Thanks! To make myself clearer I imagine Watson's boss isn't one of the bad guys at all. Her evil activities were hidden or given false explanations by Watson's character. Her boss could even be played by an actor who's often cast as a villain to further mislead the audience.
I have an idea, but let me give you some bacground first. Eirik Kristoffersen is the Chief of Defence in Norway, the highest ranking military officer and leader of all of the armed forces. His background is from cavalry long range recon and the army special forces and he commanded both units. He served with the special forces in Afghanistan. Here he is in the Tora Bora mountains:
Once his patrol was tasked with capturing an Taliban leader. They took control of the house in question, sent a picture of the men there, Intelligence picked out the man based on the photo , and Norwegian SF handed handed the prisoner over to the Afghan intelligence service, some say to "enhanced coercive interrogation techniques". But later it was discovered this wasn't the right man, maybe a simple brick-layer. Here is the idea: What if the special forces officer was Commander Bond of the Special Boat Service and the person who pointed the finger at the wrong man was M? The captured man develops a burning hatred for James Bond, M and the UK. Maybe the man was a former officer in the Afghan army (fought the Soviets as a part of the Mujahedin) who retired as a shopkeeper or something before this happened? Later he settled outside of Afghanistan, got a high degree as a geologist and created a big, international company working on large constructions such as hydropowerdams, tunnels etc. This work includes large-scale demolitions.
That's a good background for a Bond villain. I even know have an idea for who can play him: Art Malik. He's a British actor aged 71, and most of us know him best as Kamram Shah in TLD. He can't play the same person, but the link is nice.
Kristoffersen with king Harald V. Kristoffersen got the highest medal for bravery for the mission mentioned above.
In fact that bacground would fit perfectly with another plot idea I've posted earlier:
I have an idea for a traditional-style plan for the villain. Let's imagine the villain lives in the Middle East or Asia and he hates Europe and America. He places a large bomb in the vulcano Cumbre Vieja of the Canary Islands. Here is somthing I found on the web:
"Geological evidence suggests that during a future eruption, Cumbre Vieja Volcano on the Island of La Palma may experience a catastrophic failure of its west flank, dropping 150 to 500 km3 of rock into the sea.
Using a geologically reasonable estimate of landslide motion, we model tsunami waves produced by such a collapse. Waves generated by the run-out of a 500 km3 (150 km3) slide block at 100 m/s could transit the entire Atlantic Basin and arrive on the coasts of the Americas with 10-25 m (3-8 m) height."
In other words an eruption in this vulcano would lead to a giant tsunami on the west coast of North and South America and much of Europe. West Africa would probably take the worst of the damage, but as so often before this will be considered acceptable collateral damage by the bad guys. . Putting tons of explosives or a atomic bomb in the crater could set it of. After having villains who have much more modest plans, it's time for Craig to face a megalomaniac, world threatening (well, parts of it ...) villain!"
I just saw the Israeli Minister of Defence on TV (I'm not commenting on whatever is happening in that part of the world, but I understand they live in interesting times). But his name is Yoav Gallant. Gallant is a great name for a Bond movie character in my opinion. There are lots of good, colourful and Bondian names in the real world, and the Bond writers should learn from this!
Emma Watson's fans from the Harry Potter days are now in their 30's and of course many of them are women. This is a group the Bond movies need in the future. Cast her as I mentioned earlier and cast another famous actor who's well known for playing villains as her boss. Because of public personas and movie personas many people will assume her character is on Bond's side. (but knowing movie companies they'll probably will spoil it in the trailers). Watson is hardly desperate when it comes to money, but we haven't seen her in a major movie since Little Women (2019) and not in a spectacular blockbuster since the Beauty and the Beast back in 2019. She has never played a villain in a big movie. And Emma no longer looks like Hermione!
Yes there is one female villain in the Bond movies. But as seen above there are many things that can be done differently from what the writers did with King thirty years ago.
I imagine Emma Watson playing a head of the science and research branch of a company or something like that, not the CEO and owner. I imagine her character to come across as a smart, wholesome and polite, much closer to Watson's public persona than Elektra King.
