I'm sure he won't. And to be honest, I never wanted him to. I'm not keen on his writing and I truly believe there must be other directors who fit with this universe. I don't enjoy NTTD plotwise, but I find Fukunaga's work impressive.
I think a Nolan Bond movie would be good and interesting, even though some of his work can be too clever for it's own good. But it can be argued that Skyfall was Nolan light, a bit like FRWL was Hitchcock light, so we've already had a "Nolan Bond movie".
I wouldn't say Nolan's work is 'too clever'. The stakes are generally easy to understand, but the way he decides to treat them is uselessly convoluted in some movies. Perhaps I'm the only one on Earth to think that, but I find Batman begins brilliant in terms of writing. People often make the parallel with Casino Royale, and I think it's a relevant comparison. Both films are wonderfully written, and they share many common points, especially in terms of character development, tension and investigation.
You're right, the other obvious parallel is The Dark Knight/Skyfall, and that's precisely the one I'm insensitive to regarding the atmosphere and the plot of those movies. I know most people love them, but I definitely don't. Each to his own...
But it can be argued that Skyfall was Nolan light, a bit like FRWL was Hitchcock light, so we've already had a "Nolan Bond movie".
I think that's reasonable. I also think it has more of a sense of fun and heart than Nolan was ever likely to bring to it, and probably better-looking too.
Plus it's also hard to imagine him featuring Dench's M so prominently: I often get the feeling he has a bit of an issue with women. I was watching Batman Begins for the first time in ages recently (really hasn't aged well) and it was striking how Bruce's relationship with his dead parents was in fact only portrayed as his relationship with his dead dad. His mum barely gets shown. Very odd. He barely does female characters. That thought definitely popped in my head when I saw Damon and Holland are in his new one: two blokes again.
In the comics, Thomas Wayne really is the pillar of the family and one of the most influent people in Gotham, if not the most. I just think Nolan and Goyer deliberately focused on that to deal with his legacy. I don't take it as a will to put Bruce's mother away but as a narrative choice to explore the character's trauma.
Concerning Nolan's issues with female characters, perhaps it's true, perhaps not. Anyway it doesn't bother me considering many of his characters are written as archetypes. In the Batman universe, it's even a postulate.
INCEPTION scratched that Bond itch for Nolan. Large portions of that third act feel like him getting Bond out of his system.
I thought he was going to be the guy for at least a trilogy but, after OPPENHEIMER, I'm glad he's apparently out of the running. INTERSTELLAR aside, I simply find him to be too cold and mechanical.
Hated TENET. All gimmick in search of a compelling story. His worst film, in my opinion.
Nolan has many films that I legitimately enjoy, with INTERSTELLAR being an actual masterpiece (in my opinion). I also really like MEMENTO, INSOMNIA, THE PRESTIGE, two of the BATMAN films, and INCEPTION. I liked elements of DUNKIRK as well. Everything else feels like an exercise in craftsmanship at the expense of telling a compelling story. There's zero doubt that he's a great filmmaker, but his more recent output simply does not engage me at all in terms of story or narrative. I'll defend INTERSTELLAR until my dying day but that's it.
Not a fan of Tenet either. It's ok. Watched it at home so probably would have had a higher opinion of it if a saw it at the IMAX.
Gareth Evans is an interesting name to me. I really enjoyed both seasons of Gangs of London and of course The Raid. Evans can really do some incredible action. The gore in Gangs of London was even a bit much for me and he would definitely need to tone that down more than a bit for Bond but his staging, framing, and pace of action scenes are so good I do not see him having any problem adjusting to a PG13 level. Also very important is Evans is a master at hand to hand fight scenes which is a must for Bond.
Re: Nolan. His movies are not funny enough. Way too serious. I mean okay, they may be quirky, there may be moments of light-relief, but they are undeniably serious fare. Bond is light-hearted entertauinment with an edge. Nolan provides the edge with little heart and almost no lightness. Doesn't make him a bad director, just a 'heavy' director and - rather like Mendes turned out - I just think that's wrong all ways for Bond.
Yes, I think so. Drama for sure. APOSTLE (on Netflix) is primarily a horror/drama, and it's really quite excellent.
