I believe the whole debacle began when an argument broke out between the two groups in the Top of the Pops studio. This particular Libertines fan read about it on some fan site and decided to take revenge. That TOTP edition is available on YouTube, simply search 'Top of the Pops 1914'.
The rest is history.
Author of 'An Ungentlemanly Act' and 'Execution of Duty'. The WW2 espionage series starring Harry Flynn.
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,844MI6 Agent
Well, he did pop the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife certainly.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
I don't have nightmares but my dreams are not always lovely - that said, last night I dreamt I was watching the new James Bond film.
Inspired perhaps by the return of Michael Keaton as Beetlejuice, the pre-credits had Piece Brosnan returning as James Bond - looking ruddier and in his 50s but not unrealistic given he is today slim and sports a full head of hair. His Bond was undercover of sorts, posing as the director of an exotic health spa in some foreign territory, flat terrain, metropolitan, red rock or Colorado, Jacuzzis, red Coke bottles in the ice buckets, something sinister afoot about to unfold. That said, the overall vibe was comedic, with knowing nods to the audience. It was a real pleasure to be sat in a Bond film where the whole vibe was, how much are we going to entertain you now, rather than 'something depressing is about to occur'. That and the idea that somehow this was a prequel to the Craig years, or a something, a parallel universe dealing with unfinished business, and the Brosnan era being a time before things might have gone wrong in life, before it 'slides out of view' as Jarvis Cocker sang, before parents start to get ill, fade away and then die.
It had the feel of David Tennant reappearing as the Doctor, or David Cameron walking up Downing Street to be put in the Cabinet - as if you can just return things to how they used to be.
Naturally this was the day I chose to set my alarm a bit earlier than usual, so instead of settling down to a new Bond movie, I was forced to wake up and face the day.
That sounds like a very enjoyable dream and I hope you continue it tonight 😌.
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That did sound like a pleasant dream, @Napoleon Plural. I know what you mean about returning to a time when things were happier. David, now Lord Cameron, did return to the Cabinet as Foreign Secretary in November 2023 though he didn't have very long in the post before the Tories lost the July 2024 General Election. In fact he was the first ex-prime minister to return to the Cabinet since Sir Alec Douglas-Home returned as Foreign Secretary in 1970.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Ex-PMs who return to cabinet as a department minister is rare. Personally I can't think of a single one in my country. They go on as leaders of their party in hope of becoming PMs again, retire or become leaders of organisations like NATO. I like that Cameron did that, it looks a lot like humility and sense of duty.
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,844MI6 Agent
Yes, it used to be a bit more common in the past in the UK with coalition and National Governments which saw former prime ministers return to Cabinet in some role or other. It is rarer these days certainly. I recall Cameron saying years ago that he'd like to return as Foreign Secretary at some point as he felt he hadn't much to do apart from write his memoirs and felt he was too young to completely retire from frontline politics. Cameron resigning as an MP in 2016 probably didn't help though Sunak found a way around that by making him a life peer instead.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
No such luck last night, it was a dream about my favourite TV show as a kind, Rentaghost - in the form of Timothy Claypole or maybe just the actor who played him, in a suit on a train. Agreeable but...
However, it is inappropriate for me to relay each night's dream on this forum so I will instead convey the information on a daily basis via PM to Barbel given that he has expressed an interest.
"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,844MI6 Agent
Yes, because of our "first past the post" electoral system we have coalition governments more rarely here in the UK though the most recent one was the 2010-15 Conservative and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government caused by a hung parliament. Reforms to the UK constitution are usually slow and piecemeal I'm nature. However, there are plans afoot under the new Labour Government to remove the remaining 90 hereditary peers from the House of Lords, completing a reform started in 1999 under New Labour. That would limit membership of the Upper House to life peerages only.
According to the article below it does seem quite unlikely but I suppose he could pop up at some stage in one of those Doctor Who episodes where all the living previous doctors appear together?
I thought @Silhouette Man was English, he's got UK down as his domicile, or British anyway.
Explains joke... right, Cameron did indeed return to Downing St, as appointed by Rishi Sunak. And David Tennant did indeed return as Dr Who, unveiled as the new Doctor after the female doctor got phased out, and a surprise revelation as we were expecting the new black actor to be unveiled. Albeit, Tennant was only back for an episode or two...
So Brosnan's return as Bond would be like that and actually I like the idea more and more, it would cleanse the palate a bit. Still, he's done those kind of things since, sort of straight-to-video spy movies where he comes out of retirement.
"This is where we leave you Mr Bond."