But later in the movie it turns out the CEO who the MI6 suspected was in fact innocent and Emma's character is the real villain. Then she can play a new type of character the audience and herself are unused to.
I concur with the sentiment here; the thing I would add? A lone Brit wouldn't be deployed against a threat of global significance, in reality (I know, it's a film...) he'd spend months preparing to even leave Dear Auld Blighty, but anything he WAS sent out to deal with would have much more backup as near as possible than Bond ever got. Specialist military signal unit? Yep. Extraction plan with UKSF? Ditto. I'd try to make Bond more 'believable', by adding some of these elements, but it would have to be a balancing act between a poor sod arguing over his petrol receipts and what courses he hadn't done and 007 - No-one wants to see too much 'real', do they? Anyhow... interesting points. Yours, if not mine...
Haven't read that one, but of course Fleming was a keen Alpinist - Bond's parents went off the edge we're told, maybe it was Moider? so perhaps there could be a bit where Bond goes climbing (Working on personal fitness or just for fun - assuming that's fun) and he might find himself at THAT spot etc/so forth. So long as we don't go full-on 'avenge their murders' or anything, it might fit...
The recent hits on a lot of key Hezbollah figures in Lebanon and Syria using exploding pagers is new (at least at that scale) and wouldn’t be out of place in a Bond movie. Many of us have opinions on who did it and the general situation in the Middle East, but this isn't the place to go into that. A version of this would be exiting in a Bond movie. Maybe MI6 agents are equiped with some modern gadget that explodes. Who's behind it? Did Q branch slip up with security somehow? Is there someone from the enemy inside MI6 and even Q branch?
This is just one way an event like this could inspire Bond movies.
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That's a bit like this bombing. The same day the Lebanon attacks happend there was speculation that Mossad had hacked the pagers and managed to everheat the lithiym batteries to make them explode. That's comparable to the chemistry used to make the money explode in TWINE.
I continue my campaign for more fun and exotic names in modern Bond movies. The Belgian minister of justice (who has suffers for his clear stance against the criminals smugling cocaine into Europe) is named Vincent Van Quickenborne. Wouldn't you like to see Bond meet of with an ally, henchman or even villain with such a name?
They are. Exotic and fun names are also more memorable, not to mention fun. The only thing I don't like about Franz Sanchez in LTK is his boring name. Fun and memorable names exist in real life. I've mentioned the Swedish model Desiree Inglander. The Norwegian actress Jenny Moan died not too long ago and I'm can make a very modest bet that there are men in Norway named Odd Lie. I don't think we'll get names in Bond movies with names like Pussy Galore again, but I'd like to see the scriptwriters have more fun naming their characters in the future.
Don't forget, if male characters had names as suggestive as the female ones in Bond films, 'Roger Moore' would be right up there as one of the more ridiculous ones.
In the past I've said Bond should use older technology to avid the problems of today's technology, especially to avoid bugging or to hide his location, it also looks cooler and more interesting than the using the internet. The Germans seem to think the same:
I'm not saying bond should start using typewriters. But as an example Bond may be at a hotel. The opposition knows he's about to receive very important message, so they monitor his phone and other tech to intercept it. But in the morning Bond just walks down to the lobby and asks if there's any mail for him. Bond gets handed a letter, he sits down and reads it before setting fire to it with a lighter. Simple, funny and cool.
Mr MartiniThat nice house in the sky.Posts: 2,709MI6 Agent
Sounds like Mission Impossible. Getting the mission through a "low tech" type of thing. Then have it self destruct. Only difference is, Bond destroys the message instead of having it self destruct.
Some people would complain even if you hang them with a new rope
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Thanks! To make myself clearer I imagine Watson's boss isn't one of the bad guys at all. Her evil activities were hidden or given false explanations by Watson's character. Her boss could even be played by an actor who's often cast as a villain to further mislead the audience.
I think Emma Watson would make a decent Moneypenny too.
True, but I think she's a too big star to be Moneypenny.