While primarily known for his action, I find Evans to be pretty highly skilled in terms of narrative flow. The hidden strength of his RAID films is the story itself...while the action is amazing, there's a narrative basis for all of that action to help the audience actually care about what's going on. He's perhaps not as adept at humor but he's able to get in some light character beats to help the audience care about his characters.
Can't wait for HAVOC to hit. That's in post production now.
As mentioned earlier I favour Edgard Wright for Bond26. He's obviously great at humour. He's a big bond fan to the point of having a plot idea ready already. He's British. He also knows how to do action and dram, as shown in Baby Driver, but also Hot Fuzz, Scott Pilgrim, End of the World.
What about Luca Guadagnino? I adore his films and was so excited to hear he was to work with DC on Queer. He'd shoot an amazing espionage films. Image those visuals. Though he isn't an action guy, so imagine he'd need support there. Though he isn't afraid to do genre material. Barbara Broccoli has been attending a number of events for Queer and even hosted a screening in New York, so she and Luca have clearly been in contact even if it is just in respect to Queer. Who knows what came up in conversation.....
The fact BB attended some events involving the guy doesn't necessarily mean these two talked about Bond. If you choose this path, there's also a pic of Nolan and her in a street, and we can clearly see they're discussing...
I think Nolan and her obviously discussed Bond since Craig's departure. He just wants too much control and has his own way of working. There is simply too much of a creative and cultural clash. Meanwhile, someone like Guadagnino fits more easily. He is an auteur who directs scripts written for him. He can work within the machine and can do indie dramas and genre material. It was just a thought....
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This was posted by user alexyeo in a now closed thread yesterday, so I'm adding it here now.
A story on the World of Reel website, which also references this article, claims McQueen: "did recently reveal that his next film would be with Amazon/MGM, who own the Bond rights, and further refused to disclose what the secret project might be."
But I can't find any evidence of this. Anyone?
McQueen's films Shame and 12 Years a Slave were brilliant. He's been a bit hit and miss since, typically where he is the only writer, like Blitz, his latest for AppleTV, which has had mixed reviews, or Widows, where he was involved in the writing.
I would hope, but I know they have their detractors on this site, that Purvis & Wade are central to the reinvention. They wrote Casino, they had to bail out Paul Haggis' QoS and John Logan's Spectre, but too little, too late really and we saw the results of all that.
The World of Reel story also references another recent UK tabloid story by The Mirror newspaper that claims the Bond26 script has problems and that Bond26 won't appear for "more than five years" after NTTD in 2021.
Hopefully this is wrong and we are going to get a McQueen, Bond26 announcement at Christmas with a P&W script, maybe with some input from Jez Butterworth.
McQueen is very much into isdues such as racism, but of he would have to tone that down by a lot of he was hired to direct Bond26. Of course he isn't mentioned in these discussions because of his social consience, but because he's a very good director. However I can imagine MaQueen pushing for a non-white Bond if he was given the job.
Newsflash! The reanimated corpse of Tony Scott will be directing Bond 26. Per sources, the only director that EON and Amazon could agree upon to carry the franchise forward was Ridley Scott. When Ridley passed and told them all to 'F-k off', it was suggested that a zombie Tony might fit the bill. 'We always liked his style and aesthetic', said Barbara Broccoli. Per Jeff Bezos, 'he'll be cheap, only working for fresh brains to eat'.
Additionally, using new technology, Timothy Dalton is to have his skin removed and grafted onto the body of Jacob Elordi in order to maintain, per BB, 'A semblance of physical continuity to the original franchise. Dalton was the closest parallel we had to Craig and we want to capitalize on his renewed popularity.'
AI is planning on being used to create an entirely new score in the style of John Barry for the film. Per EON representatives: 'his estate pushed back but we didn't really care'.
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It's not a Bond film. It's a furiristic movie involving Matt Damon and apparently Tom Holland.
If that's correct (and I guess it is) I think this mean Nolan won’t direct Bond26.
I'm sure he won't. And to be honest, I never wanted him to. I'm not keen on his writing and I truly believe there must be other directors who fit with this universe. I don't enjoy NTTD plotwise, but I find Fukunaga's work impressive.
I think a Nolan Bond movie would be good and interesting, even though some of his work can be too clever for it's own good. But it can be argued that Skyfall was Nolan light, a bit like FRWL was Hitchcock light, so we've already had a "Nolan Bond movie".
I agree on what you say about Fukunaga and NTTD.