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Silhouette ManThe last refuge of a scoundrelPosts: 8,844MI6 Agent
Well, I'm Northern Irish so close enough I suppose. Happily, we're still part of the UK. 🙂
Ah, now I get it! So, it was satire. I did wonder to be honest. I'm not a big Doctor Who fan (can you tell?!) having only seen the City of Death serial from Tom Baker's days as the Doctor. I watched it a few years ago on DVD as I wanted to see Julian Glover as the villain in it. I enjoyed it and I think Baker was the best Doctor. Funny, I thought I remembered hearing that David Tennant had returned as the Doctor but when I quickly Googled it I could find no trace of it so I supposed I was mistaken. Hence, my rather confused response. Hope that clears things up! 😀
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
Well last night I dreamt that the late Queen had treatment for constipation - either I dreamt that or it was in a review of Craig Brown's new book about her.
Actually I did read once that the Northern Irish find such matters absolutely hilarious so who knows maybe that will be up your alley!
You definitely have some random dreams! They're certainly much more interesting than the anxiety dreams I seem to specialise in where I've got an assignment to hand in but I haven't even started it yet or I'm walking around in public and I suddenly realise I have no trousers on. I probably have other dreams too but I can't remember any of them upon waking. You're right about the Northern Irish, they do have a good sense of humour.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
I think the 'no time left to revise for an exam' dream which I mentioned before may be linked to the sense of time running out as you get older. Like the clocks running down in the credits of OHMSS. It may be linked to being stuck in a rut, so such a feeling can creep up and take one by surprise, we've both mentioned the thing of having writer's block where you need to complete a project but can't even get started on it.
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Rumour has it that Gavrilo Princip was a fan of rival group The Libertines.
Author of 'An Ungentlemanly Act' and 'Execution of Duty'. The WW2 espionage series starring Harry Flynn.
Yes, it's a tragedy but such divergences in musical taste could sadly never peacefully co-exist.
Even though Gavrilo Princip had his own band named the Black Hand. They were a one-hit wonder (dark humor ....)
Was he a Goth? [This really has to stop].
Absolutely, and in a dignified manner. Can anyone please bring in someone with dignity?
I'm sure Gavrilo Princip would be a big fan of Serbian turbofolk (real genere) if he was around today.
I believe the whole debacle began when an argument broke out between the two groups in the Top of the Pops studio. This particular Libertines fan read about it on some fan site and decided to take revenge. That TOTP edition is available on YouTube, simply search 'Top of the Pops 1914'.
The rest is history.
Author of 'An Ungentlemanly Act' and 'Execution of Duty'. The WW2 espionage series starring Harry Flynn.
Well, he did pop the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife certainly.
I don't have nightmares but my dreams are not always lovely - that said, last night I dreamt I was watching the new James Bond film.
Inspired perhaps by the return of Michael Keaton as Beetlejuice, the pre-credits had Piece Brosnan returning as James Bond - looking ruddier and in his 50s but not unrealistic given he is today slim and sports a full head of hair. His Bond was undercover of sorts, posing as the director of an exotic health spa in some foreign territory, flat terrain, metropolitan, red rock or Colorado, Jacuzzis, red Coke bottles in the ice buckets, something sinister afoot about to unfold. That said, the overall vibe was comedic, with knowing nods to the audience. It was a real pleasure to be sat in a Bond film where the whole vibe was, how much are we going to entertain you now, rather than 'something depressing is about to occur'. That and the idea that somehow this was a prequel to the Craig years, or a something, a parallel universe dealing with unfinished business, and the Brosnan era being a time before things might have gone wrong in life, before it 'slides out of view' as Jarvis Cocker sang, before parents start to get ill, fade away and then die.
It had the feel of David Tennant reappearing as the Doctor, or David Cameron walking up Downing Street to be put in the Cabinet - as if you can just return things to how they used to be.
Naturally this was the day I chose to set my alarm a bit earlier than usual, so instead of settling down to a new Bond movie, I was forced to wake up and face the day.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
That sounds like a very enjoyable dream and I hope you continue it tonight 😌.
That did sound like a pleasant dream, @Napoleon Plural. I know what you mean about returning to a time when things were happier. David, now Lord Cameron, did return to the Cabinet as Foreign Secretary in November 2023 though he didn't have very long in the post before the Tories lost the July 2024 General Election. In fact he was the first ex-prime minister to return to the Cabinet since Sir Alec Douglas-Home returned as Foreign Secretary in 1970.
Ex-PMs who return to cabinet as a department minister is rare. Personally I can't think of a single one in my country. They go on as leaders of their party in hope of becoming PMs again, retire or become leaders of organisations like NATO. I like that Cameron did that, it looks a lot like humility and sense of duty.