I have an idea, but let me give you some bacground first. Eirik Kristoffersen is the Chief of Defence in Norway, the highest ranking military officer and leader of all of the armed forces. His background is from cavalry long range recon and the army special forces and he commanded both units. He served with the special forces in Afghanistan. Here he is in the Tora Bora mountains:
Once his patrol was tasked with capturing an Taliban leader. They took control of the house in question, sent a picture of the men there, Intelligence picked out the man based on the photo , and Norwegian SF handed handed the prisoner over to the Afghan intelligence service, some say to "enhanced coercive interrogation techniques". But later it was discovered this wasn't the right man, maybe a simple brick-layer. Here is the idea: What if the special forces officer was Commander Bond of the Special Boat Service and the person who pointed the finger at the wrong man was M? The captured man develops a burning hatred for James Bond, M and the UK. Maybe the man was a former officer in the Afghan army (fought the Soviets as a part of the Mujahedin) who retired as a shopkeeper or something before this happened? Later he settled outside of Afghanistan, got a high degree as a geologist and created a big, international company working on large constructions such as hydropowerdams, tunnels etc. This work includes large-scale demolitions.
That's a good background for a Bond villain. I even know have an idea for who can play him: Art Malik. He's a British actor aged 71, and most of us know him best as Kamram Shah in TLD. He can't play the same person, but the link is nice.
Kristoffersen with king Harald V. Kristoffersen got the highest medal for bravery for the mission mentioned above.
In fact that bacground would fit perfectly with another plot idea I've posted earlier:
I have an idea for a traditional-style plan for the villain. Let's imagine the villain lives in the Middle East or Asia and he hates Europe and America. He places a large bomb in the vulcano Cumbre Vieja of the Canary Islands. Here is somthing I found on the web:
"Geological evidence suggests that during a future eruption, Cumbre Vieja Volcano on the Island of La Palma may experience a catastrophic failure of its west flank, dropping 150 to 500 km3 of rock into the sea.
Using a geologically reasonable estimate of landslide motion, we model tsunami waves produced by such a collapse. Waves generated by the run-out of a 500 km3 (150 km3) slide block at 100 m/s could transit the entire Atlantic Basin and arrive on the coasts of the Americas with 10-25 m (3-8 m) height."
In other words an eruption in this vulcano would lead to a giant tsunami on the west coast of North and South America and much of Europe. West Africa would probably take the worst of the damage, but as so often before this will be considered acceptable collateral damage by the bad guys. . Putting tons of explosives or a atomic bomb in the crater could set it of. After having villains who have much more modest plans, it's time for Craig to face a megalomaniac, world threatening (well, parts of it ...) villain!"
You know, that plot could be workable.
I think so.
I just saw the Israeli Minister of Defence on TV (I'm not commenting on whatever is happening in that part of the world, but I understand they live in interesting times). But his name is Yoav Gallant. Gallant is a great name for a Bond movie character in my opinion. There are lots of good, colourful and Bondian names in the real world, and the Bond writers should learn from this!
Emma Watson's fans from the Harry Potter days are now in their 30's and of course many of them are women. This is a group the Bond movies need in the future. Cast her as I mentioned earlier and cast another famous actor who's well known for playing villains as her boss. Because of public personas and movie personas many people will assume her character is on Bond's side. (but knowing movie companies they'll probably will spoil it in the trailers). Watson is hardly desperate when it comes to money, but we haven't seen her in a major movie since Little Women (2019) and not in a spectacular blockbuster since the Beauty and the Beast back in 2019. She has never played a villain in a big movie. And Emma no longer looks like Hermione!
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Number24, has she not been in anything for five years? No cameos, no TV, nothing? That seems strange.
She's been in a short for Prada, that's all. I know Watson has been making gin with her brother
So give her the Elektra King treatment?
Yes there is one female villain in the Bond movies. But as seen above there are many things that can be done differently from what the writers did with King thirty years ago.
To expand on my above post:
I imagine Emma Watson playing a head of the science and research branch of a company or something like that, not the CEO and owner. I imagine her character to come across as a smart, wholesome and polite, much closer to Watson's public persona than Elektra King.
But later in the movie it turns out the CEO who the MI6 suspected was in fact innocent and Emma's character is the real villain. Then she can play a new type of character the audience and herself are unused to.
