They're the ones I remember buying as a kid .... Getting in to Bond
Yes, you remember the first ones you buy the best of all. My first (back in August 1995) were the 1960s Pans and I like them the best of all the paperback editions of the Bond novels. Probably no coincidence as they were my first Bond novels. I actually think I only have one of the 'girls on guns' Panther covers - TMWTGG. They do seem to be hard to find in secondhand bookshops these days. I wonder why...?
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
It could be clearer that this is a James Bond thriller
good point eh? the words James Bond are the tiniest text on the cover. Usually they'd be the biggest.
I didn’t even notice the “007” or “James Bond” until you mentioned it...the white, tiny text on the lightest/whitest part of the ocean picture is a terrible idea
It could be clearer that this is a James Bond thriller
good point eh? the words James Bond are the tiniest text on the cover. Usually they'd be the biggest.
I didn’t even notice the “007” or “James Bond” until you mentioned it...the white, tiny text on the lightest/whitest part of the ocean picture is a terrible idea
They could line up...
ANTH O NY
HOR O WITZ 7
and get ze propur effuct.
I'm sure the Point of Sale displays will have
Lots of James Bond 007 detailing. With a bit
Of " New international Best seller "
On the Title "Forever and a day " it is used by
Shakespeare in two of his plays. So if it's good
Enough for the bard ....... possibly Horowitz has
Been reading Barbel's Shakespearean thread
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
And seems as though people have gotten used to the title more quickly than they did with Trigger Mortis, although not me. I guess it might be some English saying, although taken at my face value, it's as childish as "Infinity Plus One".
They're the ones I remember buying as a kid .... Getting in to Bond
Yes, you remember the first ones you buy the best of all. My first (back in August 1995) were the 1960s Pans and I like them the best of all the paperback editions of the Bond novels. Probably no coincidence as they were my first Bond novels. I actually think I only have one of the 'girls on guns' Panther covers - TMWTGG. They do seem to be hard to find in secondhand bookshops these days. I wonder why...?
I've been buying secondhand bond paperbacks for the covers in the last couple of years.
I now have 11 of 15 of Girls On Guns (includes Colonel Sun that I don't have) but recently got The Spy Who Loved Me (1980)
has a woman with a pink hat. I print the Piz Gloria.com pages as a tick list of what I find.
I actually think I only have one of the 'girls on guns' Panther covers - TMWTGG. They do seem to be hard to find in secondhand bookshops these days. I wonder why...?
I think all the various editions after the classic 60s PANs and Signets are hard to find ... hardly ever see the "messy desk" editions either and those were the ones in print when I started collecting.
I think the print-runs for those mid-60s editions were astronomical, printed at the heights of cinematic Bond-mania, that's why they are still the most common ones that turn up used to day, along with various film tie-in covers. Later versions, like messy desks or girls on guns, may have had relatively smaller print runs. And (a theory) of those that have survived in sale-able condition, many may already be locked up in the collections of completists. Whereas there are more than enough of those mid-60s editions to keeping stocking used bookstore shelves half a century later.
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I actually think I only have one of the 'girls on guns' Panther covers - TMWTGG. They do seem to be hard to find in secondhand bookshops these days. I wonder why...?
I think all the various editions after the classic 60s PANs and Signets are hard to find ... hardly ever see the "messy desk" editions either and those were the ones in print when I started collecting.
I think the print-runs for those mid-60s editions were astronomical, printed at the heights of cinematic Bond-mania, that's why they are still the most common ones that turn up used to day, along with various film tie-in covers. Later versions, like messy desks or girls on guns, may have had relatively smaller print runs. And (a theory) of those that have survived in sale-able condition, many may already be locked up in the collections of completists. Whereas there are more than enough of those mid-60s editions to keeping stocking used bookstore shelves half a century later.
That is exactly what I was thinking, so no need for me to type that out (no doubt less eloquently!). I think you've hit the nail on the head there. I concur on all points. Well said. -{
P.S. I believe the "messy desk" Pan 1970s editions are referred to as the "still life" covers, but your name for them is just as good! I have a few of these, but again, nowhere near a full set sadly.
"The tough man of the world. The Secret Agent. The man who was only a silhouette." - Ian Fleming, Moonraker (1955).
yes I know they are properly named "still life" editions
but they look more like messy desks than still life's to me!
of course for the sake of communication I should probably be using the agreed upon terminology
when I was a lad these still life/messy desk editions were also the ones most likely to be found used, probably because they were what was then in print and most likely to get re-sold once read. Finding a mid60s PAN at that point felt almost as exciting as finding a genuine Silver Age comic book. So its funny how those 70s editions have now almost completely disappeared yet the 60s editions remain common.
yes I know they are properly named "still life" editions
but they look more like messy desks than still life's to me!
of course for the sake of communication I should probably be using the agreed upon terminology
when I was a lad these still life/messy desk editions were also the ones most likely to be found used, probably because they were what was then in print and most likely to get re-sold once read. Finding a mid60s PAN at that point felt almost as exciting as finding a genuine Silver Age comic book. So its funny how those 70s editions have now almost completely disappeared yet the 60s editions remain common.
