I repeat my question then. Would your bet your house on that? Are you absolutely sure this track IS reliable and do you think Mescal's odds are relevant considering the other candidates?
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,917Chief of Staff
Ahh…so this ‘information’ is from someone who works for a brand…not someone from inside Eon then…? 🫤
They say “after Gladiator comes out”…so that would allude to, most likely, January 2025? 🤔
Be interesting if it is Omega…as we know a person that has very high links there too 😉
I agree with N24…you’ve had a lot of pushback…but it’s very easy to come on here and throw names around without any proof just for shits & giggles, it’s happened before…I still think you’ve been given a bum steer, possibly with the best of intentions…someone I know has said it’s utter nonsense - that’s good enough for me 🙂
I may as well just be honest now due to all of your kind words haha. It was someone very senior at Omega who confirmed they have made the watch and have been told already who it is
I'll take a massive pinch of salt with it, but who knows, maybe there's something there. I wouldn't be upset with Mescal as choice if it did eventually turn out to be him, he's very of the now and the ladies certainly like him. To be frank, this rumour is more believable than the bollocks The Sun keep printing about Taylor-Johnson being announced as Bond next week, even if it doesn't quite convince.
I wonder how the Cartier thing would work out, but I guess it would just be a contract swap.
Was this article ever discussed on these forums? The idea of possibly two actors playing Bond in one film - an older one in the current time period and a younger one set in the past?
I must say I did think of the idea of EON not using two actors but going for a single younger actor and then using makeup/ visual trickery to make him look older and younger and have the film set in the present time and past.
Something like how Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale play younger and older versions of their characters in the film The Prestige.
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,917Chief of Staff
Yeah…ASP9mm said as much before about the Omega watch…and provided pics…now, if I was a cynical person 😏 I could just say you used the info already provided…and I honestly doubt even the CEO of Omega would be informed of the next actor to play Bond before someone in the Eon family…🤔
I'd really like someone here to explain the link between the brands and the identity of the new actor. Personally, I think this link simply does not exist.
Let's suppose I'm the CEO of Omega. What does it change for me to know whether Mescal, ATJ or my concierge's son is going to be the next Bond? A man is a man, a wrist is a wrist, and a watch remains a watch.
Does anyone here seriously believe the product is made specifically with respect to the chosen one's profile? The Seamaster Craig wears in CR has a generic design which is very similar to Brosnan's Seamasters. That's the ultimate proof the actor's identity doesn't really matter. The genuine brand is Bond, whoever gets the gig.
I guess it is a little different for Omega as they tend to sign up the Bond actor as an ambassador outside of and on top of their role as Bond (I think they did that with Brosnan at the time but happy to be corrected), but I agree that it feels like there’s plenty of time to do that once any film production starts rolling.
Craig supposedly had input into his watch for NTTD, but I wouldn’t expect that to be the case every time in future, especially for a new actor.
@emtiem you said it. They have plenty of time and there's no need to have the guy as an ambassador while the set and production design are still off. If I'm not wrong, neither Brosnan nor Craig wore a Seamaster during their announcement.
As you said, Mescal is a Cartier ambassador. That isn’t going to change anytime soon if his contract was for three years, which is usually the very minimum. So if he was to become Bond, he would not be allowed to wear an Omega outside of being in that role. Bond would then be the sole ambassador for Omega. Same as Craig wasn’t an Omega ambassador when he first started out as Bond, as he wore Rolex pretty much all of the time in his personal life until after QoS I believe. Craig developed a very unique relationship with Omega during pre production on SF, and so had direct input into the watch designs. A new Bond actor coming along would never have that input. A new Bond watch would be just that. The new actor would have zero influence on the design at this point in any capacity. Be it hands on, or Omega knowing who that was.
As for Brosnan, he only became an Omega ambassador after TWINE. So wasn't signed up immediately.
I’d be surprised if this new watch is connected in any way to the new film. They aren’t going to have a product on the market for a couple of years before the film is released. They’ll want a new watch premiered with the film for maximum marketing and sales hype.
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That would be monumentally unprofessional and career/job suicide to be spewing such information in a very public space. It’s a breach of so many NDAs that it would also be very costly when the inevitable cluster of EON lawyers come after them too. So they were either winding people up, or have no regard as to their future.
A quick google says Mescal has been a Cartier ambassador since 2022, so if it was a three year contract then quite possible for him to swap next year, and potentially Omega would want to start the wooing ASAP.