Yes I believe that got her on the list of top earners recently: she's rolling in it from gin.
I didn't know her gin business was doing so well, but she wouldn't sign on to an acting job just for the money anyway.
Putin should be the villain. Lets put Smersh into movie Bond!
the only time the Russians have directly been the villain in a BondFilm, its been a rogue Russian general non representative of official State policy
The irony is, if they had a rogue Russian general in a BondFilm today, a rogue would be one of the good guys
I concur with the sentiment here; the thing I would add? A lone Brit wouldn't be deployed against a threat of global significance, in reality (I know, it's a film...) he'd spend months preparing to even leave Dear Auld Blighty, but anything he WAS sent out to deal with would have much more backup as near as possible than Bond ever got. Specialist military signal unit? Yep. Extraction plan with UKSF? Ditto. I'd try to make Bond more 'believable', by adding some of these elements, but it would have to be a balancing act between a poor sod arguing over his petrol receipts and what courses he hadn't done and 007 - No-one wants to see too much 'real', do they? Anyhow... interesting points. Yours, if not mine...
Haven't read that one, but of course Fleming was a keen Alpinist - Bond's parents went off the edge we're told, maybe it was Moider? so perhaps there could be a bit where Bond goes climbing (Working on personal fitness or just for fun - assuming that's fun) and he might find himself at THAT spot etc/so forth. So long as we don't go full-on 'avenge their murders' or anything, it might fit...
Again I'd like to push for a snowmobile vs cars/motorcycles chase in an urban area!
The recent hits on a lot of key Hezbollah figures in Lebanon and Syria using exploding pagers is new (at least at that scale) and wouldn’t be out of place in a Bond movie. Many of us have opinions on who did it and the general situation in the Middle East, but this isn't the place to go into that. A version of this would be exiting in a Bond movie. Maybe MI6 agents are equiped with some modern gadget that explodes. Who's behind it? Did Q branch slip up with security somehow? Is there someone from the enemy inside MI6 and even Q branch?
This is just one way an event like this could inspire Bond movies.
I refer back to TWINE and how Robert King was killed. The pin he was wearing acted as the transmitter to detonate the bomb in the money.
That's a bit like this bombing. The same day the Lebanon attacks happend there was speculation that Mossad had hacked the pagers and managed to everheat the lithiym batteries to make them explode. That's comparable to the chemistry used to make the money explode in TWINE.
I continue my campaign for more fun and exotic names in modern Bond movies. The Belgian minister of justice (who has suffers for his clear stance against the criminals smugling cocaine into Europe) is named Vincent Van Quickenborne. Wouldn't you like to see Bond meet of with an ally, henchman or even villain with such a name?
Yes, exotically named Bond characters are good since they add to the atmosphere.
They are. Exotic and fun names are also more memorable, not to mention fun. The only thing I don't like about Franz Sanchez in LTK is his boring name. Fun and memorable names exist in real life. I've mentioned the Swedish model Desiree Inglander. The Norwegian actress Jenny Moan died not too long ago and I'm can make a very modest bet that there are men in Norway named Odd Lie. I don't think we'll get names in Bond movies with names like Pussy Galore again, but I'd like to see the scriptwriters have more fun naming their characters in the future.
Don't forget, if male characters had names as suggestive as the female ones in Bond films, 'Roger Moore' would be right up there as one of the more ridiculous ones.
I can't believe they got away with that one!
In the past I've said Bond should use older technology to avid the problems of today's technology, especially to avoid bugging or to hide his location, it also looks cooler and more interesting than the using the internet. The Germans seem to think the same:
I'm not saying bond should start using typewriters. But as an example Bond may be at a hotel. The opposition knows he's about to receive very important message, so they monitor his phone and other tech to intercept it. But in the morning Bond just walks down to the lobby and asks if there's any mail for him. Bond gets handed a letter, he sits down and reads it before setting fire to it with a lighter. Simple, funny and cool.
Sounds like Mission Impossible. Getting the mission through a "low tech" type of thing. Then have it self destruct. Only difference is, Bond destroys the message instead of having it self destruct.