Yes, it used to be a bit more common in the past in the UK with coalition and National Governments which saw former prime ministers return to Cabinet in some role or other. It is rarer these days certainly. I recall Cameron saying years ago that he'd like to return as Foreign Secretary at some point as he felt he hadn't much to do apart from write his memoirs and felt he was too young to completely retire from frontline politics. Cameron resigning as an MP in 2016 probably didn't help though Sunak found a way around that by making him a life peer instead.
Coalition governments is the norm here, but the last Norwegian titled nobleman died in 1897. That's not an option anymore and we like it that way.
@Silhouette Man pops up to inform me that David Cameron did in fact return to the Cabinet...
Well, at least nobody has pointed out that David Tennant returned as Doctor Who, I mean I would have heard about that anyway...
Roger Moore 1927-2017
😁😁😁
No such luck last night, it was a dream about my favourite TV show as a kind, Rentaghost - in the form of Timothy Claypole or maybe just the actor who played him, in a suit on a train. Agreeable but...
However, it is inappropriate for me to relay each night's dream on this forum so I will instead convey the information on a daily basis via PM to Barbel given that he has expressed an interest.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Yes, because of our "first past the post" electoral system we have coalition governments more rarely here in the UK though the most recent one was the 2010-15 Conservative and Liberal Democrat Coalition Government caused by a hung parliament. Reforms to the UK constitution are usually slow and piecemeal I'm nature. However, there are plans afoot under the new Labour Government to remove the remaining 90 hereditary peers from the House of Lords, completing a reform started in 1999 under New Labour. That would limit membership of the Upper House to life peerages only.
According to the article below it does seem quite unlikely but I suppose he could pop up at some stage in one of those Doctor Who episodes where all the living previous doctors appear together?
I can't tell any more - is he trolling me?
Roger Moore 1927-2017
😂😂😂 You must excuse him, Napoleon. Not being English @Silhouette Man sometimes finds your sense of humour rather difficult to follow.
Oh, wait a minute- I'm not English either....
Not attempting to troll, @Napoleon Plural. Perhaps we've gotten our wires crossed? 🙂
I thought @Silhouette Man was English, he's got UK down as his domicile, or British anyway.
Explains joke... right, Cameron did indeed return to Downing St, as appointed by Rishi Sunak. And David Tennant did indeed return as Dr Who, unveiled as the new Doctor after the female doctor got phased out, and a surprise revelation as we were expecting the new black actor to be unveiled. Albeit, Tennant was only back for an episode or two...
So Brosnan's return as Bond would be like that and actually I like the idea more and more, it would cleanse the palate a bit. Still, he's done those kind of things since, sort of straight-to-video spy movies where he comes out of retirement.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Well, I'm Northern Irish so close enough I suppose. Happily, we're still part of the UK. 🙂
Ah, now I get it! So, it was satire. I did wonder to be honest. I'm not a big Doctor Who fan (can you tell?!) having only seen the City of Death serial from Tom Baker's days as the Doctor. I watched it a few years ago on DVD as I wanted to see Julian Glover as the villain in it. I enjoyed it and I think Baker was the best Doctor. Funny, I thought I remembered hearing that David Tennant had returned as the Doctor but when I quickly Googled it I could find no trace of it so I supposed I was mistaken. Hence, my rather confused response. Hope that clears things up! 😀
Well last night I dreamt that the late Queen had treatment for constipation - either I dreamt that or it was in a review of Craig Brown's new book about her.
Actually I did read once that the Northern Irish find such matters absolutely hilarious so who knows maybe that will be up your alley!
My dreams have returned to more humdrum fare.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
Last night I dreamt that the Bride and I were selling oat milk from a cart in a car park. Can't get more humdrum.
Dream big!
Please don't tell the moderators I have posted political videos here. 😉
You definitely have some random dreams! They're certainly much more interesting than the anxiety dreams I seem to specialise in where I've got an assignment to hand in but I haven't even started it yet or I'm walking around in public and I suddenly realise I have no trousers on. I probably have other dreams too but I can't remember any of them upon waking. You're right about the Northern Irish, they do have a good sense of humour.
I think the 'no time left to revise for an exam' dream which I mentioned before may be linked to the sense of time running out as you get older. Like the clocks running down in the credits of OHMSS. It may be linked to being stuck in a rut, so such a feeling can creep up and take one by surprise, we've both mentioned the thing of having writer's block where you need to complete a project but can't even get started on it.
Roger Moore 1927-2017
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