I guess since Wicked is a huge hit, Ariana Grande or Cynthia Erivo should be cast as Bond. If anything, one could say that Kraven being a bomb might enhance ATJ's Bond chances as he won't be signing on for a Kraven sequel / series. I wonder how really bad Kraven is? Guess I'll catch it when it hits Netflix in the spring and see.
Kraven has been on a hit list for some time. For all intents and purposes it was DOA when it opened in theaters. Again, I have not seen Kraven but it appears that it is not nearly as bad as alleged (my guess is it does pretty well streaming). As far as ATJ is concerned, it looks like the usual "influencers" are trying to put the "bad mojo" on him also when it comes to potentially getting the Bond role (if it was even a reality to begin with). It can be debated whether ATJ would make a good choice for Bond but basically reducing him to being a lousy actor just based upon one film that is tanking in theaters and ignoring the guy's entire body of work is a joke. This whole industry based upon destroying people just to get "clicks" is a disgrace....but sadly the world we live in now.
I'd call him a lousy star based on his body of work that I've seen. I don't think he's ever demonstrated that he's a good lead who can carry a film (also with the caveat that I haven't seen Kraven so maybe he carries it, I don't know- reviews on that seem to be mixed at best).
I don't get the feeling he's being hard done by by some online conspiracy.
I'm currently watching THE AGENCY (pretty good but slow) on Amazon Prime. It's a f@#%@#$ing shame we never got Michael Fassbender as Bond, he'd have been one of the best.
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I’ve seen it. To say it’s awful is an understatement. I can’t say how good ATJ is in it, because no one can work with that material or direction however good an actor you are. Utterly pointless film.
I daresay he's on the list because he ticks a lot of the boxes, I'd be surprised if he were near the top of the list of people they actively want for it though; and I guess they're open to all of that changing once they get to a testing process.
I think the casting is taking forever because... We can cross this with other threads, re-inventing Bond topic, no Bond before at least 2 years. It's too far too cast. If I was at the helm, I wouldn't care so much to cast as much as I would want to write something good. There are many repetitive plots in the Bond movies. These don't come out often now (they came out once a year at first!) so, I'm guessing they want to make something spectacular.
I've seen comments that ATJ has a good performance in Nosferatu, which itself has a lot of positive buzz around it. But as people have said, he doesn't seem to have leading man charisma. I knew Daniel Craig was good Bond material as soon as I saw Layer Cake. I've seen films with ATJ in them and not remembered him in the film, just no screen impact at all. I find it increasingly hard to believe he'll get the gig. That Sci-Fi podcast speculation that I found about a Sony, Stargate, Bond deal being announced at xmas seems like a million miles away now for sure.
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My reaction would be: not my favourite, but he has potential. Like with Craig I would wait until I saw the movie before passing judgement.
Never heard of him so I'd give him a fair shot, just like I did Craig.
Just after 9 minutes Grace Randolph says she doesn't expect ATJ to get Bond after the Kraven debacle.
I guess since Wicked is a huge hit, Ariana Grande or Cynthia Erivo should be cast as Bond. If anything, one could say that Kraven being a bomb might enhance ATJ's Bond chances as he won't be signing on for a Kraven sequel / series. I wonder how really bad Kraven is? Guess I'll catch it when it hits Netflix in the spring and see.
I've heard from a few people who've actually seen KRAVEN that it's decent. Not great by any means but solid enough. There are much worse MCU films.
More and more people seem to be quite sure ATJ won't be the next Bond, especially after his performance in Kraven. I wouldn't be so certain.
Kraven has been on a hit list for some time. For all intents and purposes it was DOA when it opened in theaters. Again, I have not seen Kraven but it appears that it is not nearly as bad as alleged (my guess is it does pretty well streaming). As far as ATJ is concerned, it looks like the usual "influencers" are trying to put the "bad mojo" on him also when it comes to potentially getting the Bond role (if it was even a reality to begin with). It can be debated whether ATJ would make a good choice for Bond but basically reducing him to being a lousy actor just based upon one film that is tanking in theaters and ignoring the guy's entire body of work is a joke. This whole industry based upon destroying people just to get "clicks" is a disgrace....but sadly the world we live in now.
I'd call him a lousy star based on his body of work that I've seen. I don't think he's ever demonstrated that he's a good lead who can carry a film (also with the caveat that I haven't seen Kraven so maybe he carries it, I don't know- reviews on that seem to be mixed at best).
I don't get the feeling he's being hard done by by some online conspiracy.
And that's what constitutes a legit debate. I do not think it's so much an online conspiracy, it's just how things go these days.
The great irony is, ATJ even being considered for Bond may not even be real.
I'm currently watching THE AGENCY (pretty good but slow) on Amazon Prime. It's a f@#%@#$ing shame we never got Michael Fassbender as Bond, he'd have been one of the best.
I’ve seen it. To say it’s awful is an understatement. I can’t say how good ATJ is in it, because no one can work with that material or direction however good an actor you are. Utterly pointless film.
I daresay he's on the list because he ticks a lot of the boxes, I'd be surprised if he were near the top of the list of people they actively want for it though; and I guess they're open to all of that changing once they get to a testing process.
I think the casting is taking forever because... We can cross this with other threads, re-inventing Bond topic, no Bond before at least 2 years. It's too far too cast. If I was at the helm, I wouldn't care so much to cast as much as I would want to write something good. There are many repetitive plots in the Bond movies. These don't come out often now (they came out once a year at first!) so, I'm guessing they want to make something spectacular.
These ultra long waits are not exactly fan friendly, especially fans like me who have been going to Bond films in the theater since the 60's.
I'm hoping to see Bond 26 in the theater and not the Community Room of an Old Age home while eating food through a straw.😨
I've seen comments that ATJ has a good performance in Nosferatu, which itself has a lot of positive buzz around it. But as people have said, he doesn't seem to have leading man charisma. I knew Daniel Craig was good Bond material as soon as I saw Layer Cake. I've seen films with ATJ in them and not remembered him in the film, just no screen impact at all. I find it increasingly hard to believe he'll get the gig. That Sci-Fi podcast speculation that I found about a Sony, Stargate, Bond deal being announced at xmas seems like a million miles away now for sure.