My thoughts, we have had a Scot play Bond, Englishmen, Irish and an Australian. Isn't about time a Welshman takes on the role? And now that Knightfall has been canceled the very excellent Tom Cullen should be first choice. Tom Cullen can do it all.
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if they can hire an Ozzie, the obvious next choice is a Canadian, and since the last fellow seemed to not even like the character, I'd prefer an actor with a proven love for and expertise in vintage 1960s SpyMania...
I hadn't realised that he left Wales when he was four years old. I have always thought I could detect a sight Welsh lilt in his voice, but if he was that young when he left, it's unlikely.
Still, every Welsh person I've ever chatted with about Dalton claims him as Welsh!
Well CraigBond's fictional biography has him down as being born in Berlin, but I'm not convinced Bond is supposed to be German 😉
Perhaps he does regard himself as Welsh, I don't know; but with no family roots there and only having ever lived there for four years as a baby, he doesn't seem the Welshest person in the world to me. If anything he seems more American than anything: he's half American by birth and has been living there for decades.
@The Domino Effect I would guess that the accent you hear occasionally in LTK especially is his probably his Derbyshire accent peeking out rather than a Welsh one.
I was curious to look into it a bit, and here's what he seems to think about it:
"‘I’m not really Welsh other than being born there, although it must be said there have been many great actors born in Wales and I don’t mind one bit to be named among them..... I am always proud to say that I am from Derbyshire."
CraigBond's fictional biography has him down as being born in Berlin, but I'm not convinced Bond is supposed to be German
according to Pearson's James Bond: The Authorized Biography of 007
‘Something that Fleming never mentioned is where you were born.’ Bond swung round immediately.
‘Why ask me that?’
‘You said begin at the beginning.’
Bond smiled, somewhat ruefully, and paused before replying.
‘I suppose you have to know. The truth is that I'm a native of the Ruhr. I was born in a town called Wattenscheid – that's near Essen – on Armistice Day, 11 November 1920. I have not, I hasten to add, a drop of German blood in my veins – as far as one can ever be certain of such things. As Fleming says somewhere, my father was a Highland Scot, my mother Swiss.’
Andrew Bond was a sales rep for an arms firm and lived abroad, in Germany when Bond was born, in Paris, in Moscow at different times. I'm not sure Bond lived in Britain til his parents died.
so it seems like in this aspect the CraigBond films are following Pearson.
I think the closest Fleming ever got was in the Obit in You Only Live Twice
James Bond was born of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, from the Canton de Vaud. His father being a foreign representative of the Vickers armaments firm, his early education, from which he inherited a first-class command of French and German, was entirely abroad.
Higson must say something in the Young Bond books, which take place shortly after the parents' death, but i cant remember...
Thanks! Yes I did recall it not being a brand new thing that he was born in Germany when that came out. I have a feeling they may have also kept the 11/11 birthday too, but I'm not sure.
Edit: No I'm wrong there- in CR he was born 13th April 1968. In true Fleming style his birth year slipped a bit in later films 😁
It's incredible how formative the first years of your live can be. One of the boys in my middle school class (there were four of us) lived in Oslo the first five years of his life. Then his family family moved here:
Not being Norwegian you probably don't know this, but you don't talk with an Oslo dialect ("standard Norwegian") if you live somewhere where foreigners say "wow!" when seing the landscape. Except my classmate who still talks like he's still in Oslo!
I stand corrected about Dalton being Welsh. I always thought he was from the Midlands. So is it about time another Welshman took on the role?
Look at Tom Cullen's Welsh pedigree and body of work.
My preferences are 1st choice Tom Cullen, 2nd choice Charlie Hunnam, 3rd choice Henry Cavill and fourth Tom Hardy. Although I think Tom Hardy could possibly be the best ever Bond Villain ever cast he has that mischievousness about him, and could be cast as the main villain for several Bond films.
@The Domino Effect I would guess that the accent you hear occasionally in LTK especially is his probably his Derbyshire accent peeking out rather than a Welsh one.
Like in the scene with Sanchez where he says: "You were just in time. Things were about to turn nasteeh"😄
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We’ve already had a Welshman. Timothy Dalton.
if they can hire an Ozzie, the obvious next choice is a Canadian, and since the last fellow seemed to not even like the character, I'd prefer an actor with a proven love for and expertise in vintage 1960s SpyMania...
