake just after he was announced as Bond I thought Craig's Layer Cake performance was very strong. Looking at Mescal's IMDB page Gladiator II is really his only movie lead role. I've seen Foe, where he has a co-lead with Saoirse Ronan, and I couldn't get all the way through the film and I think Saoirse Ronan is a great actress. Sadly, it looks like Gladiator II won't be Mescal's route to Bond. Rather like AJT his leading man chops seem to be a bit "mid," as the kids say.

    The reviews are now in on Rotten Tomatoes. Very mixed.

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gladiator_ii/reviews

  • alexyeoalexyeo Posts: 8MI6 Agent

    Yeah, I've only seen him in Aftersun and Normal People, but I didn't really catch any A-List leading man vibes from him..

  • emtiememtiem SurreyPosts: 5,932MI6 Agent
    edited November 11

    Whereas The Guardian that "there is something awe-inspiring in seeing Paul Mescal’s triumphal march into the A-list" and the Telegraph says he impresses. Maybe one person's review isn't the objective truth.


  • alexyeoalexyeo Posts: 8MI6 Agent

    I’ll hold out for seeing him in Gladiator II then… 🤞🏻

  • LuciusNightmareLuciusNightmare Posts: 264MI6 Agent

    Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson are awarded the Irving G. Thalberg Memorial Award this weekend. I would imagine there would be some word from them, maybe a glossy Variety or THR feature. Though we may just get a few choice words on a red carpet. In any case, I suspect we hear something. If we get the typical, "We haven't even thought about it yet" comment, then I will spit my dummy out of the pram.

    In other news, Jacob Elordi looks fire in the new Chanel advert with Margot Robbie


  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    edited November 11

    77% 'fresh', at the moment. 66 reviews....

    Hopefully we will get a comment or two at the Irving Thalberg thing. Nice spot Lucius.

  • Sir MilesSir Miles The Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,718Chief of Staff

    I’ve read quite a few reviews today…to paraphrase, most say the film is an enjoyable watch but isn’t memorable and Mescal is somewhat lacking as a lead but is ok.

    YNWA 97
  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,533MI6 Agent

    If by ‘fire’ you mean awful, then I would agree. Unless they go down the campy unrealistic comedy route again.

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  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent

    And if by "awful" you mean .... etc.

    I think Elordi looks good, but of course my eyes were mainly on Margot. 😃

  • Asp9mmAsp9mm Over the Hills and Far Away.Posts: 7,533MI6 Agent
  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    edited November 12


    It's a shame, I was hoping he'd be a clear choice as I have grave doubts about AJT. The actor who gets it in the end maybe a complete unknown. I am a cinephile and go to the movies a lot and enjoyed Elizabeth, Road to Perdition and Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (for obvious reasons), which Daniel Craig was in, and when Daniel Craig was announced my reaction was, 'who?' I think it was his performance in Elizabeth that first attracted Babs Broccoli.

  • LuciusNightmareLuciusNightmare Posts: 264MI6 Agent

    New comments from Barbara Broccoli ahead of the Academy's Governors Awards, where she gets the Irving Thalberg award. She confirms the hunt for the new Bond is underway:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/barbara-broccoli-ap-james-bond-roger-moore-hollywood-b2646395.html

  • alexyeoalexyeo Posts: 8MI6 Agent

    It’s a big decision,” she said.

    They’ve teased some things: It will be a man. He’ll likely be in his 30s. Whiteness is not a given. And whoever says yes is doing so with the expectation of at least a decade’s worth of films. One thing is certain: There's going to be a period of adjustment for audiences in the transition. Every Bond had its detractors, especially at the start. Broccoli saw firsthand the vitriol of the internet era when Craig was cast ("anti-Daniel nonsense," she called it.)

    But when people finally saw “Casino Royale,” the sentiment shifted to love. The five Craig Bonds are the highest grossing in the series, not adjusting for inflation. It remains one of her proudest moments. And a new Bond means new opportunity.

    “Every time we cast a new actor, the films change. It’s the excitement of a new Bond, a new direction,” Wilson said. “Every one of these people who took on the role offered something new and different.”

  • SeanIsTheOnlyOneSeanIsTheOnlyOne Posts: 497MI6 Agent
    edited November 13

    Perhaps it's me but I don't see where in the article she confirms such a thing.

    Is there a line where she says 'The script is finished. We are currently looking for a director and an actor'?

  • Number24Number24 NorwayPosts: 22,306MI6 Agent

    I can't see it either.

  • SomeoneSomeone Posts: 1,581MI6 Agent
    edited November 13

    I don't see any reference to the hunt being underway either. The comments about a future Bond actor are a rehash of past statements. For me, the interesting comment is this:

    “People are playing it very safe. I think in times of crisis like this, you've got to be brave," Broccoli said. “It’s certainly a new era in the movie business, so we’re trying to figure it out."

    The comment comes after a reference about Amazon's purchase of MGM and the Broccoli's intent that Bond26 has a theatrical release, and not a streaming movie.

    The Craig era Bond movies have made huge sums of money, more than some Marvel movies, and that was when Marvel movies were doing well, why wouldn't a future Bond movie be in cinemas?

    I see on social media the Hollywood industry talking about "just survive to 2025" after the strike. Maybe that's what she means by people playing it safe. It's noticeable how few big budget movies there have been this year.

    IMHO it's a new era in the movie business because for some films people just think, 'I'll catch it on streaming later,' because the film just doesn't offer a cinematic experience or the film is not considered worth the price of an evening at the cinema.

    If I were "trying to figure it out" I think Bond movies have an ace up their sleeve and it is a reputation for big expensive action, beyond what other franchises can deliver, that is worth going to the big screen for. I just hope BB and MGW don't decide that an "event movie" only comes once every 4-5 years.

    That could, horribly, be their calculation, but that flies in the face of their comment before that an actor would have to commit to ten years. Two movies in 10 years? I think four over 12 years is a better bet.

    I think "being brave" could mean that "go big or go home" is the conclusion they have drawn. The history of Bond film grosses, adjusted for inflation, shows that spectacular is a winner.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/JamesBond/comments/18nmbka/bond_films_rank_ordered_and_adjusted_for_inflation/?rdt=62646

    And so Bond26 could be a $300 million behemoth. Hence the immense focus on the script and the 'script troubles' rumours of late. https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2024/11/6/james-bond-26-plagued-by-script-problems

    As for what sort of Bond we'll get, what tone, I think while Moore's lighter tone was popular, the Connery and Craig, more serious tones, were more appealing looking at the top grossing Bond movies. The Bond films have always been influenced by the times in which they were made and I think, now, when people openly talk about WWIII, a Goldeneye, Thunderball, Skyfall tone is a safer option.

  • SeanIsTheOnlyOneSeanIsTheOnlyOne Posts: 497MI6 Agent

    I think, now, when people openly talk about WWIII, a Goldeneye, Thunderball, Skyfall tone is a safer option.

    TB is not a film I would link with GE and SF in terms of tone. Although the stakes are stressful, the film itself remains the quintessence of fun, escapism and glamour. In the Connery era, DN and FRWL are much darker than the rest. The tone is brutal, the threat is insidious and there's an eerie atmosphere. It's also in these ones Connery's performance is absolutely mind blowing, which is not the case anymore from GF.

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