It's all moot of course as the info is a little suspect, but quite fun to imagine.
the idea that a corporate sponsor doing tie-in marketting has so much alleged influence bothers me, makes me even less interested in Bond26 than I already am.
but lets say this watch company is putting plans in place for a series of commercials with the new James Bond before the actors even been announced by EON ... I dont want the first appearance of the new James Bond to be in some product's teevee commercial! it should be within the film, rewarding us after months of anticipation we finally get to see the new guys approach as part of the new story!
we all speculated for month about what CraigBond would be like, then one day the film opened and we watched him break a sink with a man's face, and there he was, our new badass grim'n'gritty Bond! that scene would have been anticlimactic if we'd already seen him on teevee for months beforehand shilling Big Macs or whatever
the same with Dalton and Brosnans first appearance within their respective films: that bit in the precredits where the new guy first reveals his face and aproach is too important to water it down with some teevee commercials spoiling the surprise
anyway @fulhambond maybe you misheard this conversation you overheard in the bar. maybe Mezcal isnt the name of the new actor, but of one of the new corporate sponsors. Bond drinking Mezcal would certainly be an improvement from Heinekin!
Sir MilesThe Wrong Side Of The WardrobePosts: 27,917Chief of Staff
I'd say that’s one of the better JB lists I've seen for some time. Only British men, only actors and with one or two exceptions all are the right age range.
Yeah, I think 5,6,7 and 13 are nonsense, but other than that that’s a pretty sensible list of potentials. I think it’s only really missing Sope Dirisu, Nick Hoult, Josh O’Connor and maybe Leo Suter. I think Mescal is a solid choice but I’ve also got my eye on Pierre.
I'll agree Cillian Murphy and Tom Hardy shouldn't be on the list. They're nearly fifty years old. Norton and Cavill are not nonsense candidates in my opinion.
The fact the actor is unknown to the global audience doesn't mean he's not good enough.
A producer is not someone who just invests money and hopes for a 'reasonable rate of return' to quote Le Chiffre. A good producer is a talent scout, and I'm sure there are candidates within the world of theatre who would be wonderful, and I find the concept very seductive.
Are you talking about someone with zero screen experience? It’s not going to happen; they don’t do that for any acting role in these films, let alone the lead.
The article is not very interesting but there's one element that might draw one's attention. Page's contract with Longines started in 2021. @Asp9mm you're right, three years seems to be the minimum.
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I repeat my question then. Would your bet your house on that? Are you absolutely sure this track IS reliable and do you think Mescal's odds are relevant considering the other candidates?
Ahh…so this ‘information’ is from someone who works for a brand…not someone from inside Eon then…? 🫤
They say “after Gladiator comes out”…so that would allude to, most likely, January 2025? 🤔
Be interesting if it is Omega…as we know a person that has very high links there too 😉
I agree with N24…you’ve had a lot of pushback…but it’s very easy to come on here and throw names around without any proof just for shits & giggles, it’s happened before…I still think you’ve been given a bum steer, possibly with the best of intentions…someone I know has said it’s utter nonsense - that’s good enough for me 🙂
I may as well just be honest now due to all of your kind words haha. It was someone very senior at Omega who confirmed they have made the watch and have been told already who it is
I'll take a massive pinch of salt with it, but who knows, maybe there's something there. I wouldn't be upset with Mescal as choice if it did eventually turn out to be him, he's very of the now and the ladies certainly like him. To be frank, this rumour is more believable than the bollocks The Sun keep printing about Taylor-Johnson being announced as Bond next week, even if it doesn't quite convince.
I wonder how the Cartier thing would work out, but I guess it would just be a contract swap.
Was this article ever discussed on these forums? The idea of possibly two actors playing Bond in one film - an older one in the current time period and a younger one set in the past?
I must say I did think of the idea of EON not using two actors but going for a single younger actor and then using makeup/ visual trickery to make him look older and younger and have the film set in the present time and past.
Something like how Hugh Jackman and Christian Bale play younger and older versions of their characters in the film The Prestige.
Yeah…ASP9mm said as much before about the Omega watch…and provided pics…now, if I was a cynical person 😏 I could just say you used the info already provided…and I honestly doubt even the CEO of Omega would be informed of the next actor to play Bond before someone in the Eon family…🤔
But please, stick around 🙂
Who said Eon don’t know? It’s possible to pick this apart but I don’t get the logic of that reason.
I agree with N24s last comment.
We'll have our answer after the release of the Gladiator film.
As for Bond 26, I doubt very much that I'll be around to see it so I'm not working myself into a lather.
I just hope it will be worth the wait.
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I'd really like someone here to explain the link between the brands and the identity of the new actor. Personally, I think this link simply does not exist.
Let's suppose I'm the CEO of Omega. What does it change for me to know whether Mescal, ATJ or my concierge's son is going to be the next Bond? A man is a man, a wrist is a wrist, and a watch remains a watch.
Does anyone here seriously believe the product is made specifically with respect to the chosen one's profile? The Seamaster Craig wears in CR has a generic design which is very similar to Brosnan's Seamasters. That's the ultimate proof the actor's identity doesn't really matter. The genuine brand is Bond, whoever gets the gig.
I guess it is a little different for Omega as they tend to sign up the Bond actor as an ambassador outside of and on top of their role as Bond (I think they did that with Brosnan at the time but happy to be corrected), but I agree that it feels like there’s plenty of time to do that once any film production starts rolling.