Yes it availability is down to large print runs. But where can I find a good secondhand (paperback) bookshop in southern england or the South west of UK. With stuff being on internet or e-Bay the shops are becoming less available.
Any locations you know of ?
I'm in a different continent so no help to you specifically, sorry.
In general, I now find university towns are more likely to have good used book stores than big cities.
The rents are too high in big cities for used book stores anymore. In Toronto, the city taxes storefronts in the downtown core at the same rate they do for the 80 story condo tower next door, so landlords pass the tax on to the tenants as increased rent, and marginal enterprises like used book stores go out of business. Once storefronts are vacant, landlord sells to developers and new condo tower goes up. Soon there will be millions of people in those condos, with no civilization left at ground level. I might guess it's the same in London, UK.
University towns are more likely to be otherwise economically challenged (loss of industry), thus lots of cheap storefronts available. Still, even in such towns used bookstores are going out of business because people would rather buy online.
For folks who are around Toronto, this event is coming up in May http://www.girasolcollectables.com/fantastic-pulps-show.html
the Fantastic Pulps and Paperbacks Show, Saturday May 12, 2018, Toronto Public Library, 239 College Street
its a small event, maybe two dozen tables, but I guarantee you will find lots of vintage Bond paperbacks and lots of other cool pulpy stuff.
i want to pre-order the book now but it is listed as being released on November 6. Is this the US release date so if i want it within 6 months I will have to pay extra $10 to have it flown over here? That would be bullshit as I dont recall having to do that with Solo or Trigger Mortis.
I don't care about money, i want my book at my door on May 31st. Their idea of pre-order seems to be, i can order it now, but they won't ship it until the release date. If that's the case then what is the bloody point of the pre-order.
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Pre-order is exactly that. Paying for it before it’s released. It guarantees your item if in some circumstances it sells out quickly. With a book this is unlikely though, but it can work for other items.
do we know if there is going to be a special edition of this new one that includes Fleming's original notes as bonus material?
and if so how to recognise it versus the regular edition?
i want to pre-order the book now but it is listed as being released on November 6. Is this the US release date so if i want it within 6 months I will have to pay extra $10 to have it flown over here? That would be bullshit as I dont recall having to do that with Solo or Trigger Mortis.
Nov 6 is the US release date, but the current price to buy/ship from Amazon UK is $24.69 vs. Amazon US $26.99 not including shipping, so I’m not sure why you’re saying there’s an extra $10. And yes, you had to do that with Solo and Trigger Morris.
I don't care about money, i want my book at my door on May 31st. Their idea of pre-order seems to be, i can order it now, but they won't ship it until the release date. If that's the case then what is the bloody point of the pre-order.
The bloody point of the pre-order is the price guarantee. You will always get the cheapest price between the time you pre-order and release date. If you order on release date you will have to pay that price, which is not always the cheapest...
The $10 is for air travel. I see it selling for 11.39 pounds which is $15. The shipping for me is 6.98 pounds which is $10 so it totals $25.88
Right but what I’m saying is if it’s $26.99 at the US Amazon, without even including shipping, you’re not spending an extra $10 compared to ordering it domestically, you’re saving $1.11...
He has a very good voice for reading Bond. Good range and tone. Quite similar to Dan Stevens. I'll probably get the audiobook, rather than the actual hardback. I've got credits at Audible.
It is amazing how important a good voice is to an audio book. I've recently
finished Col Sun, can't remember the actor reading it but ....... it's not good.
When compared to the wonderful David Rintoul books.
"I've been informed that there ARE a couple of QAnon supporters who are fairly regular posters in AJB."
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Yes, you remember the first ones you buy the best of all. My first (back in August 1995) were the 1960s Pans and I like them the best of all the paperback editions of the Bond novels. Probably no coincidence as they were my first Bond novels. I actually think I only have one of the 'girls on guns' Panther covers - TMWTGG. They do seem to be hard to find in secondhand bookshops these days. I wonder why...?
Die Another Day had a Beretta 92FS, though it wasn't anachronistic.
This one is, which is distracting.
I didn’t even notice the “007” or “James Bond” until you mentioned it...the white, tiny text on the lightest/whitest part of the ocean picture is a terrible idea
ANTH O NY
HOR O WITZ
7
and get ze propur effuct.