I wouldn't say Nolan's work is 'too clever'. The stakes are generally easy to understand, but the way he decides to treat them is uselessly convoluted in some movies. Perhaps I'm the only one on Earth to think that, but I find Batman begins brilliant in terms of writing. People often make the parallel with Casino Royale, and I think it's a relevant comparison. Both films are wonderfully written, and they share many common points, especially in terms of character development, tension and investigation.
You're right, the other obvious parallel is The Dark Knight/Skyfall, and that's precisely the one I'm insensitive to regarding the atmosphere and the plot of those movies. I know most people love them, but I definitely don't. Each to his own...
But it can be argued that Skyfall was Nolan light, a bit like FRWL was Hitchcock light, so we've already had a "Nolan Bond movie".
I think that's reasonable. I also think it has more of a sense of fun and heart than Nolan was ever likely to bring to it, and probably better-looking too.
Plus it's also hard to imagine him featuring Dench's M so prominently: I often get the feeling he has a bit of an issue with women. I was watching Batman Begins for the first time in ages recently (really hasn't aged well) and it was striking how Bruce's relationship with his dead parents was in fact only portrayed as his relationship with his dead dad. His mum barely gets shown. Very odd. He barely does female characters. That thought definitely popped in my head when I saw Damon and Holland are in his new one: two blokes again.
Good points, but I have to say all the Nolan movies look great to me.
In the comics, Thomas Wayne really is the pillar of the family and one of the most influent people in Gotham, if not the most. I just think Nolan and Goyer deliberately focused on that to deal with his legacy. I don't take it as a will to put Bruce's mother away but as a narrative choice to explore the character's trauma.
Concerning Nolan's issues with female characters, perhaps it's true, perhaps not. Anyway it doesn't bother me considering many of his characters are written as archetypes. In the Batman universe, it's even a postulate.
INCEPTION scratched that Bond itch for Nolan. Large portions of that third act feel like him getting Bond out of his system.
I thought he was going to be the guy for at least a trilogy but, after OPPENHEIMER, I'm glad he's apparently out of the running. INTERSTELLAR aside, I simply find him to be too cold and mechanical.
Tenet was very Bond in places too though- especially in having just a straight up Bond villain. But y'know, all about time, just for a change 😉
Agree he's too cold; I don't want a Bond film that feels like one of his.
Hated TENET. All gimmick in search of a compelling story. His worst film, in my opinion.
Nolan has many films that I legitimately enjoy, with INTERSTELLAR being an actual masterpiece (in my opinion). I also really like MEMENTO, INSOMNIA, THE PRESTIGE, two of the BATMAN films, and INCEPTION. I liked elements of DUNKIRK as well. Everything else feels like an exercise in craftsmanship at the expense of telling a compelling story. There's zero doubt that he's a great filmmaker, but his more recent output simply does not engage me at all in terms of story or narrative. I'll defend INTERSTELLAR until my dying day but that's it.
I agree that Tenet his weakest film.
Not a fan of Tenet either. It's ok. Watched it at home so probably would have had a higher opinion of it if a saw it at the IMAX.
Gareth Evans is an interesting name to me. I really enjoyed both seasons of Gangs of London and of course The Raid. Evans can really do some incredible action. The gore in Gangs of London was even a bit much for me and he would definitely need to tone that down more than a bit for Bond but his staging, framing, and pace of action scenes are so good I do not see him having any problem adjusting to a PG13 level. Also very important is Evans is a master at hand to hand fight scenes which is a must for Bond.
Gareth Evans is absolutely my choice.
But can he do drama and humor?
Re: Nolan. His movies are not funny enough. Way too serious. I mean okay, they may be quirky, there may be moments of light-relief, but they are undeniably serious fare. Bond is light-hearted entertauinment with an edge. Nolan provides the edge with little heart and almost no lightness. Doesn't make him a bad director, just a 'heavy' director and - rather like Mendes turned out - I just think that's wrong all ways for Bond.
Yes, I think so. Drama for sure. APOSTLE (on Netflix) is primarily a horror/drama, and it's really quite excellent.
While primarily known for his action, I find Evans to be pretty highly skilled in terms of narrative flow. The hidden strength of his RAID films is the story itself...while the action is amazing, there's a narrative basis for all of that action to help the audience actually care about what's going on. He's perhaps not as adept at humor but he's able to get in some light character beats to help the audience care about his characters.