Craig supposedly had input into his watch for NTTD, but I wouldn’t expect that to be the case every time in future, especially for a new actor.
@emtiem you said it. They have plenty of time and there's no need to have the guy as an ambassador while the set and production design are still off. If I'm not wrong, neither Brosnan nor Craig wore a Seamaster during their announcement.
This may be of interest -
https://www.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/film-and-tv/next-james-bond-odds-here-are-the-13-favourites-to-take-over-from-daniel-craig-including-paul-mescal-4833094
As you said, Mescal is a Cartier ambassador. That isn’t going to change anytime soon if his contract was for three years, which is usually the very minimum. So if he was to become Bond, he would not be allowed to wear an Omega outside of being in that role. Bond would then be the sole ambassador for Omega. Same as Craig wasn’t an Omega ambassador when he first started out as Bond, as he wore Rolex pretty much all of the time in his personal life until after QoS I believe. Craig developed a very unique relationship with Omega during pre production on SF, and so had direct input into the watch designs. A new Bond actor coming along would never have that input. A new Bond watch would be just that. The new actor would have zero influence on the design at this point in any capacity. Be it hands on, or Omega knowing who that was.
As for Brosnan, he only became an Omega ambassador after TWINE. So wasn't signed up immediately.
I’d be surprised if this new watch is connected in any way to the new film. They aren’t going to have a product on the market for a couple of years before the film is released. They’ll want a new watch premiered with the film for maximum marketing and sales hype.
That would be monumentally unprofessional and career/job suicide to be spewing such information in a very public space. It’s a breach of so many NDAs that it would also be very costly when the inevitable cluster of EON lawyers come after them too. So they were either winding people up, or have no regard as to their future.
A quick google says Mescal has been a Cartier ambassador since 2022, so if it was a three year contract then quite possible for him to swap next year, and potentially Omega would want to start the wooing ASAP.
It's all moot of course as the info is a little suspect, but quite fun to imagine.
the idea that a corporate sponsor doing tie-in marketting has so much alleged influence bothers me, makes me even less interested in Bond26 than I already am.
but lets say this watch company is putting plans in place for a series of commercials with the new James Bond before the actors even been announced by EON ... I dont want the first appearance of the new James Bond to be in some product's teevee commercial! it should be within the film, rewarding us after months of anticipation we finally get to see the new guys approach as part of the new story!
we all speculated for month about what CraigBond would be like, then one day the film opened and we watched him break a sink with a man's face, and there he was, our new badass grim'n'gritty Bond! that scene would have been anticlimactic if we'd already seen him on teevee for months beforehand shilling Big Macs or whatever
the same with Dalton and Brosnans first appearance within their respective films: that bit in the precredits where the new guy first reveals his face and aproach is too important to water it down with some teevee commercials spoiling the surprise
anyway @fulhambond maybe you misheard this conversation you overheard in the bar. maybe Mezcal isnt the name of the new actor, but of one of the new corporate sponsors. Bond drinking Mezcal would certainly be an improvement from Heinekin!
@fulhambond
I see you edited out whatever response to me you posted…why was that..? You can always PM me if you wish 🙂
Their post is preserved in Asp’s quote if you want to read it, it’s nothing aggressive or confrontational.
I'd say that’s one of the better JB lists I've seen for some time. Only British men, only actors and with one or two exceptions all are the right age range.
Yeah, I think 5,6,7 and 13 are nonsense, but other than that that’s a pretty sensible list of potentials. I think it’s only really missing Sope Dirisu, Nick Hoult, Josh O’Connor and maybe Leo Suter. I think Mescal is a solid choice but I’ve also got my eye on Pierre.
I'll agree Cillian Murphy and Tom Hardy shouldn't be on the list. They're nearly fifty years old. Norton and Cavill are not nonsense candidates in my opinion.
What if none of these actors was actually considered by EON precisely because they're too much spotlighted ?
It's also interesting to notice Dalton and Craig both come from the National Youth Theatre, whose current president is... Barbara Broccoli.
Perhaps the next Bond is not the one many expect...
I just don’t buy that it will be a complete unknown: this role is too important to risk on someone who hasn’t proven themselves in film roles.
The fact the actor is unknown to the global audience doesn't mean he's not good enough.
A producer is not someone who just invests money and hopes for a 'reasonable rate of return' to quote Le Chiffre. A good producer is a talent scout, and I'm sure there are candidates within the world of theatre who would be wonderful, and I find the concept very seductive.
That's just a personal opinion.
Are you talking about someone with zero screen experience? It’s not going to happen; they don’t do that for any acting role in these films, let alone the lead.
Not necessarily. Someone active on screen but whose main playground is on stage. Someone Broccoli would have spotted and thought: "This is our man."
This is a possibility.
The article is not very interesting but there's one element that might draw one's attention. Page's contract with Longines started in 2021. @Asp9mm you're right, three years seems to be the minimum.
this is interesting. he has a talent and i like him as an actor but i have doubt he will be right to play bond. is it confirmed yet guys? 🤔