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A half-American, half-Englishman from Derbyshire 😁
He was born in Wales. Colwyn Bay. That’s good enough.
I hadn't realised that he left Wales when he was four years old. I have always thought I could detect a sight Welsh lilt in his voice, but if he was that young when he left, it's unlikely.
Still, every Welsh person I've ever chatted with about Dalton claims him as Welsh!
Well CraigBond's fictional biography has him down as being born in Berlin, but I'm not convinced Bond is supposed to be German 😉
Perhaps he does regard himself as Welsh, I don't know; but with no family roots there and only having ever lived there for four years as a baby, he doesn't seem the Welshest person in the world to me. If anything he seems more American than anything: he's half American by birth and has been living there for decades.
@The Domino Effect I would guess that the accent you hear occasionally in LTK especially is his probably his Derbyshire accent peeking out rather than a Welsh one.
I was curious to look into it a bit, and here's what he seems to think about it:
"‘I’m not really Welsh other than being born there, although it must be said there have been many great actors born in Wales and I don’t mind one bit to be named among them..... I am always proud to say that I am from Derbyshire."
Why James Bond actor Timothy Dalton is proud of his Belper roots
domino said:
Still, every Welsh person I've ever chatted with about Dalton claims him as Welsh!
every Canadian claims any famous person who's been in Canada longer than five minutes is Canadian
mtm said
CraigBond's fictional biography has him down as being born in Berlin, but I'm not convinced Bond is supposed to be German
according to Pearson's James Bond: The Authorized Biography of 007
‘Something that Fleming never mentioned is where you were born.’ Bond swung round immediately.
‘Why ask me that?’
‘You said begin at the beginning.’
Bond smiled, somewhat ruefully, and paused before replying.
‘I suppose you have to know. The truth is that I'm a native of the Ruhr. I was born in a town called Wattenscheid – that's near Essen – on Armistice Day, 11 November 1920. I have not, I hasten to add, a drop of German blood in my veins – as far as one can ever be certain of such things. As Fleming says somewhere, my father was a Highland Scot, my mother Swiss.’
Andrew Bond was a sales rep for an arms firm and lived abroad, in Germany when Bond was born, in Paris, in Moscow at different times. I'm not sure Bond lived in Britain til his parents died.
so it seems like in this aspect the CraigBond films are following Pearson.
I think the closest Fleming ever got was in the Obit in You Only Live Twice
James Bond was born of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, from the Canton de Vaud. His father being a foreign representative of the Vickers armaments firm, his early education, from which he inherited a first-class command of French and German, was entirely abroad.
Higson must say something in the Young Bond books, which take place shortly after the parents' death, but i cant remember...
Thanks! Yes I did recall it not being a brand new thing that he was born in Germany when that came out. I have a feeling they may have also kept the 11/11 birthday too, but I'm not sure.
Edit: No I'm wrong there- in CR he was born 13th April 1968. In true Fleming style his birth year slipped a bit in later films 😁
https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_21_007_dossier1.php3
Well CraigBond's fictional biography has him down as being born in Berlin
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?! Maybe I could be next 😁
"- That is something to be afraid of."
It's incredible how formative the first years of your live can be. One of the boys in my middle school class (there were four of us) lived in Oslo the first five years of his life. Then his family family moved here:
Not being Norwegian you probably don't know this, but you don't talk with an Oslo dialect ("standard Norwegian") if you live somewhere where foreigners say "wow!" when seing the landscape. Except my classmate who still talks like he's still in Oslo!
I stand corrected about Dalton being Welsh. I always thought he was from the Midlands. So is it about time another Welshman took on the role?
Look at Tom Cullen's Welsh pedigree and body of work.
My preferences are 1st choice Tom Cullen, 2nd choice Charlie Hunnam, 3rd choice Henry Cavill and fourth Tom Hardy. Although I think Tom Hardy could possibly be the best ever Bond Villain ever cast he has that mischievousness about him, and could be cast as the main villain for several Bond films.
I stand corrected about Dalton being Welsh. I always thought he was from the Midlands..
You're right though, he is from the Midlands! 😊
@The Domino Effect I would guess that the accent you hear occasionally in LTK especially is his probably his Derbyshire accent peeking out rather than a Welsh one.
Like in the scene with Sanchez where he says: "You were just in time. Things were about to turn nasteeh"😄