Can't wait for HAVOC to hit. That's in post production now.
Oh I think Mendes was entirely right for Bond in the way that Nolan isn't.
Mendes is definitely a more balanced director in terms of technical skill and tonal control.
As mentioned earlier I favour Edgard Wright for Bond26. He's obviously great at humour. He's a big bond fan to the point of having a plot idea ready already. He's British. He also knows how to do action and dram, as shown in Baby Driver, but also Hot Fuzz, Scott Pilgrim, End of the World.
These are his favourite Bond movies:
What about Luca Guadagnino? I adore his films and was so excited to hear he was to work with DC on Queer. He'd shoot an amazing espionage films. Image those visuals. Though he isn't an action guy, so imagine he'd need support there. Though he isn't afraid to do genre material. Barbara Broccoli has been attending a number of events for Queer and even hosted a screening in New York, so she and Luca have clearly been in contact even if it is just in respect to Queer. Who knows what came up in conversation.....
The fact BB attended some events involving the guy doesn't necessarily mean these two talked about Bond. If you choose this path, there's also a pic of Nolan and her in a street, and we can clearly see they're discussing...
I think Nolan and her obviously discussed Bond since Craig's departure. He just wants too much control and has his own way of working. There is simply too much of a creative and cultural clash. Meanwhile, someone like Guadagnino fits more easily. He is an auteur who directs scripts written for him. He can work within the machine and can do indie dramas and genre material. It was just a thought....
Nolan would be one hell of a way to reintroduce Bond though…Amazon probably would be happy too…but you’d have to see what his schedule is for 2026/7 👀
Maybe the tabloids are just reading this forum, but The Sun now claims Steve McQueen is being 'eyed' for Bond26 directorship.
This was posted by user alexyeo in a now closed thread yesterday, so I'm adding it here now.
A story on the World of Reel website, which also references this article, claims McQueen: "did recently reveal that his next film would be with Amazon/MGM, who own the Bond rights, and further refused to disclose what the secret project might be."
But I can't find any evidence of this. Anyone?
McQueen's films Shame and 12 Years a Slave were brilliant. He's been a bit hit and miss since, typically where he is the only writer, like Blitz, his latest for AppleTV, which has had mixed reviews, or Widows, where he was involved in the writing.
I would hope, but I know they have their detractors on this site, that Purvis & Wade are central to the reinvention. They wrote Casino, they had to bail out Paul Haggis' QoS and John Logan's Spectre, but too little, too late really and we saw the results of all that.
The World of Reel story also references another recent UK tabloid story by The Mirror newspaper that claims the Bond26 script has problems and that Bond26 won't appear for "more than five years" after NTTD in 2021.
Hopefully this is wrong and we are going to get a McQueen, Bond26 announcement at Christmas with a P&W script, maybe with some input from Jez Butterworth.
McQueen's got a new film out now, take any Bond rumour about anyone who has someone whose team wants some column inches with a pinch of salt.
That said I'd be very excited if he was in the frame.
Given that is the same article alexyeo posted a link to, I'm not sure why you think The Sun would have got it from this forum.
McQueen is very much into isdues such as racism, but of he would have to tone that down by a lot of he was hired to direct Bond26. Of course he isn't mentioned in these discussions because of his social consience, but because he's a very good director. However I can imagine MaQueen pushing for a non-white Bond if he was given the job.
Newsflash! The reanimated corpse of Tony Scott will be directing Bond 26. Per sources, the only director that EON and Amazon could agree upon to carry the franchise forward was Ridley Scott. When Ridley passed and told them all to 'F-k off', it was suggested that a zombie Tony might fit the bill. 'We always liked his style and aesthetic', said Barbara Broccoli. Per Jeff Bezos, 'he'll be cheap, only working for fresh brains to eat'.
Additionally, using new technology, Timothy Dalton is to have his skin removed and grafted onto the body of Jacob Elordi in order to maintain, per BB, 'A semblance of physical continuity to the original franchise. Dalton was the closest parallel we had to Craig and we want to capitalize on his renewed popularity.'
AI is planning on being used to create an entirely new score in the style of John Barry for the film. Per EON representatives: 'his estate pushed back but we didn't really care'.
Finally some belivable news about Bond26!