Lots of James Bond 007 detailing. With a bit
Of " New international Best seller "
On the Title "Forever and a day " it is used by
Shakespeare in two of his plays. So if it's good
Enough for the bard ....... possibly Horowitz has
Been reading Barbel's Shakespearean thread
https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/en-ca/books/trigger-mortis/9780999752685-item.html?ikwid=Trigger+Mortis&ikwsec=Home&ikwidx=0
And seems as though people have gotten used to the title more quickly than they did with Trigger Mortis, although not me. I guess it might be some English saying, although taken at my face value, it's as childish as "Infinity Plus One".
I've been buying secondhand bond paperbacks for the covers in the last couple of years.
I now have 11 of 15 of Girls On Guns (includes Colonel Sun that I don't have) but recently got The Spy Who Loved Me (1980)
has a woman with a pink hat. I print the Piz Gloria.com pages as a tick list of what I find.
cheers Bleuville.
I think the print-runs for those mid-60s editions were astronomical, printed at the heights of cinematic Bond-mania, that's why they are still the most common ones that turn up used to day, along with various film tie-in covers. Later versions, like messy desks or girls on guns, may have had relatively smaller print runs. And (a theory) of those that have survived in sale-able condition, many may already be locked up in the collections of completists. Whereas there are more than enough of those mid-60s editions to keeping stocking used bookstore shelves half a century later.
That is exactly what I was thinking, so no need for me to type that out (no doubt less eloquently!). I think you've hit the nail on the head there. I concur on all points. Well said.
P.S. I believe the "messy desk" Pan 1970s editions are referred to as the "still life" covers, but your name for them is just as good!
but they look more like messy desks than still life's to me!
of course for the sake of communication I should probably be using the agreed upon terminology
when I was a lad these still life/messy desk editions were also the ones most likely to be found used, probably because they were what was then in print and most likely to get re-sold once read. Finding a mid60s PAN at that point felt almost as exciting as finding a genuine Silver Age comic book. So its funny how those 70s editions have now almost completely disappeared yet the 60s editions remain common.
Yes it availability is down to large print runs. But where can I find a good secondhand (paperback) bookshop in southern england or the South west of UK. With stuff being on internet or e-Bay the shops are becoming less available.
Any locations you know of ?
Bleuville.
In general, I now find university towns are more likely to have good used book stores than big cities.
The rents are too high in big cities for used book stores anymore. In Toronto, the city taxes storefronts in the downtown core at the same rate they do for the 80 story condo tower next door, so landlords pass the tax on to the tenants as increased rent, and marginal enterprises like used book stores go out of business. Once storefronts are vacant, landlord sells to developers and new condo tower goes up. Soon there will be millions of people in those condos, with no civilization left at ground level. I might guess it's the same in London, UK.
University towns are more likely to be otherwise economically challenged (loss of industry), thus lots of cheap storefronts available. Still, even in such towns used bookstores are going out of business because people would rather buy online.
For folks who are around Toronto, this event is coming up in May
http://www.girasolcollectables.com/fantastic-pulps-show.html
the Fantastic Pulps and Paperbacks Show, Saturday May 12, 2018, Toronto Public Library, 239 College Street
its a small event, maybe two dozen tables, but I guarantee you will find lots of vintage Bond paperbacks and lots of other cool pulpy stuff.
"Join Anthony Horowitz in conversation as he discusses his new 007 novel and the explosive prequel to Casino Royale, Forever and a Day."
https://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/whats-on/129054-anthony-horowitz-james-bond-2018
Twitter: @mybudgetbond1
https://www.waterstones.com/book/forever-and-a-day/anthony-horowitz/9781785174438?utm_source=WSSpecialsR120418&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=warmup
and if so how to recognise it versus the regular edition?
http://www.ianfleming.com/forever-day-audio-narrator-announcement/
Twitter: @mybudgetbond1
Nov 6 is the US release date, but the current price to buy/ship from Amazon UK is $24.69 vs. Amazon US $26.99 not including shipping, so I’m not sure why you’re saying there’s an extra $10. And yes, you had to do that with Solo and Trigger Morris.
The bloody point of the pre-order is the price guarantee. You will always get the cheapest price between the time you pre-order and release date. If you order on release date you will have to pay that price, which is not always the cheapest...
Right but what I’m saying is if it’s $26.99 at the US Amazon, without even including shipping, you’re not spending an extra $10 compared to ordering it domestically, you’re saving $1.11...
He has a very good voice for reading Bond. Good range and tone. Quite similar to Dan Stevens. I'll probably get the audiobook, rather than the actual hardback. I've got credits at Audible.
"I didn't realise Jacob Rees-Mogg was in this film"
finished Col Sun, can't remember the actor reading it but ....... it's not good.
When compared to the wonderful David Rintoul books.